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A lot of different ways to determine what constitutes effective 3-pt shooting for a player. For some it’s all about shooting percentage. For others the question is does a player make shots in the biggest games or when a game is on the line? All such measures have merit when evaluating the effectiveness of a 3-pt shooter.

I will focus just on shooting percentage. While it’s great to have a player who can shoot 40%+ from the arc, for an effective shooting percentage of 60%+, there are very few players who ever reach that lofty plateau. IMO the cutoff for a “good 3-pt shooter” is right around 34%, for an effective shooting percentage of 51%.

On that basis, Paige, Christyn, Nika & Evina were all good 3-pt shooters last season. Hopefully, Azzi, Dorka, Caroline and perhaps other Huskies will give UConn an embarrassment of riches this season when it comes to 3-pt shooting.
 
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Good post.
I agree with some points, but not all. I don't think one or two years for Dorka makes any difference for Geno. This is this year's team and he is going to poke, prod and push buttons and get the best out of this team and not think about next year. You say "Azzi and Paige are locks." I agree. I think Azzi will start from game one. If she is 70% of what she is advertised as, she will be better than 95% of Div I players. She has that much potential. I think Geno has been deflecting light and attention from her to get her ready.

Evina? She will get her minutes and be a leader of this team. She will be on the floor during crunch time. Sometimes I think her most valuable role could be as 6th woman. Early fouls, poor play, something not working, E can come into the game and fix anything for positions 1-4. (In the old days of baseball, teams played their division rivals 18 times per year. Earl Weaver once said the toughest game to manage was against the Red Sox when Yastrzemski was on the bench. He could pinch hit at any time and hit a 3 run homer.) Evina can come into a game and create headaches. I think she has the majority and disposition to do whatever it takes.

Dorka & ONO? Dorka is battle tested. Three years in the Big 10 was way tougher & more physical than the American or BE. I would love ONO to have an All American type season, but is it in the cards? Dorka will get more minutes if she produces better.
Stats don't lie:

2020-21 season stats for ONO:
Tenn 7 pts 11 reb
ARK 2 pts 2 reb
SC 6 pts 7 reb
IOWA 4 pts 11 reb
Baylor 3 pts 8 reb
AZ 1 pt 6 reb
A comment on Liv’s stats. Liv’s scoring is her least important stat-line imo. She is usually the 4th or 5th scoring option on the floor for UConn. What is important is that Liv plays defense, rebounds, sets screens and passes the ball from the high post.

The Ark & AZ games were noteworthy exceptions because UConn had a distinct height advantage, so they tried to force the ball into Liv in the low blocks, which wasn’t effective.

Liv’s scores most effectively in transition, from 15’ or so if she’s left open, or off a teammate’s penetration and dish. She is not, nor ever will she be another Pheesa who’s array of low post moves were remarkable.
 
I do agree that Aubrey needs to get a midrange shot at least and be able participate in the offense. And what I am saying is that Aubrey and Mir need to do more than clean up the glass and get the ball and go to the rim. They need to learn how to be complete players and participate in working the ball around and getting to a great shot for someone else too....in my opinion.
Reading a lot of 'talk' about who's to play & who needs improvement! I say, that 'simply' put, their game performing actions, will dictate who plays & who sits. Only the 'best' to this 'Great Team' assembled by Geno!
 
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Oh please, Nika speaks English as well as anyone on the team born in the US. The demands are the same for UCONN players even if they were coming from Mars. The differences in the game are really minor.
The differences are not minor as you stated. FIBA and European basketball is much more physical both on offense and defense. The reffing is also different by allowing more flow of the game by not calling the little touch fouls that the NCAA calls. The lane and 3 point line are different as well as the shot clock situations.
 
The differences are not minor as you stated. FIBA and European basketball is much more physical both on offense and defense. The reffing is also different by allowing more flow of the game by not calling the little touch fouls that the NCAA calls. The lane and 3 point line are different as well as the shot clock situations.
:eek:You are probably right, if the differences were minor them surely Nika would have adjusted to this American game and become a UCONN starter by now? Nika is working very hard but can we stop trying to make it seem like she working harder and had more to overcome than any of the otherUCONN players.
 
:eek:You are probably right, if the differences were minor them surely Nika would have adjusted to this American game and become a UCONN starter by now?
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Nika in fact adjusted to this American game and become a UCONN starter, starting 15 games this past season?

For what it’s worth, in his comments before 1st Night, Geno stated that Nika is unlike any other player on this team. He then described her as “relentless.”
 
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Nika in fact adjusted to this American game and become a UCONN starter, starting 15 games this past season? For what it’s worth, in his comments before 1st Night, Geno stated that Nika is unlike any other player on this team. He then described her as “relentless.”
No need for correction except in your predictable eagerness to defend Nika you carelessly missed both my sarcastic emoji and my overly condescending tone. Other than that...
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Nika is not working harder than the other players on the team. Geno has been know to speak hyperbole.
 
