Realignment talks starting again...

[cbraarj]

The question is, how many more people in the NY area are going to watch football games because of the new teams that UCONN would play? Do fans in NY really care about watching Texas, OU, Okie Lite or Baylor play, especially if those teams put a whooping on UCONN on a consistent basis?

I will Oklahoma fan since grammar school.That is just Football!

 

[iamcbs]

The University of Connecticut actually wins games. How's that for facts?

I guess $$$ mean more to you than embarrassment.

What does that even mean? UConn actually wins games, they're aren't even in the top 5 of the AAC in FB. That's a fact!!

 

[iamcbs]

UConn resides in the #30 media market in the country just ahead of Columbus OH and just below Nashville and San Diego hence my comment about it being in a bigger TV market than half of the P5 teams. In addition to that, Connecticut is also a small part of the NYC media market. Drive northeast of campus and you will find yourself in the Boston media market which is #8. I thought TV markets were a consideration for this realignment thing at one point?

TY for the clarification, your comment makes more sense now.

 

[CocoHusky]

The question is, how many more people in the NY area are going to watch football games because of the new teams that UCONN would play? Do fans in NY really care about watching Texas, OU, Okie Lite or Baylor play, especially if those teams put a whooping on UCONN on a consistent basis?

I'm pretty sure UCONN football would be able to give Kansas a good game though.

 

[BigBird]

The B1G is about to sign its 2nd TV Contract with Fox Sports, it is projected to be over $500 million and around $44.5 million per school, by Commissioner Jim Delaney. If that's regret, please put me down for some.

I get what Butch is saying, I think. The B10 made a mistake when it selected Rutgers, and they know it. That they have made big TV money since then doesn't make it less of a mistake. It just eliminates the most feared consequence. But, there are other consequences. While Maryland has not been outstanding since the expansion, neither have they been an embarrassment. The same cannot be said of Rutgers. If Delaney and his massive ego had it to do over again, it might not be UConn that gets picked (who knows?), but I am of the opinion that Rutgers would not be the first choice.

 

[BigBird]

The concept of a NYC or NE market for CFB is a myth IMO. If you draw a 250 mile circle around NYC there is not a college football program (PSU?) that has perennially ranked in the top 20/25 of CFB or has figured in the National championship picture for how long? 30 years. 40 years. Never. If such a market exists it would have been highly exploited before now.

I don't agree. The media money game does not end with market size, but it does begin there. I'd rather have 2% of the NYC market than to have 85% of Rantoul, Illinois. Having potential access to a huge population is typically preferrable to a smaller one. Even if TV CFB is not a big draw in NY, as you claim, it does not mean that a conference would not enrich itself by going there. This is why media people look at both ratings and share statistics. They do not describe the same things.

I would also point out that you highlighted and disagreed with one-half of my statement, seeming to pass by the important second clause. The UConn name is known and appreciated in the NY region (right?), so if a conference absorbs UConn and goes into that market, they are certainly not starting from scratch. There is a known and appreciated anchor institution. That is an important consideration.

Where I would agree with you, I think, is that you consider the NYC market to be complex and not easily swayed. If that is your position, you are certainly right.

 

[BigBird]

The concept of a NYC or NE market for CFB is a myth IMO. If you draw a 250 mile circle around NYC there is not a college football program (PSU?) that has perennially ranked in the top 20/25 of CFB or has figured in the National championship picture for how long? 30 years. 40 years. Never. If such a market exists it would have been highly exploited before now.

I don't agree. The media money game does not end with market size, but it does begin there. I'd rather have 2% of the NYC market than to have 85% of Rantoul, Illinois. Having potential access to a huge population is typically preferrable to a smaller one. Even if TV CFB is not a big draw in NY, as you claim, it does not mean that a conference would not enrichen itself by going there. This is why media people look at both ratings and share statistics. They do not describe the same things.

