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WhereistheDove? said:
Rahm is the only match where Europe is favored today. None of those matches would individually be surprising, but enough breaking Europe’s way would be very surprising. Out of DJ, Koepka, JT, English, and Cantlay, I’d be surprised to see Europe getting more than 2 points. There’s some pretty decent mismatches.
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That is what I was getting at. Individually there's only a few "Wow! Never guessed that would happen." But the overall odds of one team running a train on the other is very low.
 
LIuconn said:
Hovland Morikawa will be a ballstriking clinic
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Yes. Difference is Morikawa is a much better putter and around the green scrambling. I like Hovland a lot. He had a couple of tourneys earlier this year where he had quad and triple bogeys and still finished top 10. When he gets hot, he's one of the guys where 58-59 is a doable number and they'd do it looking normal.
 
alphasigko said:
That course is obviously tough without the wind and, as we saw Friday and yesterday, brutal when it blows. It surely is fun to watch these guys struggle with having to make something happen when their shots wind up lying in the deep rough and bunkers.

I am looking forward to a day of great competition and hopefully a Team USA victory!

PS - Did you know that a round of golf there costs $550 + Caddy Fee and tip? Simply amazing....
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Owned by a real plumber, what rates did you expect?
 
Anyone ever played Kohler? There are 4 18 hole courses. At Whistling Straits there are the Straits course and Irish course. At Blackwolf Run there are the River course (36 holes) and the Meadow Valleys course. It's 2 and half hours from Chicago. I've never played there because I'm a high handicapper and all of the courses are extremely difficult. It's very expensive to play there but you can get some decent packages if you stay over at the Kohler lodge called the American Club.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Yes. Difference is Morikawa is a much better putter and around the green scrambling. I like Hovland a lot. He had a couple of tourneys earlier this year where he had quad and triple bogeys and still finished top 10. When he gets hot, he's one of the guys where 58-59 is a doable number and they'd do it looking normal.
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Not sure what you're looking at to definitively say Collin is a better putter. In overall putting of the 196 players ranked for 2021, Hovland is 81st to Morikawa's 107. In strokes gained putting, Morikawa is 178 to Hovland's 99. Morikawa has an advantage in strokes gained around the green, but again, he's middle of the pack at 86 to Hovland's 124.

I mentioned that pairing in particular as I believe it'll have the fewest mistakes and likely won't swing more than a point either way throughout.
 
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I heard English announcers tweaking the Euro Ryder Cup team during a couple of soccer matches yesterday.
 
Cantlay goes full hacker on 1st hole. Blades a wedge from 45 yards and runs it all the way past the green and down the slope.
 
Euros off to a good start with Rory but will need a lot to win. Just heard Rory has the second most birdies on the PGA Tour this year behind Rahm. He is not winning majors but is still an awesome player
 
QDOG5 said:
Anyone ever played Kohler? There are 4 18 hole courses. At Whistling Straits there are the Straits course and Irish course. At Blackwolf Run there are the River course (36 holes) and the Meadow Valleys course. It's 2 and half hours from Chicago. I've never played there because I'm a high handicapper and all of the courses are extremely difficult. It's very expensive to play there but you can get some decent packages if you stay over at the Kohler lodge called the American Club.
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I'd love to, but it won't happen. Think I'm done walking 18 with my knees and at that price, I'd want a masseuse following me around, lol.

Funny thing about playing great courses with caddies in the US - bag weight limits. Whistling Straits is 25 lbs. I don't know if they have that yet in Europe, but when I played the Old Course, there were no restrictions I was aware of. I had the opportunity to play Baltusrol back in 2001 as our CEO was a member. I had to strip the bag down to only essentials, like 6 balls, no rain gear, no snacks, etc. And my caddie still managed to not find a ball of mine in short rough.

I remember when I caddied at CC Darien and Woodway, we had golfers with bags that could've shamed Al Czervik. Kids these days :p
 
BTW, Dye working this course to put all four of the Par 3's on Lake Michigan and have two face one direction and two the other direction is genius.
 
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For those just getting acquainted with Cantlay the past month or so, he is supposed to be top 5 golfer in the world. His amateur record was almost perfect and shot a 60 as an amateur at a PGA tour 3cent at.........drumroll......TPC River Highlands.

He had some serious back issues which clipped him right as he was turning pro but should be in the conversation every tourny for next 15 years.

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Patrick Cantlay - Wikipedia

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storrsroars said:
I'd love to, but it won't happen. Think I'm done walking 18 with my knees and at that price, I'd want a masseuse following me around, lol.

