Rodney Purvis would be entering his junior year | Page 2 | The Boneyard

Rodney Purvis would be entering his junior year

Status
Not open for further replies.
mauconnfan said:
Good post but I will have to disagree slightly with one comment…….DHam is not "skinny" he's has a very nice basketball body for this age with room to mature. He is bigger than Rip was as a freshman and almost as big as he was when he left at this point and he is certainly stronger looking than DD was for his first 2 years at least………..

But I agree, one more 5th year or other surprise and they have a chance to be pretty good and potentially better, although Bazz is tough to replace.
Expand ...
he is skinny he shouldn't play 4, but it looks like he will be forced to play at least 3
 
It all depends on how Boat does running the team and distributing the ball. He certainly has the heart and intensity to be the leader. His ability to be THE PG will determine our fate.

As things stand, I think we will be worse than last year at the 1 and 4. The 5 will improve by maturity. Can Hamilton & Omar give us an improvement at the 3 over Kromah, slumping Omar and partial Giffey? Will Purvis and Sam Jr improve over what Boat gave us at the 2?

There are a lot of points and rebounds to make up for, as well as the magic of Shabazz. So while we will have more talent on the bench, we have a lot to overcome. I'm still hoping we get some help for the front court for next year.

It is quite a puzzle and I will be interested to see how Ollie handles this. I don't think we're doomed but I don't think we are better than last year.
 
.-.
jazyj said:
he is skinny he shouldn't play 4, but it looks like he will be forced to play at least 3
Expand ...

Forced to play the 3? He is a 3……….he's too "skinny" to play the 4, heck Nolan is too, but he's fully capable of the 3. Skill wise he's the best 3 we've had in a while coming in………long while.
 
mauconnfan said:
Forced to play the 3? He is a 3……….he's too "skinny" to play the 4, heck Nolan is too, but he's fully capable of the 3. Skill wise he's the best 3 we've had in a while coming in………long while.
Expand ...
Your right. That's saying something with all the great 3s that went here. Deandre.. Roscoe.. Stanley.. Rudy.. Caron...
 
LIUCHusky said:
Roscoe? How about Ray Allen and Rip Hamilton.
Expand ...
They aren't 3s. They play the 2. I'm talking about true 3s. Not guys who just played it while they were here.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
They aren't 3s. They play the 2. I'm talking about true 3s. Not guys who just played it while they were here.
Expand ...

What's the difference? We follow college basketball here, not the NBA. What position guys play in the League has no bearing on what position they play in college. That's the trap that JC fell into over his last few years here. He saw guys like Stanley Robinson and Roscoe Smith and said "those guys look like prototypical NBA 3's, therefore they must play the 3 here", despite the fact that they were woefully deficient in terms of basketball skill at the position.

In the college game, you need two ballhandlers, a wing, a forward (preferably versatile), and a big man.

In the NBA, you can get away with one stud ballhandler, uber-talented wings and forwards with size, and a big man.

In college, shoehorning a 6'8 athletic freak into the 3 position usually just ends up with you not having enough ballhandlers, perimeter skill, or quickness, unless said guy is a top-flight talent.
 
.-.
Tenspro2002 said:
What's the difference? We follow college basketball here, not the NBA. What position guys play in the League has no bearing on what position they play in college. That's the trap that JC fell into over his last few years here. He saw guys like Stanley Robinson and Roscoe Smith and said "those guys look like prototypical NBA 3's, therefore they must play the 3 here", despite the fact that they were woefully deficient in terms of basketball skill at the position.

In the college game, you need two ballhandlers, a wing, a forward (preferably versatile), and a big man.

In the NBA, you can get away with one stud ballhandler, uber-talented wings and forwards with size, and a big man.

In college, shoehorning a 6'8 athletic freak into the 3 position usually just ends up with you not having enough ballhandlers, perimeter skill, or quickness, unless said guy is a top-flight talent.
Expand ...
The difference is that all the guys I just named were athletic 3s that could also play the 4 ala Daniel Hamilton. Ray and Rip were 2s that played the 3 in college.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
The difference is that all the guys I just named were athletic 3s that could also play the 4 ala Daniel Hamilton. Ray and Rip were 2s that played the 3 in college.
Expand ...

