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vowelguy said:
Dawn Staley started at Temple.

If Sue Bird wants to coach, she could get a decent head coaching job right out of the box.
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Dawn @ Temple is a very good comparison - and a strong point.
 
vowelguy said:
Perhaps, but prominent assistant coaches can get major jobs.

Coquese Washington at Penn St, Kim Mulkey at Baylor, Holly Warlick at Tenn, Jeff Walz at Louisville, Nikki Caldwell at UCLA

and Kevin Ollie at UConn
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-Great point...

and Geno Auriemma, at UConn of course...

(1) ... Whose subjective opinion of what a future candidate "needs" to be UConn WBB Head Coach might influence and trump that of anyone else...

(2) “Need” prior experience as a Head Coach? Well, he famously recommended Coach Sherri Coale to be NCAA Division I Oklahoma's successful head coach, while she still served only as a high school coach...

(3) I anticipate Coach Auriemma will remain UConn's Head Coach for exactly as long as he continues to find it fun. Based on statements about his delight with the recent recruiting classes Coaches CD, Shea Ralph, and Marisa Moseley continue to bring in... I think (and hope) he'll still be having fun here for a long, looooong time.
 
IMO, the wild card in this 'future coaches' talk is DT.... Talk about a chip off the old (Geno) block.
 
It's hard not to be getting excited. I mean most of us probably forgot about Brianna Banks and figured she'd might not be getting a lot of time because of the incoming freshman. Than you read rave reviews on her improvement. I mean I had Banks 10th on our roster. Whose the weak link? No one. Even Buck brings something to the table. Doesn't appear to be much of a drop off when players leave the game and those on the bench come in.

Should be a fun year. Let's hope they stay healthy.
 
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ASweet3781 said:
It's hard not to be getting excited. I mean most of us probably forgot about Brianna Banks and figured she'd might not be getting a lot of time because of the incoming freshman. Than you read rave reviews on her improvement. I mean I had Banks 10th on our roster. Whose the weak link? No one. Even Buck brings something to the table. Doesn't appear to be much of a drop off when players leave the game and those on the bench come in.

Should be a fun year. Let's hope they stay healthy.
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Heather Buck brings much to the court...
 
Ozzie Nelson said:
Heather Buck brings much to the court...
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I agree, Ozzie. I am a big Buck fan. But I do think that she has not brough as much as she is capable of bringing.

While probably one the best conditioned player on the team, if not the best, her contributions have been limited. Last year, she looked to be on her way to "getting it" and then she hurt her wrist.

I think she gets "senioritis" in a good way. I love her intensity when she is on the court, her swooping rebounds and her help defense. I'd love to see her impact the team more than just hoping she can help defend Griner.
 
vowelguy said:
Dawn Staley started at Temple.

If Sue Bird wants to coach, she could get a decent head coaching job right out of the box.
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Seems to me this is a major factor many apparently don't want to consider.

Why would Sue Bird or DT want to get into coaching? For that matter, other than the money, I think it's very possible Jen would be reluctant to leave Hartford, where she's been a long time, been successful, and undoubtedly has developed strong feelings of loyalty and ownership. "Moving up" a career ladder really is not of much importance to many folks. (Have no idea if that's true of Jen, but OTOH you can't dismiss it as a potential factor in her choices.)

Don't know Sue, either, but she's making more money playing than she would at any assistant coaching job -- or HC jobs except at the most uber-elite schools. Beyond that, I would think she would have many attractive offers in some high-profile field -- TV (easily see her as a Lawson/Lobo type), politics (if she is so inclined), or other positions -- offering big bucks and fewer negatives than coaching -- where a celebrity would be seen as an important asset to an enterprise. She's obviously got what it takes to be a star beyond bball.

DT is a special case. She loves the game so much -- and hopefully has set herself up financially -- that perhaps she would want to coach simply to stay involved. Kind of like having a passion for some hobby, or a need to have a daunting challenge to hold her interest.. Plus, she carries some baggage public-imagewise that could make her PR/pop culture value perhaps problematic. And despite her love of the game, you get the impression her personality demands something more free-spirited than coaching allows.

O course, UConn HC $$$$ and prestige/ego boost could be hard to turn down for anyone in their situations..
 
Jen has expressed interest in the UConn job.

