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I’m seeing references to a UConn football-only membership with both basketball teams playing 1-3 games vs Pac-12 teams who are: Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, San Diego State, Texas State, Utah State, and Gonzaga

My opinion on this: Meh.

 
Seems like AAC all over again for football. Basketball would stay fine for men, and the women still in a Big East that has sparse competition. Zero regional rivalry and second tier state schools generally. Major travel for football even with a few other East of the Mississippi teams. .
 
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So a couple of comments:

Since this is primarily football, we are only talking about three or four trips a year. The problem is that they would also like three games with both men's and women's basketball, which is a lot to give up given that our preseason needs to be played against top competition to bolster our quad one win totals.

Secondly, and most importantly, the math ain't mathing on this. The Pac 12's cobbled together media deal doesn't exactly leave them flush with cash. In order for this deal to even vaguely make sense they'd have to buy out the contracts of multiple football games we already have scheduled, make up the money we would earn during our pre Conference games, make up The money we'd lose on our existing CBS Sports football broadcast deal and pay us a premium to make up for the increase in travel costs... and that's just to break even.

The Pac 12 can search around the couch cushions as much as they like, but I don't think it will be sufficient money there to make it worth our while.
 
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Charliebball said:
I'm sure there are others here who know more about the politics of this, but I believe the issue revolves around Boston College being the ACC's existing team in the New England marketplace and they don't want the media competition that UConn teams would bring.....
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I kinda chuckled here. What media attention is Boston College getting?
 
Charliebball said:
I'm sure there are others here who know more about the politics of this, but I believe the issue revolves around Boston College being the ACC's existing team in the New England marketplace and they don't want the media competition that UConn teams would bring.....
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Which is amusing since the Boston area and NE media (outside the campus radio station and website) barely knows that BC has a WCBB team.
 
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As a UConn football fan first, this is a terrible idea. All that's going to do is put an even larger financial strain on the poegram without getting travel partners
 
LwrcasefaN said:
I kinda chuckled here. What media attention is Boston College getting?
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We were living in the Boston area when Boston College had a top 10-20 team in football, basketball, and many other sports. After the conference change, they are basically a high end Mid-Major with a few big name schools on their schedule. If I was a BC alum, I would feel sold out by the administration. Agree with many of the posters that BC, once a top team in the top sports, at the national level is basically a poor performing unknown.. Hope the extra money helps.
 
I had kind of joked about UConn going into the new PAC 12. The only way it really makes any logic is if they managed to get 5-6 eastern schools to join. Then they could offer a national schedule in all time zones. Still it would most likely be power conference 4b.

It seems to still make more sense for UConn to still wait on ACC or Big10. Going to PAC as a single eastern school not worth it.
 
BobbyJ said:
Which is amusing since the Boston area and NE media (outside the campus radio station and website) barely knows that BC has a WCBB team.
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The Boston media sports market is focus on the professional sports teams, all of which have had a long successful run. Even with this, the paper media is cutting back coverage so good luck to the college level entrants.
 
HopJim said:
We were living in the Boston area when Boston College had a top 10-20 team in football, basketball, and many other sports. After the conference change, they are basically a high end Mid-Major with a few big name schools on their schedule. If I was a BC alum, I would feel sold out by the administration. Agree with many of the posters that BC, once a top team in the top sports, at the national level is basically a poor performing unknown.. Hope the extra money helps.
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BC
Syracuse
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
Miami
Virginia Tech
Rutgers

All of those schools had better football teams in the Big East. It’s only recently Miami has been able to get back where they were. Men’s hoops have done nothing and only some of the women’s bb teams are making noise

And they’re losing money. Rutgers lost $75 million last year. Even ESPN is worse off and losing money. So, what was the point of conference realignment again?
 
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Bald Husky said:
Big12 talking about us again, aways a bridesmaid never a bride.
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Charliebball said:
The ACC is the conference that makes the most sense, Boston College or no Boston College.......
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The ACC would have to invite us. Despite several opportunities to invite us, they have not sent the invite. Do you see a pattern?
 
CL82 said:
So a couple of comments:

Since this is primarily football, we are only talking about three or four trips a year. The problem is that they would also like three games with both men's and women's basketball, which is a lot to give up given that our preseason needs to be played against top competition to bolster our quad one win totals.

Secondly, and most importantly, the math ain't mathing on this. The Pac 12's cobbled together media deal doesn't exactly leave them flush with cash. In order for this deal to even vaguely make sense they'd have to buy out the contracts of multiple football games we already have scheduled, make up the money we would earn during our pre Conference games, make up The money we'd lose on our existing CBS Sports football broadcast deal and pay us a premium to make up for the increase in travel costs... and that's just to break even.

The Pac 12 can search around the couch cushions as much as they like, but I don't think it will be sufficient money there to make it worth our while.
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If they add the 4 teams, that takes them to 13 teams. If they go east/west divisions it would make travel less a problem. It would likely be UConn, USF, Tulane, Memphis, Texas State, plus one. We can keep our non-football teams in the Big East.

However, not sure why USF, Memphis, & Tulane would move all sports to the PAC for the same amount of money. Based on this I doubt the scenario will ever happen. Otherwise, for UConn football only it should be considered, but I am happy with our football schedule over the next 2 years and if we can keep this up, independence is fine for now.
 
I am a life-long UConn fan (born and raised in CT). The Navy brought me to the beautiful PNW over 40 years ago (1985) where I have lived ever since. Both of my children are WSU graduates and I count many other Cougar and Beavers fans among my circle of friends.

A part of me wants to get excited about this potential move but in the end I don't believe this makes much sense. I followed the old PAC-12 very closely (my wife and her family are all UW grads) and continue to read every bit of news on the new PAC-12.

Some of the posters on this thread have talked about the league potentially buying out UConn's future schedule commitments, but what you may not know, is that while WSU and OSU received a significant payout when the league collapsed, they are still in litigation with the Mountain West over poaching several teams to the tune of $55M. I can't see the league using any monies for buying out UConn's commitments until that lawsuit is settled.

From a competitive standpoint, I think the football schedule would definitely be an upgrade over the current slate. BSU, WSU, USU and most recently SDSU (not so much last year) have had competitive teams, having qualified for bowl games. However the travel logistics and costs outweigh this competitive upgrade.

From a basketball perspective, especially for the men, replacing teams like UTSA, ETAM, Bryant and UNH would be a definite upgrade. I realize that UConn wouldn't replace all those quad 3/4 teams with PAC-12 schools but replacing 2 of those would be a definite schedule upgrade. Gonzaga, Utah St., SDSU and CSU are quality programs.

As for the women, not so much, although OSU was a competitive team before the breakup and WSU was a program on the rise. And while BSU, SDSU and CSU each won 25+ games last year, I don't see Geno replacing his traditional opponents, dropping any of those games if at all avoidable.

In the end, a reluctant thumbs down from this PNW based UConn fan (who is also rooting for a successful new PAC-12).
 
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