In addition to all of your good points, I just want to add that she had more nagging injuries than most, and a significant number of her minutes were when she was not quite a 100%. Some of that is expected of course, but I think the odds of better health this year are pretty good.
Nagging injuries for Nika? When?
 
No need for correction except in your predictable eagerness to defend Nika you carelessly missed both my sarcastic emoji and my overly condescending tone. Other than that...
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Nika is not working harder than the other players on the team. Geno has been know to speak hyperbole.
Apparently, you missed my sarcastic tone. I apologize for not including an emoji ;) with my post.

I do agree that Geno can speak in hyperbole from time to time. But if you have not done so, I encourage you to listen to Geno’s remarks about Nika yesterday and decide for yourself if his remarks are hyperbole or a heartfelt assessment of a player who is giving her all.
 
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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Nika in fact adjusted to this American game and become a UCONN starter, starting 15 games this past season?

For what it’s worth, in his comments before 1st Night, Geno stated that Nika is unlike any other player on this team. He then described her as “relentless.”
I think Honey Badger would be a good nickname. for her.
 
Apparently, you missed my sarcastic tone. I apologize for not including an emoji ;) with my post.

I do agree that Geno can speak in hyperbole from time to time. But if you have not done so, I encourage you to listen to Geno’s remarks about Nika yesterday and decide for yourself if his remarks are hyperbole or a heartfelt assessment of a player who is giving her all.
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Geno made positive remarks about several players yesterday although I can understand why his remarks about Nika would stand out for you and the other Nika advocates. Geno clearly values having Nika on this team.
Has there ever been a player that Geno didn't value having on the team? AEH doesn't count.
Has there ever been a UCONN player that wasn't giving there all? Charde Huston?

“She’s made the strides that we need her to make," Auriemma said. "She knows how to play basketball. She’s a big body. She’s a big kid, and we certainly need that. So, hopefully, there’s something there. But I feel better about it than I did a month ago.”

- Geno Auriemma on Evelyn Adebayo's progress.
 
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Geno made positive remarks about several players yesterday although I can understand why his remarks about Nika would stand out for you and the other Nika advocates. Geno clearly values having Nika on this team.
Has there ever been a player that Geno didn't value having on the team? AEH doesn't count.
Has there ever been a UCONN player that wasn't giving there all? Charde Huston?

“She’s made the strides that we need her to make," Auriemma said. "She knows how to play basketball. She’s a big body. She’s a big kid, and we certainly need that. So, hopefully, there’s something there. But I feel better about it than I did a month ago.”

- Geno Auriemma on Evelyn Adebayo's progress.
So we agree that Geno’s remarks about Nika were not hyperbole. It’s good!
 
“See, look at Nika,” Auriemma says of sophomore Nika Muhl, the guard from Croatia. “She works to exhaustion, like, ‘I didn’t come all the way over here to be just average.’ ”

That sounds like one of the harder working people on the team. Geno hasn’t talked about other players’ work ethic like that on this team, except for Paige he did say she probably works harder than anyone else (or something similar I believe).
 
So we agree that Geno’s remarks about Nika were not hyperbole. It’s good!
:eek: Nah we don't agree.
The part where Geno said Nika been in American for 18 Months and still thinks she never fouled anyone might have been hyperbole of the highest order.
 
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“See, look at Nika,” Auriemma says of sophomore Nika Muhl, the guard from Croatia. “She works to exhaustion, like, ‘I didn’t come all the way over here to be just average.’ ”

That sounds like one of the harder working people on the team. Geno hasn’t talked about other players’ work ethic like that on this team, except for Paige he did say she probably works harder than anyone else (or something similar I believe).
Nice try but that is simply not true. ....

Christyn takes great pride in her defense now and her rebounding, her ability to make a play for someone else, to see things.
"Just a whole litany of things that I've been hoping that Christyn would eventually acquire. She certainly found the perfect time to do that."



"People don't realize how hard she (Paige) works. She might work harder than anybody on the team. Lot of people out there think that she's just this cocky kid and talented.

 
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Nice try but that is simply not true. ....

Christyn takes great pride in her defense now and her rebounding, her ability to make a play for someone else, to see things.
"Just a whole litany of things that I've been hoping that Christyn would eventually acquire. She certainly found the perfect time to do that."



"People don't realize how hard she (Paige) works. She might work harder than anybody on the team. Lot of people out there think that she's just this cocky kid and talented.
How is your first quote talking about her work ethic at all? It just says that CW acquired things Geno was hoping she would. And your second quote I cited in my original statement.
I am not trying to be rude by why do you feel so strongly about discrediting how hard Nika works? That seems to be her best trait. In any group thing (jobs, sports) work ethic is going to be different from person to person.
 