I would also point out that you highlighted and disagreed with one-half of my statement, seeming to pass by the important second clause. The UConn name is known and appreciated in the NY region (right?), so if a conference absorbs UConn and goes into that market, they are certainly not starting from scratch. There is a known and appreciated anchor institution. That is an important consideration.

Where I would agree with you, I think, is that you consider the NYC market to be complex and not easily swayed. If that is your position, you are certainly right.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Rutgers also is in New Jersey and up here in the Northeast it is a hotbed for D1 football recruits.It is and only has been about football.If CBB had any pull do you really think the Big East would have broken up?The BE would have 7 of the 8 NC since 2013.It is all about FB.Yes Uconn made the Fiesta Bowl but lost by 40 to an average Oklahoma team by there standards..

First of all as someone that was at that game ,I want to clear up some of your ridicules trolling.
I was sitting in a section with mixed Oklahoma and UConn supporters
When the final qtr started we were down by 14 but driving deep into Oklahoma territory,A touchdown a that point would have put tremendous pressure on them and their fans were Squirming .We failed to convert and they scored and A pick six ended our hopes and made the final score less indicative of the game . We also had two other drives stopped one at their 20(Edsall probsbly should have taken the FG)
and on their one yard line late in the game.
Were they the better team ,of course ,they were, they were pre-season number one
They were the B12 champs and their QB was a future NF L er . They were also motivated by recent notable bad bowl performances
They had routed FSU by almost the same score as our game.
UConn's Jordon Toddman had more yards rushing than the entire Okla team
We had and incredible 495 yds of total offense. I don't know if you actually have any football knowledge but those numbers don't point to the game you mentioned especially since they were primarily accumulated when the game was still in reach.
Oklahoma late scores by their first team made the final look much more one sided thst if was.
Our lack of a top notch QB was the difference in the game.

 

[cbraarj]

Uconn played their A game and Oklahoma played their C game and still lost by 28 pts.You dont know me or what I know.So dont attack me personally because im right about realignment and you dont know what to say.By the way Oklahoma has been my favorite team since 1973.Every time there is talk about realignment people always think it has something to do with CBB and it doesnt.That is why Loiusville is in the ACC and Uconn is not.It is all about Football and always will be.

 

[Buzzyboy]

I will Oklahoma fan since grammar school.That is just Football!

Love the Sooner Boomers!

 

[Buzzyboy]

You just lack the basic understanding of what drives decision-making in the NCAA, look at the expansion/realignment over the past 5 years. UConn hasn't even been discussed by any conference and it's because their FB program isn't relevant. Your statement that Connecticut is in the top half of TV Markets is confusing, I don't know exactly what point you're attempting to convey. If you're saying that because it's in the NY/NJ market then I think I understand. Improve the FB program significantly, the way the WCBB has improved, and there will be opportunities.

What kind of program has Rutgers ever had? Aren't they in the Big 10 now. They've had access to a lot of talented athletes in New Jersey and yet, for all intents and purposes they've rarely been relevant in Division 1 football. Has there been any growth in their program since they've gotten in the Big 10 and what kind of support are they getting in their home state? Not a whole lot, from what I gather.

 

[Buzzyboy]

Uconn played their A game and Oklahoma played their C game and still lost by 28 pts.You dont know me or what I know.So dont attack me personally because im right about realignment and you dont know what to say.By the way Oklahoma has been my favorite team since 1973.Every time there is talk about realignment people always think it has something to do with CBB and it doesnt.That is why Loiusville is in the ACC and Uconn is not.It is all about Football and always will be.

UConn didn't play their A game but probably played better than you thought they were capable of and maybe UConn and their offense had something to do with the Sooners looking like they were playing their C game. More to do with your own perceptions on how the game would go though a couple of events late in the game turned a relatively close game into the point spread that you mentioned that suggested a blowout game.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Uconn played their A game and Oklahoma played their C game and still lost by 28 pts.You dont know me or what I know.So dont attack me personally because im right about realignment and you dont know what to say.By the way Oklahoma has been my favorite team since 1973.Every time there is talk about realignment people always think it has something to do with CBB and it doesnt.That is why Loiusville is in the ACC and Uconn is not.It is all about Football and always will be.

