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So Jefferson plays 35 minutes with 14 points and 12 rebounds and Sanogo 21 minutes 13 points 5 rebounds. Between Whaley and Sanogo we had plenty to fight Creighton except Sanogo was kept off the floor. Need him for 30 plus minutes.
 
Just as big a problem to me is that Hurley stopped trying to get him the ball after his 3rd foul. He was getting whatever he wanted down low, it's completely bizarre that Hurley stopped going to him. Cost us the game IMO
 
I can't think of many freshman bigs who don't have foul problems. It's kind of par for the course, IMO. The great thing is that he'll be a sophomore next year, but even this year he's been improving in that area. Sometimes it's just who the refs are, and how they're calling the game.
 
I have been reading through these threads which I should not do after a loss.

But little has been said of Martin scoring only 2 points. He took some crazy ass shots and not much presence on defense.
 
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jibsey said:
So Jefferson plays 35 minutes with 14 points and 12 rebounds and Sanogo 21 minutes 13 points 5 rebounds. Between Whaley and Sanogo we had plenty to fight Creighton except Sanogo was kept off the floor. Need him for 30 plus minutes.
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Bouknight missing the 1/1 led to Sanogo’s fourth foul... that play really hurt our chances to win the game. That’s on Bouknight.
 
Greathusky said:
I have been reading through these threads which I should not do after a loss.

But little has been said of Martin scoring only 2 points. He took some crazy ass shots and not much presence on defense.
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There’s no question that it’s on everyone who shot poorly. I feel blessed to have Sanogo in our uniform. With that footwork and patience. When have we had that in a guy his size? He should be teaching that pivot and patience to his teammates for when they’re inside.
 
The Sanogo fouls were the most infuriating. The only way to defend Sanogo is to get him off the floor. Mahaney sliding in front of Sanogo to draw a foul - that was not a defensive play, Sanogo wasn't making an offensive move. The only purpose there was to try to draw a cheap foul and the ref fell for it. Bush league. Last night Creighton was the better team but I would have liked to see UConn compete without having to sit its best weapon because of phantom fouls. It's the Big East Tournament.
 
I thought some credit should be given to Creighton defense for being very active. They at least were altering shots by being in everyone's face (like our guys did). Overall it was a good game in terms of hustle and especially on defense by both teams. It was an old fashioned Big East rock fight. We killed them on the boards and our guards got pummeled. I think RJ's leaving the game with 4-5 mins remaining didn't help. Also losing Sanogo for a long stretch of the first half took away our momentum. He was pretty unstoppable which is really something to look forward to. He is just going to have learn to be careful. Like Whaley has learned. Once again a number of shots were not made at or around the rim. In comparison to all our previous games I don't remember such consist challenges at the rim by an opponent. Credit Creighton. OT there are some really good young players in the Big East. Besides Sanogo this kid Jefferson has been eating his Wheaties. I can't say I was disappointed by the effort of any player on either side in this game. They were more experienced, especially at the point. On to the next battle!
 
I thought the officials killed UConn's momentum early in the game. Earlier in the season, I thought that eventually, the poor free throw shooting would come back to bite UConn, and it did.
 
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UconnFanDC said:
Ummmm what game did you watch? Did you see the shooting percentages of everyone not named Whaley or Sanogo?
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This game was mostly about missing open looks. Whaley also passed on a few he should have taken. Make your shots, win the game. The rest looked pretty good although not 100% sharp. Maybe the extra time off will help us, especially Bouk. He seems a little beat up and could use a break. I'm optimistic if we can make a few more shots we can beat anyone, even Gonzaga.
 
The hook was a very easy call for the refs to make. I don’t understand why people are so upset about that call. It was a foul and he did it right in front of the ref. The 3rd foul was a joke for the reasons mentioned above. That was a killer.
 
Rico444 said:
Just as big a problem to me is that Hurley stopped trying to get him the ball after his 3rd foul. He was getting whatever he wanted down low, it's completely bizarre that Hurley stopped going to him. Cost us the game IMO
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Creighton started boxing him in. He couldn't get a pass down low.
 
Jimdish255 said:
This game was mostly about missing open looks. Whaley also passed on a few he should have taken. Make your shots, win the game. The rest looked pretty good although not 100% sharp. Maybe the extra time off will help us, especially Bouk. He seems a little beat up and could use a break. I'm optimistic if we can make a few more shots we can beat anyone, even Gonzaga.
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Hmmmm. That's definitely being optimistic. There are about 5 teams that would be too much for us and the Zags are definitely one of them. But our A game and another teams C game can make anything possible.
 
The original poster has a point. Hurley said that "the difference in the game was probably the 17 offensive rebounds we gave up." Sanogo being out probably contributed to that disparity.
 
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dennismenace said:
I thought some credit should be given to Creighton defense for being very active. They at least were altering shots by being in everyone's face (like our guys did). Overall it was a good game in terms of hustle and especially on defense by both teams. It was an old fashioned Big East rock fight. We killed them on the boards and our guards got pummeled. I think RJ's leaving the game with 4-5 mins remaining didn't help. Also losing Sanogo for a long stretch of the first half took away our momentum. He was pretty unstoppable which is really something to look forward to. He is just going to have learn to be careful. Like Whaley has learned. Once again a number of shots were not made at or around the rim. In comparison to all our previous games I don't remember such consist challenges at the rim by an opponent. Credit Creighton. OT there are some really good young players in the Big East. Besides Sanogo this kid Jefferson has been eating his Wheaties. I can't say I was disappointed by the effort of any player on either side in this game. They were more experienced, especially at the point. On to the next battle!
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Correction: They killed us on the boards. Sanogo foul trouble really impacted rebounds.
 
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uconngb said:
The hook was a very easy call for the refs to make. I don’t understand why people are so upset about that call. It was a foul and he did it right in front of the ref. The 3rd foul was a joke for the reasons mentioned above. That was a killer.
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Did you watch the replay? All he hooked was air. Barely even touched his defender.
 
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uconngb said:
Yeah I saw it. He put his arm on the guy. Easy call the refs will make every time.
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How about lowering your shoulder and shoving the defender back a few feet. Jefferson was pretty good at that and seemed to have slightly more effect than the breeze of waving your arm.
 
Rico444 said:
Just as big a problem to me is that Hurley stopped trying to get him the ball after his 3rd foul. He was getting whatever he wanted down low, it's completely bizarre that Hurley stopped going to him. Cost us the game IMO
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Yes, we seem to move away from what was working while other team reinforce what works like backing down a smaller player through isolation. This happens much to much with our help just looking on. Why? Other teams double and take their chances. If we don't clean this up soon the better NCAA teams will pick our pockets.
 
Palatine said:
The original poster has a point. Hurley said that "the difference in the game was probably the 17 offensive rebounds we gave up." Sanogo being out probably contributed to that disparity.
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I agree with this but there should have not that many to be had. They missed a ton of chip shots in this game.
My question if rebounding is a problem why did Carlton not get more than four minutes filling in for Sanogo?
When he went out both Martin and Cole were over manned by taller players under the basket. Not attacking Dan but coaches get a state sheet each quarter not something he had to wait post game to discover.
 
Jefferson killed UConn as I feared he might do. The kid has an NBA body and he knows how to use it. He plays with effort and is a competitor who backs down from no one. If he was 3 inches taller he would be a 1st round draft pick. He was determined not to lose the game and took it upon himself to carry the team on his back. He is a senior and has the experience that most of the UConn players do not. Creighton is an older team and have been there before - UConn hasn't.
 
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