Rumors from our favorite rumor mongers getting interesting

[sportsart]

I could be totally wrong, but I have felt since November and how the whole last cycle of realignment played out, from our administration's silence and inferred apathy to how espn and the ACC promoted Louisville and their assumed selection "over" us, were all signs that point towards UConn always being in the Big 10's plan. Actions speak louder than words, and UConns actions since then hint at only one direction. Personally, I dont think the Big 10 ever looked at Maryland and Rutgers as stand alone additions. To me, they were the initial step, for whatever silly reasons they may have had, to locking in the NYC and DC markets. In translation, to me, when the Big 10 decided on the latest round of realignment, their plan all along was to include Rutgers then UCONN and Maryland then UVA, in that order. So as we think back to when it felt like UConns world was imploding and Louisville was chosen over us, we can interpret that as a desperate attempt by both school(Louisville) and conference(ACC) to justify their existence, but we all know it was just panic. More than just hoping that my thoughts are proved true, I really hope one day it is leaked out that UCONN said no to the ACC, not vice versa.

They were doing the happy dance all over campus when it was "inevitable" UConn was going to the ACC. They did not, I repeat, did not turn down the ACC and were blind sided by the UL invite.

But one can dream.

 

[RMoore1999]

They were doing the happy dance all over campus when it was "inevitable" UConn was going to the ACC. They did not, I repeat, did not turn down the ACC and were blind sided by the UL invite.

But one can dream.

Are you and Fishy sharing the same "sources" these days?

 

[djct1999]

I dont think anyone believes they turned down an invitation. They never received one. The question is why didnt they? I contend it is because the ACC heard rumblings that UConn was going in a different direction.

 

[CL82]

I dont think anyone believes they turned down an invitation. They never received one. The question is why didnt they? I contend it is because the ACC heard rumblings that UConn was going in a different direction.

Any basis for that contention? Anything? Oujii Board? Really, just give me something.

 

[UConn Dan]

I dont think anyone believes they turned down an invitation. They never received one. The question is why didnt they? I contend it is because the ACC heard rumblings that UConn was going in a different direction.

The ACC also said they took Louisville ahead of us because they were desired by other conferences (Big 12). I don't think anyone seriously considers us as the next pick by the Big 10. We may end up in the Big 10 or Big 12 or ACC but we aren't going to end up there as anyone's first choice. But IMO, that's short-sighted on all of their parts -- we are going to run NYC in football and still dominate nationally in basketball.

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

 

[RegisteredUconn]

[quote="RegisteredUconn, post: 492457, member: 1477" Surviving on the seed corn can only sustain you for so long.

That is literally true. But the "for so long" period will be at least two more generations.[/quote]

That's a lot of seed corn. If I ever get hooked up with the Donner Party part deux, I want you in charge of provisioning.

Not sure ND's good will should be amortized over fifty years though.

 

[Alum86]

KFC/Yum, PaPa John's, southern geography, BC and FSU ambivalent v.
Ratty HCC-Gampel, smallish RENT, another Yankee state, Jesuits and Miami hate us.

Perception and Animosity. That is why we got left. We turned down nothing.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

The ACC also said they took Louisville ahead of us because they were desired by other conferences (Big 12). I don't think anyone seriously considers us as the next pick by the Big 10. We may end up in the Big 10 or Big 12 or ACC but we aren't going to end up there as anyone's first choice. But IMO, that's short-sighted on all of their parts -- we are going to run NYC in football and still dominate nationally in basketball.

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

Kool Aid needed at UConn Dan's! Stat!

 

[UConn Dan]

KFC/Yum, PaPa John's, southern geography, BC and FSU ambivalent v.
Ratty HCC-Gampel, smallish RENT, another Yankee state, Jesuits and Miami hate us.

Perception and Animosity. That is why we got left. We turned down nothing.

Naming rights are coming up this year for XL center and naming rights can be awarded for the Rent starting in 2017 (terms are would need to say: BlahBlahBlah at Rentschler Field).

To get some notice from the south and mid-west:
My vote would be for Popeye's Chicken Coliseum and Pizza Hut Stadium at Rentschler Field.

 

[Point6]

Naming rights are coming up this year for XL center and naming rights can be awarded for the Rent starting in 2017 (terms are would need to say: BlahBlahBlah at Rentschler Field).

