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Sarah Strong is competing at the FIBA 3x3 World Championships next week in Mongolia

Mongolia deserved to win. They made?? 6 two pointers.??
Morgan Maly with a number of turnovers. Sahara Williams
with an offensive foul and a delay of game penalty. Mikaylah
Williams with a technical foul and (poorly) trying to do it all
herself. THEY DID NOT GET THE BALL TO SARAH UNDERNEATH!
Sarah with multiple rebounds, a blocked shot, and solid scoring.
Mongolia also hit the CLUTCH FREE THROWS. I have yet to check
the official stats.
 
OFFICIAL FIBA STATS: USA vs Mongolia Mongolia 18 USA 15
Sahara Williams: 3 points 3 reb Player Value 2.0 3/6 on one pointers 0/0 2 pointers.
M. Williams: 5 points 3 reb Player Value 8.6 3/9 one pointers 1/3 2 pointers.
Morgan Maly: 2 points 2reb Player Value MINUS 0.50! 2/2 on ones, 0/2 on 2s.
Sarah 5 points 11 reb Player Value 10.3 3/6 one pointers, 1/3 on 2s.
Mongolia hit 3/8 one pointers, 6/24 two pointers. USA with 8 turnovers,
Mongolia with 4 turnovers USA 24 rebounds Mongolia 15 rebounds and
Mongolia was 3/3 on their free throws. USA DID NOT GO TO THE
CHARITY STRIPE!! 0/0!!!
I think the FIBA PLAYER VALUE ratings tell the story and the Mikaylah with
3/9 shooting from one point range. THERE WERE 1,500 Fans cheering for
Mongolia (FULL HOUSE). The USA fell behind, got it back to 15- 15 at 54.2 seconds remaining, but then then THE USA GOT "tight" and DID NOT GET THE BALL into SARAH and Mongolia closed it out the three free throws.
More Stats: MONGOLIA with 3 blocked shots and USA only had 2.
Mongolia with only 4 turn overs, Morgan Maly had 5 by herself. Khulan
Onolbaatar # 13 for Mongolia with 9 points, 4 for 9 from two-point range and 2 blocked shots.
See Thread #52, above, for other subjective comments. (IF you care for opinion).
 
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I woke up this morning and I logged onto the fiba website to see the result. I am pretty stunned and disappointed to see that we have lost to Mongolia. But that’s 3x3 basketball for you. The men were just eliminated as well.
 
I didn’t think team USA was very good. Sarah was great but her teammates didn’t seem to want to or be able to play with her to best advantage. Morgan and Sahara in particular were liabilities. Mikayla was capable of scoring pretty effectively but not much else.
 
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I checked in to see Sarah play. She has been doing really well in this format, too, even if the US team as a unit felt so-so. Anyway... I am a sucker for underdogs and found it impossible not to cheer for the Mongolian girls. They didn't win by chance: they led almost the entire game. Skilled 3x3 players, knew the rules and executed a winning game plan all the way. A young team with lots of heart, in front of a home crowd going crazy... sorry, gotta love that.
 
I didn’t think team USA was very good. Sarah was great but her teammates didn’t seem to want to or be able to play with her to best advantage. Morgan and Sahara in particular were liabilities. Mikayla was capable of scoring pretty effectively but not much else.

Agree. Sahara can’t shoot and is quite undersized for her game.

Sarah being the only post player was a problem. I was confused how Maly made it over the more experienced Cierra Burdick.
 
I woke up this morning and I logged onto the fiba website to see the result. I am pretty stunned and disappointed to see that we have lost to Mongolia. But that’s 3x3 basketball for you. The men were just eliminated as well.
"Stunned" is the right word!!!
I didn’t think team USA was very good. Sarah was great but her teammates didn’t seem to want to or be able to play with her to best advantage. Morgan and Sahara in particular were liabilities. Mikayla was capable of scoring pretty effectively but not much else.
Some further FIBA Stats to confirm the above (these stats are only for 5 games,
so, the PPG, rebounds, and "Player Values" will change after 7 games). Note:
total number of players is 20 teams X 4 = 80. Thus, the numerical listing (below)
are for player ranking # 1 to #80. Full stats, and there are a lot of analytics, is on FIBA web page. Clink on WOMEN'S STATS and then Click "Individual". After 5 games:
Sarah: Rank #1: 38 pt. (tied for #1) Player Value 62(#1), reb 39 (#1), TO/g 0.6
M. W.: Rank #21: 23 pt, Player Value 23.4, reb 11, TO/g 1.6
M.M.: Rank #44: 16 pt, Player Value 11.4, reb 11, TO/g 1.0
S.W.: Rank #45: 16 pt, Player Value 13.5, reb 20, TO/g 2.0
If I'm a masochist, I may look at these and other values after 7 games. The USA
being knocked out in the Quarterfinals probably cost Sarah a chance of being
the Tournament MVP and being on the ALL TOURNAMENT TEAM. The ALL
TOURNAMENT team (generally) is two from the winning team and one
from the runner up team, and one from team # 3 and #4. The USA team will be rank somewhere between #5 and # 8 due to making it to the Quarterfinals.
Just for Semi completeness: 1pt FG % Sarah 76%, MW 50%, MM 47%, Serah Williams 57%
2-point shooting: Sarah 3/6 50%, MW 3/9 33%, MM 3/17 18%, Serah Williams 0/4 0 %
Team Stats (after 5 games): TOTAL POINTS: USA 93 (#3), with Poland 98 (#1) and
Australia 95 (#2).
N.B. "Player value" = (S- *for points) + KAS + DRV + DNK + BS + (REB/2) - TO.
Where: S- is shooting efficiency, KAS is Key Assists, DRV is Drives, DNK is
Dunks, BZR is Buzzer beaters, REB is Rebounds, and TO is turnovers. Note that
S- (Shooting Efficiency) is further broken down to: S- = PTS divided by
(1 Point attempts + 2-point attempts + Free Throw attempts)
TEAM USA had ONE "elite" player, one just below the top 1/4, and two players
in the lower rankings, i.e. less than a rank of 40 out of 80 players.
 