From what I have seen Hamilton is much closer to Ray/Rip than Daniels/Roscoe/Stanley/Gay in terms of skill, build and position. He's a likely 2 in the NBA unless he grows, he's a prototypical UConn three or two. He might see minutes at the four out of necessity but does not fit the mold of the other guys you listed at all. Butler was much bigger, Gay and Robinson could jump out of the gym, Roscoe had zero SF skills and Daniels was much longer/taller.
 
caw said:
From what I have seen Hamilton is much closer to Ray/Rip than Daniels/Roscoe/Stanley/Gay in terms of skill, build and position. He's a likely 2 in the NBA unless he grows, he's a prototypical UConn three or two. He might see minutes at the four out of necessity but does not fit the mold of the other guys you listed at all. Butler was much bigger, Gay and Robinson could jump out of the gym, Roscoe had zero SF skills and Daniels was much longer/taller.
Expand ...
In terms of skill yes. He has the physical build of a 3 though with his size and length that's similar to the 3s that came before him. We did say at the beginning of the conversation that he was the most skilled out of the group.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
They aren't 3s. They play the 2. I'm talking about true 3s. Not guys who just played it while they were here.
Expand ...

Deandre wasn't much of a 3, Roscoe certainly wasn't a 3 and was never going to be………Caron and Rudy yes, Stanley not so much either. As I said it's been a while…….
 
Tenspro2002 said:
What's the difference? We follow college basketball here, not the NBA. What position guys play in the League has no bearing on what position they play in college. That's the trap that JC fell into over his last few years here. He saw guys like Stanley Robinson and Roscoe Smith and said "those guys look like prototypical NBA 3's, therefore they must play the 3 here", despite the fact that they were woefully deficient in terms of basketball skill at the position.

In the college game, you need two ballhandlers, a wing, a forward (preferably versatile), and a big man.

In the NBA, you can get away with one stud ballhandler, uber-talented wings and forwards with size, and a big man.

In college, shoehorning a 6'8 athletic freak into the 3 position usually just ends up with you not having enough ballhandlers, perimeter skill, or quickness, unless said guy is a top-flight talent.
Expand ...

Not sure where you're going with this one. Roscoe played predominantly the four in his two years here. He would get a few token minutes to start the game at the three in '11, but the bulk of his minutes came at the four. In fact, that's why he transferred.

I do agree with you, though, that Rudy and Stanley should have played more four.
 
mauconnfan said:
Deandre wasn't much of a 3, Roscoe certainly wasn't a 3 and was never going to be………Caron and Rudy yes, Stanley not so much either. As I said it's been a while…….
Expand ...
Deandre was a 3. There was just not real4s to let him play 3 so he was forced into that position. If we had he uconn bigs of before he would've been on the peremiter. Same with Roscoe. Even though they didn't have the skill necessarily (especially Roscoe) they were prototypical 3s for their size like Daniel..
 
.-.
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Deandre was a 3. There was just not real4s to let him play 3 so he was forced into that position. If we had he uconn bigs of before he would've been on the peremiter. Same with Roscoe. Even though they didn't have the skill necessarily (especially Roscoe) they were prototypical 3s for their size like Daniel..
Expand ...

This is how it usually is in college. Donyell would play 5 on defense a lot because Calhoun couldn't go more than 4 minutes of Knight on the floor Knight's freshman and sophomore year without busting a gasket. Giffey was checking Randle on D in the NC game this year. Get your 5 best players on the court.
 
UConn990411 said:
A prototypical 3 would have the skill set necessary to play the 3...
Expand ...
No. Just because your 6'8 190 pounds with no handle doesn't mean you should bang down low either. But they do have the prototypical physical traits to play the 3 if developed right. We've seen guys those size play 4 here and we won championships like that but it wasn't by choice that those guys were playing 4.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
No. Just because your 6'8 190 pounds with no handle doesn't mean you should bang down low either. But they do have the prototypical physical traits to play the 3 if developed right. We've seen guys those size play 4 here and we won championships like that but it wasn't by choice that those guys were playing 4.
Expand ...
Uh, no. It means he has the size to play both forward positions, depending on the matchup. That makes him a tweener.

Roscoe is 22 years old, and he still hasn't developed a handle. That's kind of an important facet of having the skill set to be a prototypical 3 ... so it's pretty safe to say he will never be one.
 
