Real competition at QB

[formerlurker]

I have no doubt that it is Richard's dad posting here.

I read it as weighing his options... not "backing out". My gut tells me that his LOI will be the first one we receive. I'll be pissed if I'm wrong.

I'll be pissed at you if you're wrong too.

 

[businesslawyer]

I'll be pissed at you if you're wrong too.

Look -- the staff wanted Boyle before they wanted Lagow. I hope Lagow comes in, because on this TDH is right -- until we have the next Orlovsky, I want as many well thought of candidates in the door as possible. But if the price of Boyle is losing Lagow -- well, that is the way the staff wanted to take this originally.

 

[formerlurker]

Look -- the staff wanted Boyle before they wanted Lagow. I hope Lagow comes in, because on this TDH is right -- until we have the next Orlovsky, I want as many well thought of candidates in the door as possible. But if the price of Boyle is losing Lagow -- well, that is the way the staff wanted to take this originally.

Why respond to my post with this? I wasn't talking to you.

 

[whaler11]

What competition??? Endres beat Cincy and was poised for an upset over West Virginia (all #82 needed to do was catch a perfectly thrown pass at the five yard line with no one around him for a would-be 20-7 lead), after which he lost his poise. Following week, TL was back at the helm thereby completely negating any threat of a passing attack for the final three games (two of which featured anemic offense and resultant losses) as well as bowl win against ubiquitious opponent Buffalo (always there when you need a win) that was all Donald Brown minus the whooping 6 passes thrown.

So . . . no. There was no competition because otherwise Endres would have been the starter the rest of the season.

You are arguing something different altogether. I was merely pointing out that Pal's comment that there was never quarterbacking potential under Edsall was wrong, not that he handled the talent correctly.

 

[businesslawyer]

Look -- the staff wanted Boyle before they wanted Lagow. I hope Lagow comes in, because on this TDH is right -- until we have the next Orlovsky, I want as many well thought of candidates in the door as possible. But if the price of Boyle is losing Lagow -- well, that is the way the staff wanted to take this originally.

Honestly, I don't know that I meant to.

 

[CL82]

If (not wanting to count unhatched chickens) we get a bit more depth at QB, how about McCummings as a change of pace back? Throw in a couple of throwing plays for him for good measure.

 

[sdhusky]

Honestly, I don't know that I meant to.

Wow. Are you ok?

You passed over a chance to defend Edsall and accidentally defended PP?

 

[uconnbill]

I still think Casey surprises folks this upcoming season. He works very hard and has a great head on his shoulders. I wouldn't give up on him yet

 

[huskysupporter]

I still think Casey surprises folks this upcoming season. He works very hard and has a great head on his shoulders. I wouldn't give up on him yet

I still remain high on Casey.

 

[metsfan2323]

I still remain high on Casey.

P is on record comparing him to Drew Brees.

I can't wait for the spring game. Whitmer vs Cochran in a 15 round cruiser weight fight.

 

[sportsart]

Would you consider it a good sign if Lagow is tweeting about how the UConn women are wooping someone 62-17?

I think it was a tweet to someone like Emily Noonan, who rings a bell.

 

[SubbaBub]

Realistically unless your USC, if one QB doesn't clearly separate himself then old adage of you don't have a QB applies.

The fact that we haven't had a clear #1 since DanO supports that idea.

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[whaler11]

Realistically unless your USC, if one QB doesn't clearly separate himself then old adage of you don't have a QB applies.

The fact that we haven't had a clear #1 since DanO supports that idea.

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UConn had clear number one quarterbacks in 2007 and 2012. They would have had a clear number one quarterback in 2011 if said quarterback could follow the rules.

 

[formerlurker]

Would you consider it a good sign if Lagow is tweeting about how the UConn women are wooping someone 62-17?

I think it was a tweet to someone like Emily Noonan, who rings a bell.

If that's true I take it as a positive sign, which I like.

I love signed LOI's.

 

[Fishy]

Would you consider it a good sign if Lagow is tweeting about how the UConn women are wooping someone 62-17?

I think it was a tweet to someone like Emily Noonan, who rings a bell.

I've chosen to take it as a very good sign, but I'm delusional.

Emily Noonan works at UConn - she's the young woman on the Husky All-Access stuff.

 

[Bezzz]

Would you consider it a good sign if Lagow is tweeting about how the UConn women are wooping someone 62-17?

I think it was a tweet to someone like Emily Noonan, who rings a bell.

For the record, Emily tweeted the score first, Richard just re-tweeted. At least he's paying attention.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

UConn had clear number one quarterbacks in 2007 and 2012. They would have had a clear number one quarterback in 2011 if said quarterback could follow the rules.

A "GOOD" . . . clear number one! And that was NOT the case in either year. Now that's harsh and I don't want it to be, so I'll qualify and temper.

In '07, the QB was an exceptional athlete and runner and had some leadership value. Also from all accounts, a good team guy. Unfortunately, he was a terrible passer (awful mechanics and not much arm strength). As a result, UConn had an abysmal passing game in both '07 and '08. And were it not for Donald Brown and Andre Dixon - a totally inept and impotent offense.