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FINALS: Netherlands vs mon"GO"lia! Mongolia over Poland 18 -17 n TO!
So, why do the Mongols win? Here are a few of the suggestions from the FIBA
announcers (beyond the talent issue):
1. Noise... the player on the bench is an unofficial coach to her
team on the floor. It is SO NOISY with the 1,500 (sell out +) crowd that
the "away" team loses some communication.???
2. Altitude... The Capital, Ulaanbaatar, sits at 4,429 feet above sea
level. The home team is used to this. With the fast paced, aerobic
challenging game, the Mon"GO"lians are better conditioned for the
altitude challenge.??
3. Home Cooking??? Maybe.
I would add, perhaps, the "sightlines" of the home court venue. This
should favor the 2-point (i.e. 3- point distance shot) that is the Mongolia
game plan. Then there is the shock value to the opposing team when
the game is close and the ensuing "tightening up". Lastly, the Mongolians don't
tend to foul and generally they are good from the foul line.
 
FIBA Standings: USA ends up #6. USA had 93 points to Australia's 95 points (#5).
The final FIBA Women's Stats "individual" list has Sarah as # 4 overall in the tournament (fourth of 80).
Sarah tied for #3 in total points (38 points in 5games) three players higher but played 7games. Sarah #2 in PPG at 7.6 ppg (#1 was 9.0 ppg). Sarah #1 in "player value" (see thread #59 above for calculation). Sarah #1 in Shot Efficiency 0.83. Sarah #6 in one-point shot % at 76%. Sarah tied for #2 on two-point % =50 %, one player at 100% = 1/1, and two others also at 50%). Sarah with 91% on free throws, many players with 100%. Sarah tied for 9th on blocked shots with 3. Sarah #2 on total rebounds (39) with top rebounder with 48. But Sarah was #1 on rebounds per game at 7.8. I have yet to see the ALL-TOURNAMENT TEAM official announcement. Her ranking of #4 in the list of Women's Stats gives me hope, but the USA team coming in 6th make this seem unlikely. I will check later. WAY TO GO, SARAH!!!
 
Mongolia deserved to win. They made?? 6 two pointers.??
Morgan Maly with a number of turnovers. Sahara Williams
with an offensive foul and a delay of game penalty. Mikaylah
Williams with a technical foul and (poorly) trying to do it all
herself. THEY DID NOT GET THE BALL TO SARAH UNDERNEATH!
Sarah with multiple rebounds, a blocked shot, and solid scoring.
Mongolia also hit the CLUTCH FREE THROWS. I have yet to check
the official stats.
Mongolia played well out there. Heck, they had zero to lose and a whole to gain. The crowd was electric!! Team USA just did not play smart basketball at all. They lost their composure, as you pointed out the Tech on Mikaylah Williams. That was just silly on her part. Sarah played so-so out there. It was a great game, and it sucks that USA lost but they will learn from this and build on it.
 
Mongolia played well out there. Heck, they had zero to lose and a whole to gain. The crowd was electric!! Team USA just did not play smart basketball at all. They lost their composure, as you pointed out the Tech on Mikaylah Williams. That was just silly on her part. Sarah played so-so out there. It was a great game, and it sucks that USA lost but they will learn from this and build on it.
Check out Sarah's stats at: OVERVIEW FIBA 3x3 WORLD CUP 2025 Ulaanbaatar.
Look for "stats" on the left-hand column, click, and on the Stat page go
to WOMEN'S and then go to "Individual". You'll see Sarah listed # 4 out of
80 players and if you look across the many statistical "Analytics" you'll find
Sarah at the top of some and near the top on others. My Favorite is
"P-VAL" (PLAYER VALUE) with Sarah rated at 62.0. This is a composite score that is
calculated as follows: P-VAL (Player Value) = Shot-efficiency (PTS) +
KAS + DRV + DNK + BZR + (REB/2) - TO. There is a legend on the FIBA
web page explaining each item in the calculation. Sarah's 62 rating is
the highest in the tournament (see the entire list of 80 players and scroll
down to confirm). One "unofficial" source that I found had
Sarah as "on the OFFICAL Women's All-TOURNAMENT TEAM" but the
truly "official" FIBA web page has not reported that. You can check that in the
future. Go to the same HOME page that is listed above and scroll down
to AWARDS... near the bottom of that right hand column. Regardless, I'm sure we will get some "official" announcement out of Storrs if this is truly a "fact".
GO UCONN, GO SARAH! Z
 