UConn990411 said:
Uh, no. It means he has the size to play both forward positions, depending on the matchup. That makes him a tweener.

Roscoe is 22 years old, and he still hasn't developed a handle. That's kind of an important facet of having the skill set to be a prototypical 3 ... so it's pretty safe to say he will never be one.
Expand ...
Roscoe never developed right. He was brought in as a 3 and started as a 3 and then moved down to 4 because it was only Tyler at that position.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
No. Just because your 6'8 190 pounds with no handle doesn't mean you should bang down low either. But they do have the prototypical physical traits to play the 3 if developed right. We've seen guys those size play 4 here and we won championships like that but it wasn't by choice that those guys were playing 4.
Expand ...

A "3" really needs to be part guard and part forward/swing. A decent handle, pass the ball a little, some perimeter and mid range game while able to rebound it some. If he can't do most or all then he's either a 2/3 or a 3/4 and not a 3. Roscoe isn't close to a 3 and never was……..Deandre was closer but was a 3/4 combo or tweener………Omar is a 2/3 tweener still searching to add the passing and ball handling skills to find a number.

Then again they can just be basketball players and have 5 real good players on the court doing a little bit of everything.
 
.-.
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Roscoe never developed right. He was brought in as a 3 and started as a 3 and then moved down to 4 because it was only Tyler at that position.
Expand ...

How can you be a 3 Warrior if yiou can't pass, dribble or shoot it too good? He was never a 3………and he left wanting to be something he was never going to be! Took a year off at UNLV still couldn't do the things required of a 3…..this isn't hard!
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Your right. That's saying something with all the great 3s that went here. Deandre.. Roscoe.. Stanley.. Rudy.. Caron...
Expand ...
Honestly this is my original comment. When these guys go to the NBA they will play 3 no matter what position they played in college. Daniel Hamilton is the same way. Compared to Ray and Rip who went on to be 2s.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Honestly this is my original comment. When these guys go to the NBA they will play 3 no matter what position they played in college. Daniel Hamilton is the same way. Compared to Ray and Rip who went on to be 2s.
Expand ...

Roscoe's only shot would be a 4 though……he can't come close to a 3 in the NBA, not even within a mile…….and that's why Stanley isn't there. But you are right Rudy is a 3 and Caron is mostly a 3, although somewhat of a hybrid……..Ray and Rip both were 2/3 in the NBA depending on the teams lineups and DHam would seem to prototypical for sure……..
 
mauconnfan said:
Roscoe's only shot would be a 4 though……he can't come close to a 3 in the NBA, not even within a mile…….and that's why Stanley isn't there. But you are right Rudy is a 3 and Caron is mostly a 3, although somewhat of a hybrid……..Ray and Rip both were 2/3 in the NBA depending on the teams lineups and DHam would seem to prototypical for sure……..
Expand ...
He's probably going to have a similar career path of Stanley. If Roscoe had the bigs Stanley had he would've stayed at the 3 and have a similar career as a finisher around the rim, rebounder, and defender.
 
mauconnfan said:
Roscoe's only shot would be a 4 though……he can't come close to a 3 in the NBA, not even within a mile…….and that's why Stanley isn't there. But you are right Rudy is a 3 and Caron is mostly a 3, although somewhat of a hybrid……..Ray and Rip both were 2/3 in the NBA depending on the teams lineups and DHam would seem to prototypical for sure……..
Expand ...

In the NBA your position is about who you can guard, and Roscoe can definitely guard 3's. If he could shoot the ball a little better from three he could be a serviceable "3 and D" guy on a second unit.
 
johnhuskies95 said:
In the NBA your position is about who you can guard, and Roscoe can definitely guard 3's. If he could shoot the ball a little better from three he could be a serviceable "3 and D" guy on a second unit.
Expand ...

How is he getting his shot from the 3? Easily guard able without a handle and not a quick release - won't score from the 3 and can only rebound if under the basket……….I do agree he can guard 3's, quick and tough………but he's a 4 and I am unsure how he makes a roster……….would be very surprised with the small skill set………now if he can be a Rodman then maybe
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,318
Messages
4,563,031
Members
10,460
Latest member
SeanElAmin


Top Bottom