No one here thinks it has anything to do with CBB. What we think is that it can only help in some measurable way because what UConn has with respect to CBB (men's + women's) doesn't exist anywhere else on the planet. Football-wise, over the past six seasons UConn is 29-45 (.392) overall, 2-9 (.182) vs. ranked teams, and 7-13 (.350) vs. teams that are in P5 conferences today. Not a great football record, but I'm betting that if you look at the bottom of the P5 conferences there are teams as bad or worse over the same time period. Teams from schools not nearly as good academically as UConn and teams with a media market that is nowhere near the value of UConn's.

 

[j66kicker]

First of all as someone that was at that game ,I want to clear up some of your ridicules trolling.
I was sitting in a section with mixed Oklahoma and UConn supporters
When the final qtr started we were down by 14 but driving deep into Oklahoma territory,A touchdown a that point would have put tremendous pressure on them and their fans were Squirming .We failed to convert and they scored and A pick six ended our hopes and made the final score less indicative of the game . We also had two other drives stopped one at their 20(Edsall probsbly should have taken the FG)
and on their one yard line late in the game.
Were they the better team ,of course ,they were, they were pre-season number one
They were the B12 champs and their QB was a future NF L er . They were also motivated by recent notable bad bowl performances
They had routed FSU by almost the same score as our game.
UConn's Jordon Toddman had more yards rushing than the entire Okla team
We had and incredible 495 yds of total offense. I don't know if you actually have any football knowledge but those numbers don't point to the game you mentioned especially since they were primarily accumulated when the game was still in reach.
Oklahoma late scores by their first team made the final look much more one sided thst if was.
Our lack of a top notch QB was the difference in the game.

I was there (I'm an Oklahoma alumnus) and I wasn't squirming. I was wondering why UCONN got invited to the Fiesta Bowl in the first place.

 

[triaddukefan]

I was there (I'm an Oklahoma alumnus) and I wasn't squirming. I was wondering why UCONN got invited to the Fiesta Bowl in the first place.

Because the Big East was a joke that year in Football.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

I was there (I'm an Oklahoma alumnus) and I wasn't squirming. I was wondering why UCONN got invited to the Fiesta Bowl in the first place.

Ya too much alcohol will create a false aura of invincibility in some people.
Thank you for your interest in UConn Athletics and goodnight.

 

[cbraarj]

No one here thinks it has anything to do with CBB. What we think is that it can only help in some measurable way because what UConn has with respect to CBB (men's + women's) doesn't exist anywhere else on the planet. Football-wise, over the past six seasons UConn is 29-45 (.392) overall, 2-9 (.182) vs. ranked teams, and 7-13 (.350) vs. teams that are in P5 conferences today. Not a great football record, but I'm betting that if you look at the bottom of the P5 conferences there are teams as bad or worse over the same time period. Teams from schools not nearly as good academically as UConn and teams with a media market that is nowhere near the value of UConn's.

I think Uconn will get there and I really Like Diaco but If they continue to improve.How long will he stay at Connecticut?What happens if his school from the Big Ten comes calling?Remember Warde Manuel.Look what happened when Edsall left.You can blame the new coach but he did have a proven track record with Syracuse.Most wins in Big East history.Does he stay and brings the football team into a great football program like the 2 Hall of Fame Coaches that achieved that Or does he run like Edsall did.

 

[Adios]

What does that even mean? UConn actually wins games, they're aren't even in the top 5 of the AAC in FB. That's a fact!!

Yeah, right now. We have a 6-6 record vs oh-so-great Rutgers since going FBS. That's a fact. Another fact is you have Greg Schiano now, too.

Man, Ohio State fans... Enjoy your trips to New Jersey!

 

[CocoHusky]

Yeah, right now. We have a 6-6 record vs oh-so-great Rutgers since going FBS. That's a fact. Another fact is you have Greg Schiano now, too.
Man, Ohio State fans... Enjoy your trips to New Jersey!

