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Scouting Seton Hall

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Can't wait to watch in person!

Schedule (10-3)
  • 29th toughest schedule
  • Best OOC wins over Texas, Michigan, California, Rutgers, Wagner and Yale (all top 150 teams)
  • OOC losses
    • 11/22 76-79 to Ohio State. Ohio State was 11-22 from deep while Seton Hall was 5-23. EJ Liddell had a heck of a game
    • 12/29 65-70 to Providence. Providence had five scorers in double digits led by Noah Horchler. Seton Hall was 4-19 from deep.
    • 1/1 67-73 to Villanova. Hall shot well from deep (7-19), but only 40% from two. Starting lineup only had 33 points total. 21 from Gillespie.
Roster Report
  • 29th tallest team in the NCAA
  • Their small lineup has Aiken and Harris in the backcourt with Rhoden and Yetna at the 4 & 5
  • Their big lineup includes Richmond at the point, Cale/Rhoden at wings and take your pick with any of their F/Bigs. 6’6, 6’6, 6’6, 6’8-6’10, 6’10-7’2
  • Last I checked, Tyrese Samuel is a GTD. He hasn’t played since 12/12 (for reasons unknown).

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Offense: 40th in KenPom efficiency
  • Rhoden is their leading scorer (16.4p), but only about a ½ of shots from deep and leads team in FTAs.
  • Aiken averages 12.2. About half shots from deep and 2nd in team in FTAs.
  • Next six scorers average between 6.9 ppg (Richmond) and 10.8 ppg (Samuel)
  • Obiagu is their only rotation player who does not average a 3pa/game.
  • They play fast (33rd in offensive tempo)
  • They don’t turn the ball over (21st lowest turnover %)
  • They get to the line well (61st FTA/FGA ratio)
  • They are 227th in fg% including an ugly 29.8 from deep (302th in nation)
  • Just an OK offensive rebounding team (140th in offensive rebound %)
Defense: 22nd in KenPom efficiency
  • Four defenders average 1.5+ steals/game (Rhoden, Aiken, RIchmond, Cale)
  • Obiagu is an elite rim protector (2.6 blocks/game) while Samuel is good (1.2 blocks/game), if he plays.
  • Elite perimeter D (7th in nation in opponents 3p% at 25.9%). Opponents only shoot 31.9% of their shots from three, which is the 31st lowest rate nationally.
  • Excellent defensive rebounding (28th defensive rebounding rate)
  • They don’t cause a lot of turnovers (174th in turnover rate). If they do cause turnovers, its from blocks and steals. Their non-steal TO% is just 281st in the nation.
  • When they get teams to the line, they tend to foul the good shooters (78.9 opponents’ ft%).
 
Aiken and Yetna are their key guys even though neither are their leading scorers. Aiken has a bit of Shabazz in his game, but he can go on long cold streaks. I think we’re one of the lengthier teams on defense they will face all year so hopefully our length bothers them.
 
No way around it - this is going to be a tough game. It would be one of the more difficult games on our schedule this year even if we weren't coming off a COVID pause with a potentially limited roster.

A win here would be huge. Last year's win @Seton Hall was probably our most important win of the year, save maybe that USC game. Nice that our guys have recent experience playing in this building too. Should be a decent contigent of UConn fans there too.
 
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bendm said:
do we have any idea who's available?
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I haven't seen anything, outside of reporting that Sanogo is dealing with a hamstring issue (as well as getting over the abdominal strain). Cole and Martin both spoke to the media in person, so they should be good.

Hopefully the full team is good to go. Expecting that Hurley will keep it a secret until before tip either way, per usual.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Can't wait to watch in person!

Schedule (10-3)
  • 29th toughest schedule
  • Best OOC wins over Texas, Michigan, California, Rutgers, Wagner and Yale (all top 150 teams)
  • OOC losses
    • 11/22 76-79 to Ohio State. Ohio State was 11-22 from deep while Seton Hall was 5-23. EJ Liddell had a heck of a game
    • 12/29 65-70 to Providence. Providence had five scorers in double digits led by Noah Horchler. Seton Hall was 4-19 from deep.
    • 1/1 67-73 to Villanova. Hall shot well from deep (7-19), but only 40% from two. Starting lineup only had 33 points total. 21 from Gillespie.
Roster Report
  • 29th tallest team in the NCAA
  • Their small lineup has Aiken and Harris in the backcourt with Rhoden and Yetna at the 4 & 5
  • Their big lineup includes Richmond at the point, Cale/Rhoden at wings and take your pick with any of their F/Bigs. 6’6, 6’6, 6’6, 6’8-6’10, 6’10-7’2
  • Last I checked, Tyrese Samuel is a GTD. He hasn’t played since 12/12 (for reasons unknown).

