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CamrnCrz1974 said:
Disagree on Diggins. She has to adjust to not having some very talented teammates around her who allowed her to be a scorer and distributor. She will need to be a true playmaker more this year, especially for her teammates. While I think she will have a very good year, I think you might see her on the Second Team, rather than the First.
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She's too pretty not to be on the first team.

I think the five best players will be BG, EDD, Stewart, Sims and Diggins. I doubt that is what the first team will look like, but I think those may be the top 5.
 
UcMiami said:
I think by the end of their respective freshman seasons both Maya and Diana had become the go to players though they certainly didn't start the years in that fashion.
I also think Uconn's offense is such that a go to player is not necessarily the one to take the shot, but needs the offense to go through them on a critical offensive set.
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Whoa, even in Diana's soph season, she was surrounded by 4 1st round draft picks (to come).
 
easttexastrash said:
She's too pretty not to be on the first team.

I think the five best players will be BG, EDD, Stewart, Sims and Diggins. I doubt that is what the first team will look like, but I think those may be the top 5.
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If those are the 5 best..... I assume Williams, Gray, Thomas, Chiney O, and maybe Hill are the second 5 ??
 
wire chief said:
Whoa, even in Diana's soph season, she was surrounded by 4 1st round draft picks (to come).
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Yes - but there is a reason why 0 for 14 sunk the team in her freshman year. By the tournament with the injuries to the seniors, Diana was the one who was first option. And by her second year, in the final, the play call was a clearout for DT to go one on one.
And I disagree - Maya's freshman year (again, after the injuries) she was definitely the go to player - Tina was still not playing consistent ball (and wouldn't for another half season) and while Rene might take clutch shots in games, the set offense was being run for Maya to catch and 1) shoot, 2) feed Tina if covered, or 3) feed back to Rene. Check the tape.
 
This upcoming UConn team is going to have a go-to player or two. Who that player/those players are will depend on how the season progresses. That pecking order of who steps up on the extremely rare occasion when things aren't going well is the one real outstanding question for 2012-13.

Last year, UConn didn't really lose five games because of a lack of a go-to player so much as they played five games against teams that were a bit better (and lost four of those games, with a fluky loss to St John's thrown in there for good measure). Next season, the core of Stef, Bria, and KML will all be improved, with Kelly being a rock as well and Caroline giving everything she has left to give. Throw in likely improvement Kiah, possible improvement by Brianna, and a much ballyhooed recruiting class, and UConn is appreciably better than any team other than Baylor. I really don't see how UConn loses any games against other opponents, but hopefully a tight moment or two thrown in there, maybe against Stanford, Duke, A&M, ND, or Baylor in Hartford, will allow UConn's identity to be firmly established heading into the business end of the season.
 
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alexrgct said:
This upcoming UConn team is going to have a go-to player or two. Who that player/those players are will depend on how the season progresses. That pecking order of who steps up on the extremely rare occasion when things aren't going well is the one real outstanding question for 2012-13.

Last year, UConn didn't really lose five games because of a lack of a go-to player so much as they played five games against teams that were a bit better (and lost four of those games, with a fluky loss to St John's thrown in there for good measure). Next season, the core of Stef, Bria, and KML will all be improved, with Kelly being a rock as well and Caroline giving everything she has left to give. Throw in likely improvement Kiah, possible improvement by Brianna, and a much ballyhooed recruiting class, and UConn is appreciably better than any team other than Baylor. I really don't see how UConn loses any games against other opponents, but hopefully a tight moment or two thrown in there, maybe against Stanford, Duke, A&M, ND, or Baylor in Hartford, will allow UConn's identity to be firmly established heading into the business end of the season.
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Alex, you nailed it with the terms of "pecking order" and "identity." That was my who point. Every team needs a pecking order and does benefit by having someone step to the forefront and establish herself as the player that the rest of the team looks to for the big shots.
 
easttexastrash said:
Alex, you nailed it with the terms of "pecking order" and "identity." That was my who point. Every team needs a pecking order and does benefit by having someone step to the forefront and establish herself as the player that the rest of the team looks to for the big shots.
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And the Uconn pecking order should be Hartley and then Lewis. But by the end of the year? I suppose Stewart could be that player. But I'm not as sure are you are.
 
doggydaddy said:
And the Uconn pecking order should be Hartley and then Lewis. But by the end of the year? I suppose Stewart could be that player. But I'm not as sure are you are.
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If she is UCONN has hit the jackpot, which I suppose everyone knows that they have already. I just can't see Stewart being a "role player." She just seems too good to be that, even as a freshman.
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
Disagree on Diggins. She has to adjust to not having some very talented teammates around her who allowed her to be a scorer and distributor. She will need to be a true playmaker more this year, especially for her teammates. While I think she will have a very good year, I think you might see her on the Second Team, rather than the First.
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Could not agree more, Cam. Diggins will have to score much more and will have to be much more creative assist-wise than she has been so far in her career if ND is going to have a good season.. Point guards, even very good ones, struggle if they are forced into a primary scoring role.

