Realignment talks starting again...

[Kmoney]

I have a theory. I think one or two schools have gone to the B12 commissioner and said they were leaving the conference. They agreed to keep it quiet until replacement/additional schools are identified.

The reason I think this is because they just had a big meeting a few months ago and the conclusion was they would stand pat. Something is going on outside the public eye that would cause this quick turn around.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Can one of the moderator please move this thread to the realignment board. There are some very well informed posters over there than are more than willing to school us.

Mods should probably clear out every thread that starts with "OT."

 

[Kibitzer]

Despite the malfeasance of the Rutgers administration, do you believe that UCONN can create a better CFB product than Rutgers or Maryland?

Can UConn do it? Now, no. Ultimately, they must!

That's the formidable challenge facing AD Benedict and FB Coach Diaco. It's why they were hired.

 

[SCGamecock]

The concept of a NYC or NE market for CFB is a myth IMO. If you draw a 250 mile circle around NYC there is not a college football program (PSU?) that has perennially ranked in the top 20/25 of CFB or has figured in the National championship picture for how long? 30 years. 40 years. Never. If such a market exists it would have been highly exploited before now.

Also, a lot of the CFB fans in the NYC area aren't fans of Northeastern/New England schools...

 

[huskymedic]

... do you believe that UCONN can create a better CFB product than Rutgers or Maryland?

Put them on a level playing field with conference revenue/exposure/perception and there is no doubt they can, Outside of the Pasqualoni years/after effect - UConn football more than held their own on the field (and own wins against both).

 

[Adios]

I think the BIG 10 is quietly regretting it's choice of Rutgers as it's East Coast/NYC area representative! If they allow do-overs Big 10 might chose UCONN!

If we never go to the Big Ten, they will definitely regret it.

 

[cbraarj]

Rutgers also is in New Jersey and up here in the Northeast it is a hotbed for D1 football recruits.It is and only has been about football.If CBB had any pull do you really think the Big East would have broken up?The BE would have 7 of the 8 NC since 2013.It is all about FB.Yes Uconn made the Fiesta Bowl but lost by 40 to an average Oklahoma team by there standards..

 

[iamcbs]

My point was that P5 slots are valuable and are rarely available, not to mention there's theoretically a finite number of them, but most of them are taken by boat anchor schools that get those slots simply because they've been in the conference since the beginning of time and can't be kicked out. Put UConn in a P5 conference today and we're in the top half academically, top half in terms of TV markets, at the top in hoops, and there's a good chance we wouldn't be the worst football program. You don't think a conference commissioner would swap one of their deadbeat schools for us if it were possible? I guess I think too highly of UConn.

You just lack the basic understanding of what drives decision-making in the NCAA, look at the expansion/realignment over the past 5 years. UConn hasn't even been discussed by any conference and it's because their FB program isn't relevant. Your statement that Connecticut is in the top half of TV Markets is confusing, I don't know exactly what point you're attempting to convey. If you're saying that because it's in the NY/NJ market then I think I understand. Improve the FB program significantly, the way the WCBB has improved, and there will be opportunities.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Rutgers also is in New Jersey and up here in the Northeast it is a hotbed for D1 football recruits.It is and only has been about football.If CBB had any pull do you really think the Big East would have broken up?The BE would have 7 of the 8 NC since 2013.It is all about FB.Yes Uconn made the Fiesta Bowl but lost by 40 to an average Oklahoma team by there standards..

We lost the Fiesta Bowl 42-20, I believe. I love how people keep denigrating UConn football... as if we're 0-60 over the last five seasons. Did you know we've even beaten the mighty ND? Go look at the list of teams we've beaten. Lots of biiiiiiig P5 schools on that list. I'd say we would more than hold our own in a P5 conference because we've already beaten many of those teams we'd be playing against regularly. Also for such a crappy football program, it sure does put its share of players into the NFL. Go have a look at the list of schools with most alumni playing in the NFL.

 

[HoopsFan21]

You just lack the basic understanding of what drives decision-making in the NCAA, look at the expansion/realignment over the past 5 years. UConn hasn't even been discussed by any conference and it's because their FB program isn't relevant. Your statement that Connecticut is in the top half of TV Markets is confusing, I don't know exactly what point you're attempting to convey. If you're saying that because it's in the NY/NJ market then I think I understand. Improve the FB program significantly, the way the WCBB has improved, and there will be opportunities.

We get it, you dislike UConn. Go troll your own team's board.

 

[iamcbs]

If we never go to the Big Ten, they will definitely regret it.

The B1G is about to sign its 2nd TV Contract with Fox Sports, it is projected to be over $500 million and around $44.5 million per school, by Commissioner Jim Delaney. If that's regret, please put me down for some.