How is your first quote talking about her work ethic at all? It just says that CW acquired things Geno was hoping she would. And your second quote I cited in my original statement.
I am not trying to be rude by why do you feel so strongly about discrediting how hard Nika works? That seems to be her best trait. In any group thing (jobs, sports) work ethic is going to be different from person to person.
So you don't think Christyn Williams had to work hard to improve her defense to be able to shut down Caitlin Clark in the 2nd half of a tournament game. What did you think happened- a fairy just sprinkled some dust on Christyn and she woke up playing like that on game day? ALL the players are working hard! It is insane that ya'll think Nika has a monopoly on hard work on a UCONN WBB team.
 
So you don't think Christyn Williams had to work hard to improve her defense to be able to shut down Caitlin Clark in the 2nd half of a tournament game. What did you think happened- a fairy just sprinkled some dust on Christyn and she woke up playing like that on game day? ALL the players are working hard! It is insane that ya'll think Nika has a monopoly on hard work on a UCONN WBB team.
I never said that at all! You’re twisting what I’m saying to try to prove a point that I’m not even making. Yes I do agree totally they all work hard, regardless Geno hasn’t talked about others on this team’s work ethic the way he has Nika’s (besides Paige) and you haven’t posted anything that proves different.
 
I never said that at all! You’re twisting what I’m saying to try to prove a point that I’m not even making. Yes I do agree totally they all work hard, regardless Geno hasn’t talked about others on this team’s work ethic the way he has Nika’s (besides Paige) and you haven’t posted anything that proves different.

“Rarely one to rave about freshmen, Auriemma said last month that Aaliyah, along with fellow freshman Nika Muhl, “play Connecticut-basketball hard.” It was perhaps the best compliment he could give a player, and the best one Aaliyah could hear about herself.”

 
“Rarely one to rave about freshmen, Auriemma said last month that Aaliyah, along with fellow freshman Nika Muhl, “play Connecticut-basketball hard.” It was perhaps the best compliment he could give a player, and the best one Aaliyah could hear about herself.”

You are unbelievable. Any time anyone on the Boneyard has any praise for Nika Muhl, it is like clockwork that you will come back with a "Nika Cheerleader" comment discounting that she brings anything positive to the table. Once even, it would be refreshing ( and shocking!) if you actually praised anything that she has done or positive qualities she possess. In Geno's pre-first night presser he (paraphrasing) said that 'Nika brings a physical toughness that no one else on the team does, she is relentless and he loves that about her'. He has expressed similar sentiments when he recruited her, preseason last year and right through his comments about not having her 100% for the Arizona game. So your arguments as to why she is undeserving of some praise should rightly be directed at him not those of us that agree with his assessment.

He, nor I would venture to guess, any of those who have made comments appreciating what she brings to the team, believe she is the most talented player on the team but as with Kelly Faris, he loves how hard she works, her hard nosed toughness, relentless play and team first attitude. I believe just as with Kelly he will always find minutes for her.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if you believed that Nika being at UCONN was part of the college admissions scandal and that Darko slipped somebody a few bucks to get her a scholarship! (sarcasm intended).
 
You are unbelievable. Any time anyone on the Boneyard has any praise for Nika Muhl, it is like clockwork that you will come back with a "Nika Cheerleader" comment discounting that she brings anything positive to the table. Once even, it would be refreshing ( and shocking!) if you actually praised anything that she has done or positive qualities she possess. In Geno's pre-first night presser he (paraphrasing) said that 'Nika brings a physical toughness that no one else on the team does, she is relentless and he loves that about her'. He has expressed similar sentiments when he recruited her, preseason last year and right through his comments about not having her 100% for the Arizona game. So your arguments as to why she is undeserving of some praise should rightly be directed at him not those of us that agree with his assessment.

He, nor I would venture to guess, any of those who have made comments appreciating what she brings to the team, believe she is the most talented player on the team but as with Kelly Faris, he loves how hard she works, her hard nosed toughness, relentless play and team first attitude. I believe just as with Kelly he will always find minutes for her.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if you believed that Nika being at UCONN was part of the college admissions scandal and that Darko slipped somebody a few bucks to get her a scholarship! (sarcasm intended).
What is so hard to believe? I never said Nika was underserving of praise quite the contrary. What I stated was that All the players are working hard. I don't think Nika would be part of an admissions scandal-no sarcasm intended or implied. Nika is no Kelly Faris so please dismiss that though as well.
 