She is not an AA lock at all IMO.
 
Diggins is a senior and that seems to increase the chances, especially if a player was an AA as a junior. I think she's a lock unless she really struggles, which I don't think she will against most teams.
 
Icebear said:
No, it was Rene.
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jdubct said:
She was primarily a 3 point shooter her freshman year.. Charles and Montgomery were the primary options with lots of shots left for Maya.
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meyers7 said:
No don't think so. As jdubct said, Charles and Montgomery (or probably Montgomery and Charles, in that order) where options ahead of Maya.
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Maya Moore, in her freshman year, was the leading score at 17.8 points per game and led the team in field goal attempts with 506 shots; Which was 142 more than Tina Charles and 38 more than Renee Montgomery. Of Maya's 506 field goal attempts, 174 were three pointers(34%). It is possible that Renee was the first option when the season started. In the Rutgers game that UConn lost at the RAC, late in the game with about 30 seconds left, UConn was down three and called a timeout. Out of that timeout, there was a turnover at the top of the key on a play obviously set up for Renee. Later that month against LSU down in Baton Rouge, UConn found themselves down 57-55 after a furious run by LSU. Out of the UConn timeout, the ball, this time, went to Maya. Among Coach Auriemma's post game comments was something to the effect that it appears that they have found their go to player.

It is hard to believe that your All American is not the primary option. As early as the aformentioned LSU game, a number of pundits, among them Carolyn Peck, had Maya Moore among the top three players in the country. Coach Auriemma both in this linked article and on his show was touting Maya Moore for Big East Player of the Year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/columns/story?columnist=voepel_mechelle&id=3264868
 
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IMO, if Stef doesn't improve her rebounding skills she will be pushed hard for PT by Kiah.

I continue to feel that Morgan and Moriah will be important contributors to our success next season.

It surprises me that so many BYs expect that Breanna will have a central and major role in UConn having a successful season.

Yet, she, like Morgan/Moriah, hasn't experienced a single official practice at UConn.

More realistically, IMO, we should hope that she is able to approach or equal KML's freshman year.

Peace,

John Fryer
 
easttexastrash said:
Diggins is a senior and that seems to increase the chances, especially if a player was an AA as a junior. I think she's a lock unless she really struggles, which I don't think she will against most teams.
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I have to agree, I don't see Skylar Diggins not being first team all-american as a senior.
 
John Fryer said:
IMO, if Stef doesn't improve her rebounding skills she will be pushed hard for PT by Kiah.
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Stef's rebounding is not a problem. She averaged 6 in 23 minutes per game. She, also, taps out and directs numerous rebounds to players in better locations on the floor. Can she improve, of course. Will others make significant contributions, absolutely. Stef's rebounding, however, is not a problem.

We averaged 42 rebounds per game while having a tremendous shooting %. Rebounding was not a team problem either as we had a 10+ rebound per game advantage.
 
VAUConnFan said:
Maya Moore, in her freshman year, was the leading score at 17.8 points per game and led the team in field goal attempts with 506 shots; Which was 142 more than Tina Charles and 38 more than Renee Montgomery. Of Maya's 506 field goal attempts, 174 were three pointers(34%). It is possible that Renee was the first option when the season started. In the Rutgers game that UConn lost at the RAC, late in the game with about 30 seconds left, UConn was down three and called a timeout. Out of that timeout, there was a turnover at the top of the key on a play obviously set up for Renee. Later that month against LSU down in Baton Rouge, UConn found themselves down 57-55 after a furious run by LSU. Out of the UConn timeout, the ball, this time, went to Maya. Among Coach Auriemma's post game comments was something to the effect that it appears that they have found their go to player.

It is hard to believe that your All American is not the primary option. As early as the aformentioned LSU game, a number of pundits, among them Carolyn Peck, had Maya Moore among the top three players in the country. Coach Auriemma both in this linked article and on his show was touting Maya Moore for Big East Player of the Year.)
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Nice argument, but I'll stand by what I said. Montgomery, Charles, Moore.

(by the way "go to player" and "first option" are not the same)
 
John Fryer said:
IMO, if Stef doesn't improve her rebounding skills she will be pushed hard for PT by Kiah.
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We'll have to see how Kiah recovers from her surgery. Hopefully that doesn't push her back. And with Stef as good as she is, having Kiah pushing her for PT would be a great thing.

John Fryer said:
I continue to feel that Morgan and Moriah will be important contributors to our success next season.
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Let's hope so.

John Fryer said:
It surprises me that so many BYs expect that Breanna will have a central and major role in UConn having a successful season.

Yet, she, like Morgan/Moriah, hasn't experienced a single official practice at UConn.

More realistically, IMO, we should hope that she is able to approach or equal KML's freshman year.
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I think you underestimate Stewart. Don't think KML level here (i.e. Bird, Charles, Lobo), think DT or Maya level.
 
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