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[bags27]

I think you are drifting a bit. Your original question was: But let me query the assessment of "renaissance": what exactly does that mean? How much and how sustained? The answer is in excess of $5 billion.

The growth since 2000 has been formidable. It is a quantum leap over any other period in the university's history. If you want to validate and or dispute that, feel free to research it and post it. Until, then, these are the numbers.

No, go back to the beginning of this thread. This was my point: the lack of correlation with sports success.
And UcMiami, I don't doubt you. But I'm trying to rely on numbers not impressions, and acknowledge other variables.

All moot at this point, since the research has been done and shows some, but not huge, correlation.
Anyway, who cares? We've got Azura!
Great blogging with you all.

 

[UcMiami]

I think you are drifting a bit. Your original question was: But let me query the assessment of "renaissance": what exactly does that mean? How much and how sustained? The answer is in excess of $5 billion.

The growth since 2000 has been formidable. It is a quantum leap over any other period in the university's history. If you want to validate and or dispute that, feel free to research it and post it. Until, then, these are the numbers.

I expect the expansion of the 50s translated in 2000 dollars would be equal to this expansion - but that is probably the only other time period dating back to the founding of the school.

 

[CL82]

No, go back to the beginning of this thread. This was my point: the lack of correlation with sports success.
And UcMiami, I don't doubt you. But I'm trying to rely on numbers not impressions, and acknowledge other variables.

All moot at this point, since the research has been done and shows some, but not huge, correlation.
Anyway, who cares? We've got Azura!
Great blogging with you all.

Except here's the thing, you haven't provided any numbers, just impressions. Every school may not see an huge influx of state investment due to the success of it sports programs, but UConn did.

 

[BroadwayVa]

UC & Bags - If you go back and read my original post I have numerous questions. Even the few declarative statements finished with a question. The purpose of my post was not to specifically choose a side. I wanted to bring up issues that were not clear or were controversial.
I don't know what the answer is. I asked questions to see how others see the issue and to listen to their solutions or reasoning.
IMO - Asking a question means I need more info and I am not locked into a certain side or mindset. Also, questions kind of pokes the bear to see what will happen.

PhillyCoach---As you know I enjoy reading your contributions--I look for them. There is another poster who uses PhillyConn which, in my speed reading ventures, I mistakenly think it's you. I prefer the Coach, other guy is ok but he just isn't coach.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Except here's the thing, you haven't provided any numbers, just impressions. Every school may not see an huge influx of state investment due to the success of it sports programs, but UConn did.

OK, I'm not going to get involved, but I don't think that state investment was the center of any of the initial conversation.

Rather, does sports success drive alumni (and other) donations. Likewise, it could be asked how sports success translates into interest in the school by prospective students.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I expect the expansion of the 50s translated in 2000 dollars would be equal to this expansion - but that is probably the only other time period dating back to the founding of the school.

I tend to use a multiplier of about 25 when bringing those dollars to reflect what the would be today. But it depends if you are speaking wages, homes cost, gasoline. I use the following for 1960's pricing
Homes run about a 15 multiplier
Gasoline 10 to 20
Wages about 15-20 depending on the occupation
There is a formulae that uses e to the negative power T for time/ current inflation--but the exact formulae escapes my feeble brain at the moment--but I'm sure a math major/engineer will provide it handily.
But my rough (why isn't that ruff) multipliers have worked for me.
I use it when people say--back in the day gas only cost 25 cents look at it today 205 cents--yes but adjusted for inflation it would be 250 to 350/gal you are getting a good deal!! 13 ears of corn in Ellington were 1 dollar--to day they should be 15 dollars adjusting for inflation..

 

[CL82]

OK, I'm not going to get involved, but I don't think that state investment was the center of any of the initial conversation.

Rather, does sports success drive alumni (and other) donations. Likewise, it could be asked how sports success translates into interest in the school by prospective students.

Shaddup Jersey!

 

[BroadwayVa]

OK, I'm not going to get involved, but I don't think that state investment was the center of any of the initial conversation.

Rather, does sports success drive alumni (and other) donations. Likewise, it could be asked how sports success translates into interest in the school by prospective students.

From a personal perspective: Yes success makes the college more in your mind--gives you an elated feeling that transforms to more open pocketbook.
Also it has to do with the amount of LIQUID assets you have and how long you expect to live (speaking for old farts)--if you truly believe, as I do, that I cannot out live my assets--then you tend to be more generous. Once tight purses open up. From experience--once more cautious with spending --changes when you have fewer worries.