As for '12, CW showed a lot of promise and perhaps the best is yet ahead. Biggest drawback is the fact that the offense was abysmal and unable to get in the end zone enough to be considered even remotely effective. A decent passer, with decent arm strength, he may put it together this season. Just needs to be more consistent. Wish, he was as good a runner as TL ('07 & '08) because that would be special. Bottom line . . . the jury is still out on CW going into the '13 season and hopefully he will be the one that makes fans forget about Dan O.

 

[whaler11]

A "GOOD" . . . clear number one! And that was NOT the case in either year. Now that's harsh and I don't want it to be, so I'll qualify and temper.

In '07, the QB was an exceptional athlete and runner and had some leadership value. Also from all accounts, a good team guy. Unfortunately, he was a terrible passer (awful mechanics and not much arm strength). As a result, UConn had an abysmal passing game in both '07 and '08. And were it not for Donald Brown and Andre Dixon - a totally inept and impotent offense.

As for '12, CW showed a lot of promise and perhaps the best is yet ahead. Biggest drawback is the fact that the offense was abysmal and unable to get in the end zone enough to be considered even remotely effective. A decent passer, with decent arm strength, he may put it together this season. Just needs to be more consistent. Wish, he was as good a runner as TL ('07 & '08) because that would be special. Bottom line . . . the jury is still out on CW going into the '13 season and hopefully he will be the one that makes fans forget about Dan O.

You are confusing the 07 Lorenzen with the later edition after his shoulder injuries.

CW was pretty good. He spent the entire season getting buried with no running game to speak of to take any of the pressure off.

Neither were/are Dan O but both were clear number 1 quarterbacks. Lorenzen won the damn league in 07, sorry he wasn't a Heisman candidate.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

You are confusing the 07 Lorenzen with the later edition after his shoulder injuries.

CW was pretty good. He spent the entire season getting buried with no running game to speak of to take any of the pressure off.

Neither were/are Dan O but both were clear number 1 quarterbacks. Lorenzen won the damn league in 07, sorry he wasn't a Heisman candidate.

Agree that CW can be the guy. . . let's hope. TL was never a good passer. He had a dart thrower's mechanics. Yes the 'o7 team Tied for the Big East title, but that was on the defense and Donald Brown/Andre Dixon. TL was not a Heisman candidate. He was also not an all Big East QB. What he was . . . was a slight upgrade over DJ Hernandez who was never gonna be a good QB at the BCS level. But that was all, he was healthy or hurt.

 

[whaler11]

TL hit on 57% of his passes for 2,400 yards and threw for 13 TD against only 6 picks he also ran for another net 325 yards.

They were one point from starting 9-0.

Maybe you don't think TL was a good quarterback in 2007 because he wasn't Timmy Chang or David Klingler, but he was.

 

[J187Money]

To date he has better decision making stats. But not better talent than CW. Right now the turnovers are what are impeding CW.

 

[whaler11]

To date he has better decision making stats. But not better talent than CW. Right now the turnovers are what are impeding CW.

If you gave CW the 2007 offensive line in 2012... You'd assume you had a first team all league QB the next two years.

 

[J187Money]

Fair point.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I am of the opinion that Cochran is odd man out. Seems to me that they have effectively recruited over him as they say in basketball. He is behind Whitmer who has 2 more years of eligibility and started last year. He is being pushed by not 1 but 2 guys who would have to be considered more prototypical quarterbacks for they style we want to play. I've only seen Boyle and Cochran play 1 time each in high school and my view is Boyle is better, but I also concede that he had far superior talent around him. I totally discount the Spring game for Cochran since he was so clearly out of his league at that point, but almost any true freshman would have been in a similar situation. And I'm excited to watch Lagow. Texas football is way more sophisticated at the 5A level than anything in Connecticut so he may be the most polished of the 3.

Posts like this are why I don't follow recruiting. Every new recruit is the program savior, and last year's recruits suck because they aren't starting already.

Players take time to get ready. Playing a lot of freshman usually says more about the quality of the incumbents than the quality of the recruits. I don't know whether Cochran will be a good QB or not, but about a year ago most of this board thought he was the program savior. Now he sucks, and the new class will be the program saviors. And then a year from now, this year's class will suck and next year's class will be the program saviors.

 

[uconndogs]

Posts like this are why I don't follow recruiting. Every new recruit is the program savior, and last year's recruits suck because they aren't starting already.

Players take time to get ready. Playing a lot of freshman usually says more about the quality of the incumbents than the quality of the recruits. I don't know whether Cochran will be a good QB or not, but about a year ago most of this board thought he was the program savior. Now he sucks, and the new class will be the program saviors. And then a year from now, this year's class will suck and next year's class will be the program saviors.

Agree with the sentiment of this post entirely. Folks count stars, the recruiting sites as is they are the ultimate assurance of winning. They are at best, imperfect...at best.

Trevardo, Joseph, Sio, Yawin, Jory, Blide, Gratz comprised over half our starting defense last season which was among the best in the country. All are NFL caliber talent and four will be at the combine. Take a look at their recruiting data and note the stars and offers. Are we likely to see as much talent on that side of the ball in the foreseeable future?