based on vorp the two best players kemba ever played with on a per season based we’re Marvin Williams and josh mcroberts.
that’s impossibly bad supporting casts.
the overrating of kyrie is incredible.
2011-12- rookie season
Kyrie 2.1 VORP. No other player had a VORP above 0.8 and only 4 players other than Kyrie had a VORP over 0.0 with one being 0.1. The entire team (minus Kyrie) had a combined VORP of -1.9
Kemba led team with 0.3 VORP. One other player had a positive VORP.
The entire team (minus Kemba) had a combined VORP of -7.3.
2012-13
Kyrie VORP 2.8. No other player over 1.5 and only 2 over/at 1.0 VORP. 5 other players had a positive VORP maxing out at 0.3. The entire team (minus Kyrie) had a combined VORP of +0.9.
Kemba had a 2.5 VORP. Two players with positive VORP maxing out at 0.4. The entire team (minus Kemba) had a combined VORP of -4.8.
2013-14
Kyrie 3.3 VORP. One other player over 1 with a 2.1 VORP. Four other players with positive VORP. The entire team (minus Kyrie) had a combined VORP of +1.9.
Kemba was 3rd on the team with a 2.4 VORP. Mcroberts led team with 2.9 and Al Jefferson had a 2.5. Seven other players had a positive VORP maxing out at 0.8. The entire team (minus Kemba) had a combined VORP of +6.6.
So over their first 3 years Kyrie had 8.2 VORP while his teammates over that stretch had a +0.9 VORP.
Meanwhile Kemba had 5.2 VORP while his teammates over that stretch had a -5.5
VORP.
I'm not a Kyrie fan and a huge Kemba fan but it's indisputable Kyrie had a better first 3 years and career thus far. And its not like Kyrie had a great supporting cast during his first 3 years (prior to Lebron) even though he had a better cast over that span than Kemba but Kemba had the best team/supporting cast than any team Kyrie had during that 3 year span in 2013-14.
The hate people on this board give Kyrie is because they are Boston fans and adore Kemba