Chances are OSU fans are going to enjoy their trips anywhere because they have a pretty good football team to watch when they get there.

 

[Adios]

If Delaney and his massive ego had it to do over again, it might not be UConn that gets picked (who knows?), but I am of the opinion that Rutgers would not be the first choice.

And you are not alone. Even amongst those who work for the Big Ten.

 

[Vowelguy]

I was wondering why UCONN got invited to the Fiesta Bowl in the first place.

UConn didn't get "invited". It earned its way by winning the Big East conference championship.

 

[Ozimoto]

But for the most part, the other "interested" teams offer something between decent and not-so-hot as football programs. Part of the discusssion will be about who is likely
to --become-- good soonest. Why not the Huskies in that case? And if it IS about money (and it is), UConn puts the B12 squarely in the NYC and NE markets, with one of most recognized brands in the East and elsewhere.

Yes, Baylor and Oklahoma will evicerate UConn is football... at first. There is no power conference in which similar football struggles would be absent. But that may not be the key criterion.

Actually, WVU has not been eviscerated by the football powers of the Big 12. True, they haven't competed for a conference title as of yet, but they aren't the conference door mats either. UCONN used to be a challenge for WVU when we played them. The huskies could be competitive fairly quickly. And remember, just about anyone can beat Kansas in football.

 

[Wally East]

I think Uconn will get there and I really Like Diaco but If they continue to improve.How long will he stay at Connecticut?What happens if his school from the Big Ten comes calling?Remember Warde Manuel.Look what happened when Edsall left.You can blame the new coach but he did have a proven track record with Syracuse.Most wins in Big East history.Does he stay and brings the football team into a great football program like the 2 Hall of Fame Coaches that achieved that Or does he run like Edsall did.

I mean this in a friendly way since I'm interested in reading what you have to say. Please, hit that space bar after typing a period. It will make your posts so much easier to read. (Same for question marks and exclamation points.)

Thanks

 

[BigBird]

Actually, WVU has not been eviscerated by the football powers of the Big 12. True, they haven't competed for a conference title as of yet, but they aren't the conference door mats either. UCONN used to be a challenge for WVU when we played them. The huskies could be competitive fairly quickly. And remember, just about anyone can beat Kansas in football.

I specified Baylor and Oklahoma. I said nothing about on-again-off-again WVU.

 

[southbendcane]

The ACC has been scared of UConn for 20 years now. What other school has won eight basketball titles during the Obama presidency? UConn has won half of the basketball titles over the last eight years. You think the ACC wants us throwing them out of their own party?

Sorry but i don't think the ACC is scared of U Conn. They added Louisville and Syracuse and they are great programs. U Conn men won a few titles but they have been up and down since Calhoun left The women's game has no factor in choosing a team to add to their conference . We all know women get a raw deal when it comes to these things. Football is and always has been the meal ticket and the Huskies football program is not very good. That is why U Conn ended up in the AAC to begin with. North Carolina and Duke are not afraid of U Conn in men's basketball trust me. Id love to see U Conn in the ACC. Their football program is no worse then a N.C. State Wake Fores or Boston College and their basketball programs are better. They need to be in a power conference. Not so much the women basketball program because they can play who ever they want pretty much. But for the men's football and Basketball program .

 

[SCGamecock]

Sorry but i don't think the ACC is scared of U Conn. They added Louisville and Syracuse and they are great programs. U Conn men won a few titles but they have been up and down since Calhoun left The women's game has no factor in choosing a team to add to their conference . We all know women get a raw deal when it comes to these things. Football is and always has been the meal ticket and the Huskies football program is not very good. That is why U Conn ended up in the AAC to begin with. North Carolina and Duke are not afraid of U Conn in men's basketball trust me. Id love to see U Conn in the ACC. Their football program is no worse then a N.C. State Wake Fores or Boston College and their basketball programs are better. They need to be in a power conference. Not so much the women basketball program because they can play who ever they want pretty much. But for the men's football and Basketball program .