To get some notice from the south and mid-west:
My vote would be for Popeye's Chicken Coliseum and Pizza Hut Stadium at Rentschler Field.

I like it, but, based on my observations, old school southerners are a breakfast crowd:

Waffle House Steak and Egg Stadium at Rentschler Field
Denny's Grand Slam Stadium at Rentschler Field.

 

[UConn Dan]

I like it, but, based on my observations, old school southerners are a breakfast crowd:

Waffle House Steak and Egg Stadium at Rentschler Field
Denny's Grand Slam Stadium at Rentschler Field.

Don't forget Shoney's! haha

 

[djct1999]

Any basis for that contention? Anything? Oujii Board? Really, just give me something.

I wont even pretend to have anything concrete or I am an "insider". My thoughts are based on the following:
a) UConn and the markets it provides access to is way to valuable to simply be left out.
b) if Delaney's goal is to lock in the major northeast markets, Rutgers alone wont fullfil that wish. UConn is a bridge from NYC to Boston and with an occassional game vs a marquee program(OSU or Michigan) why not agree to play in either MetLife or Foxboro and provide both.
c) the actions or lack of response from our administration

 

[HuskyHawk]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203846804578101281578171860.html?mod=WSJ_hp_EditorsPicks#project=COLLEGES1106&articleTabs=article

That seems more like it. Outside of Atlanta it is even more pronounced.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I dont think anyone believes they turned down an invitation. They never received one. The question is why didnt they? I contend it is because the ACC heard rumblings that UConn was going in a different direction.

I sense it was more political. FSU, Miami, GT and Clemson aren't happy about the balance of power in the ACC being solidly with basketball focused schools once Pitt and Syracuse come on board. In their mind, adding yet another northern, academics and basketball first school shifts the balance of power too far towards UNC/Duke/UVA. Louisville is nominally southern, and becomes the academic bottom feeder in the league. I think FSU sees UConn driving the ACC further from SEC/Big 12 model of a conference.

No inside info. I know nothing. Just trying to piece the puzzle together.

 

[pj]

I dont think anyone believes they turned down an invitation. They never received one. The question is why didnt they? I contend it is because the ACC heard rumblings that UConn was going in a different direction.

"Rumblings"? "Rumblings" of competition wouldn't deter a determined suitor.

Here's I think the true explanation. These deals are extremely complex legally. UConn had sold a wide range of Tier 3 TV rights to SNY, IMG, etc; ACC had sold all rights to ACC league home games to ESPN/Raycom. These contracts have to be reconciled. UConn would be a complex and lengthy negotiation for the ACC, and UConn would throughout the negotiation be going back to its contract partners and also the B1G to look for better offers and ways to reconcile terms to its advantage. Louisville on the other hand would sign whatever proposal the ACC put forth on the dotted line. All we need to assume is that the ACC wanted to move quickly, and they would pick Louisville. You don't need to assume UConn had a deal in hand with the B1G, or that the ACC preferred Louisville to UConn.

There were probably also political considerations, eg BC not wanting New England competition and FSU not wanting to let perceived basketball schools dominate the league or (more likely in my view) wanting to take away a potential B12 member so that the B12 would be more likely to make it an offer.

 

[UConn Dan]

"Rumblings"? "Rumblings" of competition wouldn't deter a determined suitor.

Here's I think the true explanation. These deals are extremely complex legally. UConn had sold a wide range of Tier 3 TV rights to SNY, IMG, etc; ACC had sold all rights to ACC league home games to ESPN/Raycom. These contracts have to be reconciled. UConn would be a complex and lengthy negotiation for the ACC, and UConn would throughout the negotiation be going back to its contract partners and also the B1G to look for better offers and ways to reconcile terms to its advantage. Louisville on the other hand would sign whatever proposal the ACC put forth on the dotted line. All we need to assume is that the ACC wanted to move quickly, and they would pick Louisville.

UConn's deal with SNY and IMG is not a stopper. In sure Louisville has similar deals. What's more SNY deal expires in two years.

 

[CL82]

It was perfect storm of BCU fear of us and FSU chest thumping. Add to that the perception that L'ville had a place to go and we did not and a vigorous sales campaign by L'ville while we slept and bang a commuter schools line jumps us. Unfortunate but it is what it is.