I watched him play in a lot games. It seemed that when I was growing up the Cubs were taking part in the game of the week a lot on Saturday afternoons. He just played the game hard and at a time when second basemen were more speedy guys, who could field but had weaker arms, he was a big offensive threat at the position. And he could obviously still field his position well with his multiple gold gloves. I think he won 8 or 9 by the time he was done.