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Must you be an AA to be honored? I thought Crystal would get one. She had no real backup for her junior and senior years and I think she was outstanding.
 
My understanding is that you have to be a First Team All- American. I am not sure if it is AP or some other organization or either one.
 
BBallF said:
My understanding is that you have to be a First Team All- American. I am not sure if it is AP or some other organization or either one.
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AP for sure, but WBCA AA is also acceptable as with Morgan Tuck her senior year.
 
Any AA nod gets you on the wall. First or second team or 10 player teams. This same topic was debated amongst boneyarders during Kia Nurse’s time at UConn. Many posters felt like she deserved to be on the wall, but she had not made any AA teams.
 
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DeeHusky said:
Any AA nod gets you on the wall. First or second team or 10 player teams. This same topic was debated amongst boneyarders during Kia Nurse’s time at UConn. Many posters felt like she deserved to be on the wall, but she had not made any AA teams.
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Relative to Kia Nurse, I wouldn’t mind seeing NDPOY’s on the wall as well.
 
oldude said:
AP for sure, but WBCA AA is also acceptable as with Morgan Tuck her senior year.
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Going back to old threads, there was a post that quoted Doris Burke that there an unwritten( or maybe even written) rule that no more than 2 players from one team could be on the AP All American first team. Did the requirement as to first team AP change with Morgan Tuck because she was third man out on the AP teams but did make the WBCA team which has ten members? Either way, the Coaches poll is a much better barometer especially because when we have 3 All Americans on our team again very soon this will be a non-issue!
 
DeeHusky said:
Any AA nod gets you on the wall. First or second team or 10 player teams. This same topic was debated amongst boneyarders during Kia Nurse’s time at UConn. Many posters felt like she deserved to be on the wall, but she had not made any AA teams.
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I wonder if Kia continues to excel in international ball and the WNBA, if that may tip the scales in a somewhat borderline case in the future?
 
BBallF said:
Going back to old threads, there was a post that quoted Doris Burke that there an unwritten( or maybe even written) rule that no more than 2 players from one team could be on the AP All American first team. Did the requirement as to first team AP change with Morgan Tuck because she was third man out on the AP teams but did make the WBCA team which has ten members? Either way, the Coaches poll is a much better barometer especially because when we have 3 All Americans on our team again very soon this will be a non-issue!
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Tuck was not an AP 1st team AA. She was a WBCA 1st team AA. As you point out, the WBCA chooses 10 players to their AA team.
 
BBallF said:
Going back to old threads, there was a post that quoted Doris Burke that there an unwritten( or maybe even written) rule that no more than 2 players from one team could be on the AP All American first team. Did the requirement as to first team AP change with Morgan Tuck because she was third man out on the AP teams but did make the WBCA team which has ten members? Either way, the Coaches poll is a much better barometer especially because when we have 3 All Americans on our team again very soon this will be a non-issue!
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It has been 3 AAs on 1st team for a while. Just can't have more than 3.
 
cbraarj said:
It has been 3 AAs on 1st team for a while. Just can't have more than 3.
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The qualification for the wall is WBCA AA. UConn tries very hard NOT to be arbitrary with this honor.

The WBCA (Women's Basketball Coaches Association - Wikipedia) AA is sponsored by the NCAA. Each coach can nominate X (see below) players from his/her team for AA honors. Then a regional selection puts forward a number of candidates from these nominees. The "region" is not necessarily geographic and is composed of several conferences. The number of regional "nominees" for any one conference varies as to some formula so one region may get to put forward more "nominees" than another conference. Ten players for AA honors are selected from the regional "nominees".

Up until two years ago coaches were limited to three nominations. I think the limit is now four or more (which is how Muffett seemingly nominated her entire team the first year of the rule change.)
 
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oldude said:
Relative to Kia Nurse, I wouldn’t mind seeing NDPOY’s on the wall as well.
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Yes, I agree that such an honor, given to just one player each year, should be a sufficient achievement to merit a place on the UConn wall. Every NPOY, of course, earns All-American status but I believe it was @CocoHusky who pointed out that Nurse was the first NDPOY not to receive A-A accolades. UConn could mitigate that indignity by hanging her jersey on the wall.
 
mhshuskies said:
Will the Polish and Croatian flags be added in the future? If the Canadian flag is there for Kia, shouldn't there be a Russian flag for Svet?
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Yes, in your mind as in mine, if that’s what YOU wish.
 
eebmg said:
I wonder if Kia continues to excel in international ball and the WNBA, if that may tip the scales in a somewhat borderline case in the future?
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I think there are many UConn players whose jerseys may later be retired and she may be in that number which could then lead to the wall. Then again, I’d be crazy to think that...there would be no jerseys to wear if all the legends numbers were retired.
 