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Offense: 40th in KenPom efficiency
  • Rhoden is their leading scorer (16.4p), but only about a ½ of shots from deep and leads team in FTAs.
  • Aiken averages 12.2. About half shots from deep and 2nd in team in FTAs.
  • Next six scorers average between 6.9 ppg (Richmond) and 10.8 ppg (Samuel)
  • Obiagu is their only rotation player who does not average a 3pa/game.
  • They play fast (33rd in offensive tempo)
  • They don’t turn the ball over (21st lowest turnover %)
  • They get to the line well (61st FTA/FGA ratio)
  • They are 227th in fg% including an ugly 29.8 from deep (302th in nation)
  • Just an OK offensive rebounding team (140th in offensive rebound %)
Defense: 22nd in KenPom efficiency
  • Four defenders average 1.5+ steals/game (Rhoden, Aiken, RIchmond, Cale)
  • Obiagu is an elite rim protector (2.6 blocks/game) while Samuel is good (1.2 blocks/game), if he plays.
  • Elite perimeter D (7th in nation in opponents 3p% at 25.9%). Opponents only shoot 31.9% of their shots from three, which is the 31st lowest rate nationally.
  • Excellent defensive rebounding (28th defensive rebounding rate)
  • They don’t cause a lot of turnovers (174th in turnover rate). If they do cause turnovers, its from blocks and steals. Their non-steal TO% is just 281st in the nation.
  • When they get teams to the line, they tend to foul the good shooters (78.9 opponents’ ft%).
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I always like reading your scouting reports. So far this year I have watched Seton Hall a lot and this scouting report jives with what I have seen.
Where do you get this report and/or get these advanced stats? Is it all from KenPom? Is it free or do you have paid membership or something?
I know those are a lot of questions.
 
Looking forward to this. Need to make a decision. I get on a flight at 12:10 tomorrow. Game should be available in flight. Or I can wait and DVR it.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Looking forward to this. Need to make a decision. I get on a flight at 12:10 tomorrow. Game should be available in flight. Or I can wait and DVR it.
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Your flight likely will be delayed so you can catch the first half.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Looking forward to this. Need to make a decision. I get on a flight at 12:10 tomorrow. Game should be available in flight. Or I can wait and DVR it.
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hopefully they have tvs in the seat-backs w/ live tv otherwise the wifi isnt fast enough to stream games on your devices, at least in my experience
 
CTBasketball said:
Your flight likely will be delayed so you can catch the first half.
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I can’t watch it in the airport, so hopefully no delay.
bendm said:
hopefully they have tvs in the seat-backs w/ live tv otherwise the wifi isnt fast enough to stream games on your devices, at least in my experience
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That’s the concern. No seat back but they do say they have live TV. I think it’s the LA or NY Fox station. Will test it at least. Not using their Wi-Fi.
 
Crazy to think that we'll play at the Prudential Center twice in four games.

As Dan Hurley says, "I'm from here,"

 
Hurleyman216 said:
Aiken and Yetna are their key guys even though neither are their leading scorers. Aiken has a bit of Shabazz in his game, but he can go on long cold streaks. I think we’re one of the lengthier teams on defense they will face all year so hopefully our length bothers them.
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Have to force them to be a pull up jump shooting team. They like to get to the line and they make them when they get there. Have to play solid D. Rhoden is aggressive and Aiken is crafty.
 
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Hey Adrien! said:
Can't wait to watch in person!

Schedule (10-3)
  • 29th toughest schedule
  • Best OOC wins over Texas, Michigan, California, Rutgers, Wagner and Yale (all top 150 teams)
  • OOC losses
    • 11/22 76-79 to Ohio State. Ohio State was 11-22 from deep while Seton Hall was 5-23. EJ Liddell had a heck of a game
    • 12/29 65-70 to Providence. Providence had five scorers in double digits led by Noah Horchler. Seton Hall was 4-19 from deep.
    • 1/1 67-73 to Villanova. Hall shot well from deep (7-19), but only 40% from two. Starting lineup only had 33 points total. 21 from Gillespie.
Roster Report
  • 29th tallest team in the NCAA
  • Their small lineup has Aiken and Harris in the backcourt with Rhoden and Yetna at the 4 & 5
  • Their big lineup includes Richmond at the point, Cale/Rhoden at wings and take your pick with any of their F/Bigs. 6’6, 6’6, 6’6, 6’8-6’10, 6’10-7’2
  • Last I checked, Tyrese Samuel is a GTD. He hasn’t played since 12/12 (for reasons unknown).