 

[UCONN in OKC]

Rutgers also is in New Jersey and up here in the Northeast it is a hotbed for D1 football recruits.It is and only has been about football.If CBB had any pull do you really think the Big East would have broken up?The BE would have 7 of the 8 NC since 2013.It is all about FB.Yes Uconn made the Fiesta Bowl but lost by 40 to an average Oklahoma team by there standards..

I was at that game, and it was closer than the score .... it was a final score of 48-20 and 14 of does point where crazy int. return for TD by OK

 

[iamcbs]

We get it, you dislike UConn. Go troll your own team's board.

So now facts=trolling?

 

[CocoHusky]

Put them on a level playing field with conference revenue/exposure/perception and there is no doubt they can, Outside of the Pasqualoni years/after effect - UConn football more than held their own on the field (and own wins against both).

But isn't putting the cart before the horse though? Before I put them in a conference with revenue sharing and level playing field don't they have to prove they can add something to that conference? The ACC snub might have been enemies of UCONN or politically driven. But the Big 10 doubled down on Rutgers and Maryland while bypassing UCONN. What accounts for these snubs?

 

[CocoHusky]

We lost the Fiesta Bowl 42-20, I believe. I love how people keep denigrating UConn football... as if we're 0-60 over the last five seasons. Did you know we've even beaten the mighty ND? Go look at the list of teams we've beaten. Lots of biiiiiiig P5 schools on that list. I'd say we would more than hold our own in a P5 conference because we've already beaten many of those teams we'd be playing against regularly. Also for such a crappy football program, it sure does put its share of players into the NFL. Go have a look at the list of schools with most alumni playing in the NFL.

I'm not trying to denigrate UCONN football but in a made for TV event, at Yankee's stadium, when you are trying to impress P5 commissioners, UCONN cannot lose to Army and expect to remain viable contender for a P5 conference.

 

[huskymedic]

But isn't putting the cart before the horse though? Before I put them in a conference with revenue sharing and level playing field don't they have to prove they can add something to that conference? The ACC snub might have been enemies of UCONN or politically driven. But the Big 10 doubled down on Rutgers and Maryland while bypassing UCONN. What accounts for these snubs?

You asked "do you believe that UCONN can create a better CFB product than Rutgers or Maryland". The answer is yes. The Rutgers/Maryland decisions were based on cable boxes and markets - not what happens on the court or on the field.

 

[cbraarj]

I know it was 48-20 and yes they lost to an average Oklahoma team by their standards.They have beaten some decent teams but they also lost a few to teams that they shouldnt have.This thread is about realignment and that means College Football.

 

[HoopsFan21]

You just lack the basic understanding of what drives decision-making in the NCAA, look at the expansion/realignment over the past 5 years. UConn hasn't even been discussed by any conference and it's because their FB program isn't relevant. Your statement that Connecticut is in the top half of TV Markets is confusing, I don't know exactly what point you're attempting to convey. If you're saying that because it's in the NY/NJ market then I think I understand. Improve the FB program significantly, the way the WCBB has improved, and there will be opportunities.

UConn resides in the #30 media market in the country just ahead of Columbus OH and just below Nashville and San Diego hence my comment about it being in a bigger TV market than half of the P5 teams. In addition to that, Connecticut is also a small part of the NYC media market. Drive northeast of campus and you will find yourself in the Boston media market which is #8. I thought TV markets were a consideration for this realignment thing at one point?

 

[Vowelguy]

The reason I think this is because they just had a big meeting a few months ago and the conclusion was they would stand pat. Something is going on outside the public eye that would cause this quick turn around.

The turnaround was the ACC announcement that it had a start date for its TV network. That will make the B12 the only P5 conference without its own network. To keep up financially, the B12 needs to expand.

 

[Adios]

The B1G is about to sign its 2nd TV Contract with Fox Sports, it is projected to be over $500 million and around $44.5 million per school, by Commissioner Jim Delaney. If that's regret, please put me down for some.

The University of Connecticut actually wins games. How's that for facts?

I guess $$$ mean more to you than embarrassment.

 

[j66kicker]

Houston & BYU win Big 12 football coaches poll for favorite expansion candidates. Each coach got 2 votes - for their #1 o& 2...