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DeeHusky said:
I think there are many UConn players whose jerseys may later be retired and she may be in that number which could then lead to the wall. Then again, I’d be crazy to think that...there would be no jerseys to wear if all the legends numbers were retired.
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The retirement of a number is more rare and a bigger honor I think than the wall. Never suggested Kia should have her number retired but if her case for the wall was "close", I think other substantial post graduate honors might go into tipping the scales
 
eebmg said:
The retirement of a number is more rare and a bigger honor I think than the wall. Never suggested Kia should have her number retired but if her case for the wall was "close", I think other substantial post graduate honors might go into tipping the scales
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If UConn was to do that they would have to consider others such as Asjha Jones who was a WNBA all-star and is part of a select group of players with NCAA and WNBA championships plus an Olympic gold medal. I think there are 6 others from UConn who are part of this group (all 6 on the wall). Amazing to think of all the great talent that has come through the UConn program.
 
CTrefugee said:
The AA requirement is very good ( and smart) because it avoids judgement calls by coach that could be interpreted as insulting to non-recipients.
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I'm not arguing for an arbitrary system, only one that includes National Defensive Player of the Year and/or All-American as a requirement.
 
CocoHusky said:
Almost, CD is on that wall.
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I’m a proponent of having a rule and sticking to it, and making it more restrictive, not less. If everyone gets on the wall then it loses its meaning. But, that said, I think 11 national championships is good enough for to keep CD up there.
 
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j66kicker said:
I’m a proponent of having a rule and sticking to it, and making it more restrictive, not less. If everyone gets on the wall then it loses its meaning. But, that said, I think 11 national championships is good enough for to keep CD up there.
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I think her induction to the Women's Hall of Fame qualifies her.

the 95, 00, 02,03,04 teams are also on the Wall of Honor.
 
Golden Husky said:
I'm not arguing for an arbitrary system, only one that includes National Defensive Player of the Year and/or All-American as a requirement.
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the curious part about Nurse she may have never had the opportunity for WBCA AA. Coaches were only allowed to nominate 3 players for consideration. For Kia that would mean for her four years the nominees were most likely:
15- Moriah, Breanna, KML
16- Moria, Breanna, Morgan
17- KLS, Napheesa, Gabby
18- KLS, Gabby (Napheesa?)

only that one person in parens didn't make AA. I think Phee was most likely nominated but it could have been Kia.
 
CajunHusky said:
the curious part about Nurse she may have never had the opportunity for WBCA AA. Coaches were only allowed to nominate 3 players for consideration. For Kia that would mean for her four years the nominees were most likely:
15- Moriah, Breanna, KML
16- Moria, Breanna, Morgan
17- KLS, Napheesa, Gabby
18- KLS, Gabby (Napheesa?)

only that one person in parens didn't make AA. I think Phee was most likely nominated but it could have been Kia.
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I think just a little creative juggling would have gotten Kia on the wall. By Kia’s senior year 17-18 Napheesa, KLS & Gabby had already qualified to be on the wall. In her senior year Kia was NDPOY and I believe top 5 in 3pt shooting for the entire year. Napheesa was also having a down year by her own lofty standards and did not make WBCA AA. Creative would have been to make sure that Kia received the highest considerations among the 3 UCONN nominees or better yet have UCONN submit only two nominees ( Gabby and Kia) who happen to be seniors. The WBCA has historically favored seniors and defense more than the other awards. These Two UCONN players happen to be back to back DPOY.
 
Yes this comes up every year (at least recently).

Again there are 3 major groups/organizations that have AA lists. (a bunch of smaller irrelevant ones for this, also)

AP - does 3 (5 player) teams (1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team)
WBCA (Women's Basketball Coaches Assoc) - does 1 (10 player) team (1st team)
USBWA (United States Basketball Writers Assoc) - does 1 (10 player) team (1st team)

UCONN states 1st team AA. (nowhere have I read what specific organization(s) that means)

From history, if you are on the 1st team AP list, you'll be on the WBCA list. We can assume if you make either one of them you're on the wall. We have never had anyone make the USBWA list and not be on the WBCA list, so we have no proof that one would also count. However, in UCONN's Media Guide, they list AP, WBCA and USBWA AA's. So I would assume, making any of the 3 (1st team) would count.

Here is the list of Wall of Honor Players

Kerry Bascom
Rebecca Lobo - 2 time/NPOY
Jennifer Rizzotti - 2 time/NPOY
Kara Wolters - 2 time/NPOY
Nykesha Sales - 2 time
Svetlana Abrosimova - 3 time
Shea Ralph
Sue Bird - NPOY
Swin Cash
Diana Taurasi - 3 time NPOY
Renee Montgomey - 2 time
Tina Charles - 2 time NPOY
Maya Moore - 4 time NPOY
Bria Hartley - 2 time
Stefanie Dolson - 2 time
KML - 2 time
Breanna Stewart - 3 time NPOY
Moriah Jefferson - 2 time
Morgan Tuck
KLS - 3 time
Napheesa Collier - 2 time
Gabby Williams - 2 time
 
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At any rate, Crystal SHOULD make an All-American team or four or five this year, no?

I mean, come on!
 
DeeHusky said:
I think there are many UConn players whose jerseys may later be retired and she may be in that number which could then lead to the wall. Then again, I’d be crazy to think that...there would be no jerseys to wear if all the legends numbers were retired.
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Have you been to Gampel recently and looked at the numbers on the wall? We are running out of room! (admittedly, a wonderful problem to have).
 
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