You are definitely right-AA level is too high. If ONO was playing at a First Team all BE level Dorka would be a distant after thought for UCONN and UCONN fans would not be as salty that Boston is an actual AA playing in SC.
I think you are getting tied up in the semantics. I said "brought in" first. Brought in, recruited; same thing no matter who initiates contact. And comparing bringing in a senior to normal HS recruiting is nonsense, as is saying Dorka is filling the spot of a player that couldn't get off the bench. She was brought in to help improve the position Ono plays. And I have no clue what you are talking about with your AA stuff. I think all that Sina music is affecting your brain.
The only hyper inflation is your posts, but when called out you try to make it the other person. Everyone had a bad game or two last year. Sometimes they had more than one player have a bad game, like the Arkansas and Arizona games, but the only one you have ragged about has been Liv. I didn't see you blame Paige for the loss to Arizona even though she had one of the worst shooting nights. You didn't blame any of the guards for the loss to Arkansas, even though 82 of the 90 points were scored by the guards. You blame Liv for getting in foul trouble in the SC game, but at least 2 of the 4 fouls that were called were iffy at best because all of a sudden the refs started calling the so called illegal blocks because of the legs being too far out. Dee Kantner is the one that called most of those and she has always appeared to be, "in my opinion" biased against UConn. Even Geno stated that he didn't like those calls and said that they affected the game.
Exactly! Like I would rather people just say they don’t like Liv at this point than to make excuses lol
The bold red is your earlier quote that I was talking about, but I guess your age must be affecting your brain because you only posted an hour and a half earlier than the post that you have no clue what I was talking about.
By this logic Geno brought in Natalie Butler during the Stewie era… did he over recruit Tuck and Stewie? Lol
It's not a matter of not liking Liv. She can only do what she can do and I don't doubt her effort. My issue is the Yarders here going to great lengths to ignore what is right in front of them. Ono might make the leap this year to be the player they say she is, but I'm thinking that's not the way to bet and so did Geno.
My point primarily is that Dorka wouldn’t be turned away if Liv was more talented. We definitely need her either way. But Geno said Dorka really wanted to come to UConn, do you guys think he should have just said no if Liv was at the needed talent level.
Sorry. The thought was totally disconnected from your point . Just reminded of it with all the SCar talk.
The recruiting strategy has changed I agree with you. Let me flip that for a second with an honest question: Do you believe Dorka would have even considered UCONN had Liv been playing at AA level and especially considering the promise that Aaliyah displayed as a freshman? I don't because under those circumstances Dorka would be looking at deep back up minutes similar to Natalie Butler. As things stand right now Dorka will play a lot and that is directly attributable to ONO lack of development-as much as some don't want to admit it.
Yep. Probably should not have copied the prior post to add on my mostly unrelated thoughts.
I do understand what you’re saying and that’s a hard hypothetical question to which I don’t have an answer because I genuinely don’t know. I’m sure that did contribute to her wanting to come to Uconn under the premise she would get more playing time.
Go back and watch the SC game, there at least 4 screens that were called illegal blocks because of the feet being too far apart. Geno even had comments about it and thought they were bad calls. The announcers even said something about Dawn yelling at the refs about them and lough and behold they start getting called. So yes I do blame the refs for some of the calls that Liv got. In no other game was those illegal screens called out like the SC game, even though they were doing the same thing.First hyper inflation and now enabling by blaming the refs for Liv's foul troubles.
That is, with qualifications, a valid point. However, I think it's more subtle than the dichotomy that you have described.
Uhm... not exactly. Natalie joined a UCONN roster that included 4 Freshman who were either wings or guards and more significantly included two walk on players which only brought the roster to 12. Morgan Tuck had also had missed the majority of the prior season as a medical redshirt. The next UCONN class when Natalie was finally eligible would included 3 SF size players and Kiah Stokes as a senior and Natalie was only a sophomore by eligibility standards. Natalie did not turn out to be the "game changer" as Geno had predicted. UCONN overcame Natalie's early departure and lack of development by converting two of those SF/wing players into AA Post players. By contrast Dorka was the 14th person added to the roster which included no walk on players, 0 AA Post players, and by eligibility standards Dorka is a senior by eligibility.
Why not? Dorka was brought in because Geno felt she could help the team get better. I would be willing to bet that, if the situation were reversed and Dorka were the UConn starter and Liv the transfer, he would have taken Liv as well. Skilled 6’5” post players with good character, sound academics, and a strong work ethic will always be in demand! Dorka is here to complement ONO, not to replace her!
Pointing out that Liv assisted on 6 of PB’s baskets is surely not intended to “inflate the contributions” of Liv over Paige! The point is that there are many ways to contribute to the overall success of the team beyond scoring. Clearly, ONO has had issues in big games. However, in this game she contributed more than her fellow Juniors so I’m a little uncertain why she is being singled out for this particular game?
Dorka is the 14th person added to a group of primarily underclassmen with no depth at which position… hmm.. I wonder which position we have no depth and experience at… can anybody guess.
They have no excuse just another way to point blame at Liv as if basketball is a singular game
You would think one bad call would have been enough to learn from and not repeat for a Junior UCONN player?
Wheres this energy for Evina and CW who were complete no shows in the game?
Actually the SC game was first brought up as an example of a "Big game" in which Liv played well. I believe she set a personal best for assist. Please note that my post began with "My POV" which is clearly different than yours. To expand on my POV-you can certainly point out that Liv had six assist in the SC game in a complementary way without stating that Paige could not have done what she did( 31 Points ) without Liv. Liv played in 69 NCAA games before Paige played in her first. I just think we have that equation (expectations?) backwards as in Liv should be doing more to help Paige than she did in this particular game specifically and for the entire season in general.
No energy required because Evina and CW do not have a "history" of foul trouble. Both Evina and Christyn played poorly in this game.