Houston -5
BYU - 5
Cincinnati - 4
Memphis - 4
Colorado State - 1
UCF - 1

UCONN - 0
USF - 0

ESPN poll: Big 12 coaches favor Houston, BYU

 

[ucbart]

The hiring of Paul Pasqualoni as the football coach officially sealed UCONN's fate as a mid major for forever and ever and all of eternity. That IMO, was the worst hire in the history of the UConn athletic department. Maybe they were desperate, but I would have gone with a young guy that had energy rather than a coach who ran the once proud Syracuse football program in the gutter. This recent news gives us hope, but don't kid yourselves. We aren't going to the Big 12, the B1G or the ACC. I think Diaco is great, but he was hired about 8 years too late. Enjoy the basketball success while it lasts....because once Geno and Kevin leave, the run is over. Sad but true folks.

 

[Kibitzer]

The turnaround was the ACC announcement that it had a start date for its TV network. That will make the B12 the only P5 conference without its own network. To keep up financially, the B12 needs to expand.

According to SI, B12 will definitely add two for sure and soon -- and possibly four.

UConn is apparently on the cusp if 2 are absorbed and in the mix if it's 4.

Lots of chicanery in play. It now -- finally -- appears likely that UConn will get a divorce from the dreaded AAC.

Where to? When? No one -- NO ONE! -- at this point knows. All conjecture by a host of speculators.

Stay tuned.

 

[TitleTown]

IMHO he only way that UConn will get out of the current mid major they are playing in is if FSU and Clemson leave the ACC for the SEC and the ACC essentially becomes a basketball first conference like the old Big East was.

 

[Vowelguy]

IMHO he only way that UConn will get out of the current mid major they are playing in is if FSU and Clemson leave the ACC for the SEC and the ACC essentially becomes a basketball first conference like the old Big East was.

The SEC has no interest in Florida St or Clemson, since neither bring new markets to the conference.

 

[UConnNick]

IMHO he only way that UConn will get out of the current mid major they are playing in is if FSU and Clemson leave the ACC for the SEC and the ACC essentially becomes a basketball first conference like the old Big East was.

FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere anytime soon due to the ACC's GOR. They're locked into that until sometime in the middle of the next decade.

Basketball is not going to overtake football as the biggest moneymaker for the P5 conferences, so if the ACC remains a P5, it's going to make its decisions about membership based only on football. The reason the old Big East doesn't exist anymore is because the leadership of that conference (Tranghese/Marinatto) stubbornly refused to acknowledge that it was all about football and nothing else, until it was way too late in the game. By then they had already alienated all of the football playing members. They put the interests of the small Catholic basketball schools ahead of everybody else because most of them had previously worked in the Providence College athletic dept. They were all motivated by doing what was best for PC and the other Catholic basketball schools. That's why UCONN is where we are now.

 

[HoopsFan21]

FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere anytime soon due to the ACC's GOR. They're locked into that until sometime in the middle of the next decade.

Basketball is not going to overtake football as the biggest moneymaker for the P5 conferences, so if the ACC remains a P5, it's going to make its decisions about membership based only on football. The reason the old Big East doesn't exist anymore is because the leadership of that conference (Tranghese/Marinatto) stubbornly refused to acknowledge that it was all about football and nothing else, until it was way too late in the game. By then they had already alienated all of the football playing members. They put the interests of the small Catholic basketball schools ahead of everybody else because most of them had previously worked in the Providence College athletic dept. They were all motivated by doing what was best for PC and the other Catholic basketball schools. That's why UCONN is where we are now.

The new ACC GOR locks those teams up until 2036, I believe.

 

[easttexastrash]

She's admitted that she has absolutely no fashion sense at all, and that it is her friends that lay out her outfits for her. NOW...she may need to look into some of these "friends"...

Personally, I relish the idea of a NC game, UConn vs Baylor, with Mulkey wearing the Lamé jacket!

Hopefully she will leave the tag on again so that Geno will have an excuse to help her remove it.

 

[easttexastrash]

Can one of the moderator please move this thread to the realignment board. There are some very well informed posters over there than are more than willing to school us.

And deny the WCBB fans the opportunity to discuss without football being the only point of view by which comments are generated? I like seeing how WCBB fans see all aspects of the realignment from a unique perspective.

 

[easttexastrash]

The TV sets in and around NYC/NE are perfectly cable of and already do broadcast college football, therefore there is no lack of product. Additional college football content from UCONN or Rutgers etc. does not create a new market it simply provides new product to a fixed market. Any new product must be competitive in the market. Competiveness =$$$ for product owners-which is why I say someone would have figured out (improved or created) such a product by now. Despite the malfeasance of the Rutgers administration, do you believe that UCONN can create a better CFB product than Rutgers or Maryland?

The question is, how many more people in the NY area are going to watch football games because of the new teams that UCONN would play? Do fans in NY really care about watching Texas, OU, Okie Lite or Baylor play, especially if those teams put a whooping on UCONN on a consistent basis?