View attachment 72306

Offense: 40th in KenPom efficiency
  • Rhoden is their leading scorer (16.4p), but only about a ½ of shots from deep and leads team in FTAs.
  • Aiken averages 12.2. About half shots from deep and 2nd in team in FTAs.
  • Next six scorers average between 6.9 ppg (Richmond) and 10.8 ppg (Samuel)
  • Obiagu is their only rotation player who does not average a 3pa/game.
  • They play fast (33rd in offensive tempo)
  • They don’t turn the ball over (21st lowest turnover %)
  • They get to the line well (61st FTA/FGA ratio)
  • They are 227th in fg% including an ugly 29.8 from deep (302th in nation)
  • Just an OK offensive rebounding team (140th in offensive rebound %)
Defense: 22nd in KenPom efficiency
  • Four defenders average 1.5+ steals/game (Rhoden, Aiken, RIchmond, Cale)
  • Obiagu is an elite rim protector (2.6 blocks/game) while Samuel is good (1.2 blocks/game), if he plays.
  • Elite perimeter D (7th in nation in opponents 3p% at 25.9%). Opponents only shoot 31.9% of their shots from three, which is the 31st lowest rate nationally.
  • Excellent defensive rebounding (28th defensive rebounding rate)
  • They don’t cause a lot of turnovers (174th in turnover rate). If they do cause turnovers, its from blocks and steals. Their non-steal TO% is just 281st in the nation.
  • When they get teams to the line, they tend to foul the good shooters (78.9 opponents’ ft%).
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With a breakdown like this, you need to give a prediction summary ! Good job
 
Dabutlerdidit said:
With a breakdown like this, you need to give a prediction summary ! Good job
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Haha, thanks.

I'm having a hard read on this game, simply because of the balanced roster makeup of Seton Hall.

They have a legit nine-man rotation and a nearly democratic approach to playing time as eight of their nine players average between 17-26 minutes.

They're big, but we also have the size to match. I like the Martin/Rhoden matchup while we have the bigs to match up to Hall's quartet of bigs. Cole matches up nicely w/ Aiken. The X-factor is Jackson at the 2. When he's on the court, his switchability allows him to help out defending wings like Rhoden and Richmond but he's athletic enough to stick with a perimeter shooter like Harris when Seton Hall goes small.

Like many on here think, the Covid pause has got me tentative to the point of just wanting a hard fought game.

My prediction? We win the game if:
  • We shoot better from three than they do (not a huge ask)
  • Sanogo plays 100% of the time when Obiagu is off the court (IO has never played more than 28 minutes/game) and when that occurs, pound the ball inside.
  • We have more points off turnovers than they do (also, not a huge ask)
  • We have a positive rebound margin (a harder ask)
 
With Cale likely on RJ.. Got to have help from our other guards/wings. Could see AJ being the X factor today with a big game--Esp if AS can't give us a lot of minutes.
 
Tough team and will be extremely hard to win with long layoff and concerns about Adama and other covid issues but the grind starts again after the pause and hoping all players are ready for this reboot. Hall was also down a couple of key players when they lost to PC.
 
Need either Hawkins or Polley to shoot lights out. Need that unforeseen X factor to win today.
 
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So, Martin looks like a good matchup for Rhoden. Put AJax on Richmond and Cole on Aiken. Yetna will be a challenge when he's at the 4 if Sanogo isn't on the floor.
 
gsmooth said:
I always like reading your scouting reports. So far this year I have watched Seton Hall a lot and this scouting report jives with what I have seen.
Where do you get this report and/or get these advanced stats? Is it all from KenPom? Is it free or do you have paid membership or something?
I know those are a lot of questions.
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'Where do you get this report and/or get these advanced stats?'

ummm, from his brain?
sumtimes, i wonder iffn folks here get it that they're reading ball analysis from an observer who is as astute, insightful, and unbiased, as any other in the land, paid or otherwise.
 
With the hammy I don't see how Adama will be able to go all out. We are going to need some hot wings to give us a boost.
 
This team at times not far from Nova will back people down often and in order to play good solid defense people need to stay on the ground. That worries me too many guys who need to block shots, will even be worst against nova. But today please stay on the ground, hands up and stay in defensive rebounding position. We win the boards we have a chance.
 
auror said:
Have to force them to be a pull up jump shooting team. They like to get to the line and they make them when they get there. Have to play solid D. Rhoden is aggressive and Aiken is crafty.
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Aiken is 25 years old…will be interesting to see if our guards can keep him under 20 pts. He can wreck havoc IMHO
 
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