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What is so hard to believe? I never said Nika was underserving of praise quite the contrary. What I stated was that All the players are working hard. I don't think Nika would be part of an admissions scandal-no sarcasm intended or implied. Nika is no Kelly Faris so please dismiss that though as well.
Was Faris as a freshman better than Muhl was as a freshman? I remember when I asked why UConn needed Muhl when they had Coombs and you said only positive things about Muhl. They were both good on defense but not accurate outside shooters. Muhl surprised me with her outside shooting last season. It was better than I thought it would be.
 
In discussing Nika Muhl's work ethic or faults please remember Svet Abrasimova.
Svet was 16 or 17 when she came to the USA from Russia to join the UCONN WBB program.
If I remember correctly Svet was a stubborn player that fought Geno tooth and nail at every turn! Nika last year was as stubborn as Svet!
Nika has met almost all the challenges that Svet faced in a world that is now entirely different than when Svet was a freshman!
Nika has acclimated herself amazingly well with all the challenges and is a good student and carries herself very well!
If a member of UCONN's men's team said the same thing about the Arizona game he would be called a hard-nosed competitor and nothing more would be made of it! But Nika's "old world/European" values is looked on as a sore loser or immature.
Before she leaves UCONN she will have shined brightly both as a student and a WBB player!
 
In discussing Nika Muhl's work ethic or faults please remember Svet Abrasimova.
Svet was 16 or 17 when she came to the USA from Russia to join the UCONN WBB program.
If I remember correctly Svet was a stubborn player that fought Geno tooth and nail at every turn! Nika last year was as stubborn as Svet!
Nika has met almost all the challenges that Svet faced in a world that is now entirely different than when Svet was a freshman!
Nika has acclimated herself amazingly well with all the challenges and is a good student and carries herself very well!
If a member of UCONN's men's team said the same thing about the Arizona game he would be called a hard-nosed competitor and nothing more would be made of it! But Nika's "old world/European" values is looked on as a sore loser or immature.
Before she leaves UCONN she will have shined brightly both as a student and a WBB player!
lol wow, you really turned someone being a sore loser into a gender and what country they are from? Feel sorry for you for believing that is why people called her out on it. If a man, let me use your logic "if an american man" said what she said there's nobody that would call him a competitor. I didn't hear Mahomes cry after the sb loss because he had 4 of his 5 offensive linemen out. He took it on the chin and gave credit TB for winning that Super Bowl. This is the type of stuff Coco brings up tho, that Nika is overprotected for things that any other female would do they would just be routine, but because she is from "another country" as you say we have to overvalue it. Everyone gets treated fairly on this roster no matter where you come from.
 
lol wow, you really turned someone being a sore loser into a gender and what country they are from? Feel sorry for you for believing that is why people called her out on it. If a man, let me use your logic "if an american man" said what she said there's nobody that would call him a competitor. I didn't hear Mahomes cry after the sb loss because he had 4 of his 5 offensive linemen out. He took it on the chin and gave credit TB for winning that Super Bowl. This is the type of stuff Coco brings up tho, that Nika is overprotected for things that any other female would do they would just be routine, but because she is from "another country" as you say we have to overvalue it. Everyone gets treated fairly on this roster no matter where you come from.
jchuskie, WHOA big Fella! I was just saying to cut her some slack she's doing the best she can!
I know no one is treated different in Geno's program.
You're making a mountain out of a mole hill!
She was upset with the loss to Arizona because UCONN played their worst game of the season at the worst time!
Chill please!
 
I am in the middle of the Nika discussion. Last year, she joined a team that needed another true point guard and high intensity defender. This year, we have depth in every position. Nike improved her 3 point shooting more than anyone I remember on UCONN, but cannot create her own shots. As an offensive player, she will likely be in the middle of the pack this year. She physically hammers the person she is guarding, but picks up unnecessary fouls and doesn't have the foot speed to guard quicker players. Geno loves her energy but suspect that a healed Evina, a physical Edwards, a hot shooting Azzi, etc. will generate more that what is needed to motivate this team. Top 8 player, no brainer. Someone who starts in beginning of the year, probably. Likely to lose minutes as the year goes on and Azzi and others prove themselves? This forecast gets my vote.
 


Just to get the whole picture, listen to Nika's whole interview about watching the Arizona game. I don't see her as a sore loser as some have characterized her, I see a passionate player who was extremely disappointed that her team didn't finish out the season the way she and her teammates had anticipated and worked towards. I am confident that she was not alone among her teammates in the way she felt (see CW's postgame interview, when she was asked how she felt, she looked at the guy in disbelief and said 'how do you think I felt'). Geno, teammates and Nika herself have said she has no filter, she says what she thinks. If you note, she was fed the line 'refuse', she picked up on it and then finished her thought, which ended that she will eventually watch it. You might also note that the last thing she said was 'they were just better than us'. Doesn't sound like a sore loser but rather a very disappointed passionate teammate.
 
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