I tend to agree with this. Geographically, culturally and athletically, the ACC is hands down the best fit for UCONN.. but at this point, that'll probably never happen.

If I had my way they'd be there.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Sorry but i don't think the ACC is scared of U Conn. They added Louisville and Syracuse and they are great programs. U Conn men won a few titles but they have been up and down since Calhoun left The women's game has no factor in choosing a team to add to their conference . We all know women get a raw deal when it comes to these things. Football is and always has been the meal ticket and the Huskies football program is not very good. That is why U Conn ended up in the AAC to begin with. North Carolina and Duke are not afraid of U Conn in men's basketball trust me. Id love to see U Conn in the ACC. Their football program is no worse then a N.C. State Wake Fores or Boston College and their basketball programs are better. They need to be in a power conference. Not so much the women basketball program because they can play who ever they want pretty much. But for the men's football and Basketball program .

I was half kidding, but seriously, the ACC is a basketball league. Why let a program in that's going to crash your party and then throw you out of it?

 

[triaddukefan]

Sorry but i don't think the ACC is scared of U Conn. They added Louisville and Syracuse and they are great programs. U Conn men won a few titles but they have been up and down since Calhoun left The women's game has no factor in choosing a team to add to their conference . We all know women get a raw deal when it comes to these things. Football is and always has been the meal ticket and the Huskies football program is not very good. That is why U Conn ended up in the AAC to begin with. North Carolina and Duke are not afraid of U Conn in men's basketball trust me. Id love to see U Conn in the ACC. Their football program is no worse then a N.C. State Wake Fores or Boston College and their basketball programs are better. They need to be in a power conference. Not so much the women basketball program because they can play who ever they want pretty much. But for the men's football and Basketball program .

I'll take up for my friends down in Raleigh. NC State definitely has a better football program than UCONN. They have a really nice stadium with great facilities...
They sell out most of their games... have a strong season ticket base.. and average close to 57,000 at home games, and they go to bowl games more often than not. Plus if you think about it..... a QB that barely got playing time at NC State... transferred to UCONN and became a starter last season. State's biggest problem is they play in the same division as Florida State, Clemson, and Louisville, and they play UNC every year. Plus this season they also play Notre Dame and Miami.

I'd say that Connecticut's program is about the same level as Syracuse..... I'd put them around 10th if they were in the ACC.

 

[HoopsFan21]

I'll take up for my friends down in Raleigh. NC State definitely has a better football program than UCONN. They have a really nice stadium with great facilities...
They sell out most of their games... have a strong season ticket base.. and average close to 57,000 at home games, and they go to bowl games more often than not. Plus if you think about it..... a QB that barely got playing time at NC State... transferred to UCONN and became a starter last season. State's biggest problem is they play in the same division as Florida State, Clemson, and Louisville, and they play UNC every year. Plus this season they also play Notre Dame and Miami.

I'd say that Connecticut's program is about the same level as Syracuse..... I'd put them around 10th if they were in the ACC.

The ACC has one program that is regularly relevant: FSU. Then there are a handful of other teams that make a little noise every 5-10 years. It's really not that great of a football conference. It doesn't have the tradition of the B1G, and isn't even on the same planet as the SEC. It's a league known for its basketball. If most of the teams in the P5 weren't grandfathered in, they'd be in the same boat as UConn trying to make their case based on things other than football.

 

[uconnell]

UConn didn't play their A game but probably played better than you thought they were capable of and maybe UConn and their offense had something to do with the Sooners looking like they were playing their C game. More to do with your own perceptions on how the game would go though a couple of events late in the game turned a relatively close game into the point spread that you mentioned that suggested a blowout game.

I always felt that Edsall stopped, or lost interest in, coaching the team in the second half. I was at the game also.

As for Pasqualoni, Syracuse fired him due to losing so many games, they also warned us about hiring him. Thanks Hathaway.