A Stat comparison of MVPs: Sarah Wilson (my choice of the USA's MVP)
vs. the MVP of the FIBA 3x3 Tournament: Noortje Driessen. Ms. Driessen
is the best player on The Netherlands team and is ranked the #1 3x3
women's player IN THE WORLD by FIBA.
Sarah: 5 games 1 pt shots 76% 22/29 Noortje 1 pt 56 % 22/39
Sarah: 2-point shots 50% 3/6 Noortje 2 pt 22% 5/23
Sarah: Free Throws 91% 10/11 Noortje 79 % 11/14
Sarah: Points 38 (5 games=7.6 ppg) Noortje 43 (7 Games = 6.1 ppg)
Sarah: Rebounds 39 7.8 rb/game Noortje 14 2.0 rb/game
Sarah: Turnovers 3 0.6 to/game Noortje 12 1.7 to/game
Sarah: Player Value: 62.0 Noortje 53.5
For a complete comparison and the derivation of PLAYER VALUE
GOOGLE: FIBA 3x3 World Cup: Stats WOMEN. Or go to FIBA 3x3
overview WORLD CUP and click on WOMEN's Stats (on left)
and then hit "PLAYERS". Ms. Driessen is ranked #2 and Sarah #4.
The Primary determining Stat for this list is TOTAL POINTS. The
#1 player for total points is from Mongolia with 44 points. The #3 player is
from Poland with 42 POINTS. BUT .... those TOP THREE played SEVEN
GAMES and Sarah played only 5. So... Who is your # 1 and your MVP???
 
I'll be honest - I posted way earlier after watching the very first game (Sarah did not play well) wondering how the team would do. And after that Sarah pretty much took off.

She did not shoot the 3 well (22%), but was awesome everywhere else. I was MOST impressed at how "strong" she was in the post. She was incredible at using her body to push the defender back while not lowering her shoulder to commit a foul, and score easily almost every time while getting mauled (I mean fouled) which seemed to never be called.

Great overall experience for her - I expect she will eventually be a mainstay on the 5x5 Team USA, but for now, she gets to travel, play fun games with other really good players, and get a different kind of experience.

Can you imagine Sarah with a sophomore leap? OMG. She's on my shortlist for NPOY.
 
Wondering if this event had any impact on recruiting.
 
I didn’t think team USA was very good. Sarah was great but her teammates didn’t seem to want to or be able to play with her to best advantage. Morgan and Sahara in particular were liabilities. Mikayla was capable of scoring pretty effectively but not much else.
I blame the coaches.
 
I blame the coaches.
I blame the timing and selection "committee." No WNBA break...

Even though Paige needs some time off to reheal her sore knee, Paige would be amazing with Azzi, Sarah, and Caitlyn Clark (who is also on the mend). With UConn players, one only needs one name...

Go USA! Go Huskies (+ one)!!!
 
A Stat comparison of MVPs: Sarah Wilson (my choice of the USA's MVP)
vs. the MVP of the FIBA 3x3 Tournament: Noortje Driessen. Ms. Driessen
is the best player on The Netherlands team and is ranked the #1 3x3
women's player IN THE WORLD by FIBA.
Sarah: 5 games 1 pt shots 76% 22/29 Noortje 1 pt 56 % 22/39
Sarah: 2-point shots 50% 3/6 Noortje 2 pt 22% 5/23
Sarah: Free Throws 91% 10/11 Noortje 79 % 11/14
Sarah: Points 38 (5 games=7.6 ppg) Noortje 43 (7 Games = 6.1 ppg)
Sarah: Rebounds 39 7.8 rb/game Noortje 14 2.0 rb/game
Sarah: Turnovers 3 0.6 to/game Noortje 12 1.7 to/game
Sarah: Player Value: 62.0 Noortje 53.5
For a complete comparison and the derivation of PLAYER VALUE
GOOGLE: FIBA 3x3 World Cup: Stats WOMEN. Or go to FIBA 3x3
overview WORLD CUP and click on WOMEN's Stats (on left)
and then hit "PLAYERS". Ms. Driessen is ranked #2 and Sarah #4.
The Primary determining Stat for this list is TOTAL POINTS. The
#1 player for total points is from Mongolia with 44 points. The #3 player is
from Poland with 42 POINTS. BUT .... those TOP THREE played SEVEN
GAMES and Sarah played only 5. So... Who is your # 1 and your MVP???
Who is Sarah Wilson???
 

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