Funny thing about playing great courses with caddies in the US - bag weight limits. Whistling Straits is 25 lbs. I don't know if they have that yet in Europe, but when I played the Old Course, there were no restrictions I was aware of. I had the opportunity to play Baltusrol back in 2001 as our CEO was a member. I had to strip the bag down to only essentials, like 6 balls, no rain gear, no snacks, etc. And my caddie still managed to not find a ball of mine in short rough.

I remember when I caddied at CC Darien and Woodway, we had golfers with bags that could've shamed Al Czervik. Kids these days :p
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I caddied at Yale, carrying doubles on a great course built for mountain goats. Would now be an effort to walk 18 carrying nothing but a putter.
 
NBC must be ratings nervous. If this wraps up early point wise (at least in the past) the remaining matches pick up and head in for a drink, no golf left to watch.
 
huskiesouth said:
NBC must be ratings nervous. If this wraps up early point wise (at least in the past) the remaining matches pick up and head in for a drink, no golf left to watch.
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Once NFL games start any ratings NBC can get is gravy.

I love golf as much anyone but NFL will eat away at NBC and golf regardless of drama.
 
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storrsroars said:
Not much of a gambler. Don't have an online account nor know a bookie these days. Big change since I used to run slips in college and bet a lot on college games.

Anyway, Rahm's not done yet.
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No he is not.

I became a Scheffler believer at WGC match play earlier this year when Scheffler took out Poulter and Rahm on same day.

Two years on the tour and he already has top 10's in every major.

USA is stacked for next decade- Scheffler, Morikawa, Schauffele, Koepka, DeChambeau, Spieth, Thomas, Finau, Cantlay are all good for next decade-. DJ still has another 6-8 years of these cups.

Say goodbye to Simpson, Kuchar and Reed unless they force automatically qualifying.
 
Looks like JT wlll have the clincher to me.

edit: JT blew the easy birdie putt to clinch. Morikawa got the honors.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
No he is not.

I became a Scheffler believer at WGC match play earlier this year when Scheffler took out Poulter and Rahm on same day.

Two years on the tour and he already has top 10's in every major.

USA is stacked for next decade- Scheffler, Morikawa, Schauffele, Koepka, DeChambeau, Spieth, Thomas, Finau, Cantlay are all good for next decade-. DJ still has another 6-8 years of these cups.

Say goodbye to Simpson, Kuchar and Reed unless they force automatically qualifying.
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Simpson and Kuchar yes.
Reed is still young and a top player. He just barely missed qualifying.
It’ll be interesting how they treat him in the future if he doesn’t automatically qualify. I think Stricker was relieved he could leave him off the team and blame his health. He’s an unlikable jerk and they are better off without him in terms of chemistry.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
No he is not.

I became a Scheffler believer at WGC match play earlier this year when Scheffler took out Poulter and Rahm on same day.

Two years on the tour and he already has top 10's in every major.

USA is stacked for next decade- Scheffler, Morikawa, Schauffele, Koepka, DeChambeau, Spieth, Thomas, Finau, Cantlay are all good for next decade-. DJ still has another 6-8 years of these cups.

Say goodbye to Simpson, Kuchar and Reed unless they force automatically qualifying.
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add in Zalatoris as well

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I watch a ton of golf and can’t think of a young euro on the cusp. Then you see the USA winning the walker cup again, Willy Z waiting in the wings and yikes. Talent gap may be wider in Rome
 
LIuconn said:
I watch a ton of golf and can’t think of a young euro on the cusp. Then you see the USA winning the walker cup again, Willy Z waiting in the wings and yikes. Talent gap may be wider in Rome
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Next guys up are probably:

Guido Magliozzi. 24 years old. Had a 4T at the US Open this year.
Rasmus Højgaard, 20 years old, already has 3 Euro Tour wins.
Sami Välimäki, 23 years old, had 4 wins on the PGA EuroPro Tour in 2019.

I'd think they'd also love to see Victor Dubuisson make a full comeback. He had a couple of serious operations on his sinuses and ear that knocked him out of competition for pretty much three years. He played seven tourneys in 2020. He's 2-0 in Ryder Cup and has a couple top 10s in majors. Still only 32.
 
Thanks ^. We’ll see how it shakes out over the next 2 years. Such a great event when it’s close
 
storrsroars said:
Rasmus Højgaard, 20 years old, already has 3 Euro Tour wins.
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His twin Nicolai won the Italian Open this year and both had excellent amateur careers. I expect one/both to make multiple Ryder Cups team in the future.
 
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