Sue in politics?? Definitely do NOT see that.
 
vowelguy said:
Perhaps, but prominent assistant coaches can get major jobs.

Coquese Washington at Penn St, Kim Mulkey at Baylor, Holly Warlick at Tenn, Jeff Walz at Louisville, Nikki Caldwell at UCLA

and Kevin Ollie at UConn
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Geno Auriemma :-)
 
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HuskyNan said:
Geno Auriemma :)
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Let's not kid ourselves, UConn was NOT a major job when he got the job. Even he admits he saw it as a stepping stone to a real school.
 
I think it is overwhelmingly a sample size issue. You're talking about a tiny sample size of great players, many of whom were great at least in part to unique physical advantages, competing against an enormous talent pool of potential coaches. Michael Jordan now has to compete against guys that couldn't jump over the phone book on relatively equal footing. You can talk about drive, dedication, and paying the price, but on every professional roster there are less physically talented players with that same drive and dedication.

alexrgct said:
It's an interesting debate about great players becoming great coaches. Is it just that there aren't many truly great coaches or truly great players, so the sample size is too small to expect much overlap? Or are there qualities specifically in great players that make it difficult for them to become great coaches?

I do think there is one quality that makes coaching difficult for great former players, and that is that many of them inherently understand that you have to pay a price to be great, and don't understand why a kid wouldn't be doing everything possible to be the best they could be (or just be totally intolerant of such a player). If there's anything to this, perhaps Tina Charles will be a great coach one day.
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I would love to see Heather Buck finish her career at UCONN on a positive note. She has always had the talent to be successful, but for one reason or another has never reached her full potential. This is Heather's last chance so I believe we all see a different Heather this year.
 
Sue is already a coach on the floor. She is both personable and demanding. She has big-time name recognition. I think she would be a great coach.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Sue is already a coach on the floor. She is both personable and demanding. She has big-time name recognition. I think she would be a great coach.
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Being a great player does not make one a great coach.
Magic Johnson was a coach on the floor; his coaching career was brief.
Isiah Thomas was horrible, horr-i-ble as coach (and GM).

That said, I can see Sue as a coach ... certainly moreso than DT.
 
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Scotter said:
I think it is overwhelmingly a sample size issue. You're talking about a tiny sample size of great players, many of whom were great at least in part to unique physical advantages, competing against an enormous talent pool of potential coaches. Michael Jordan now has to compete against guys that couldn't jump over the phone book on relatively equal footing. You can talk about drive, dedication, and paying the price, but on every professional roster there are less physically talented players with that same drive and dedication.
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And on every professional (and many college) rosters, there are extremely gifted players who don't have that same drive and dedication. That is what can drive all-time great players crazy. A guy like Jordan was extremely gifted physically, but his most defining characteristic was that he was maniacally competitive. He would be an awful head coach, as a side note.

Actually two all-time great players who were successful as coaches were not necessarily the most freakish physical specimens: Larry Bird and Bill Russell.
 
pap49cba said:
IMO, the wild card in this 'future coaches' talk is DT.... Talk about a chip off the old (Geno) block.
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Should DT ever become a coach, ESPN, CBS et al should think twice - heck, a dozen times - before putting a mike on her during games. Geno's infamous Sveta comment "she plays like a g%$d&*@ European" would earn a "G" rating, "PG" at worst in comparison. :D
 
vowelguy said:
Being a great player does not make one a great coach.
Magic Johnson was a coach on the floor; his coaching career was brief.
Isiah Thomas was horrible, horr-i-ble as coach (and GM).

That said, I can see Sue as a coach ... certainly moreso than DT.
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I agree that great player does not necessarily make a great coach. I also agree that Sue would probably be a good one. She could recruit with anyone; she would show up with Diana and a huge bag of food from Wendy's.
 
MilfordHusky said:
I agree that great player does not necessarily make a great coach. I also agree that Sue would probably be a good one. She could recruit with anyone; she would show up with Diana and a huge bag of food from Wendy's.
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Hmmm ... I'm not sure the current Wendy's menu has the same recruiting power it has six or seven years ago. It might be more effective if she shows up with Diana and Five Guys.
 
connboy77 said:
I would love to see Heather Buck finish her career at UCONN on a positive note... I believe we all see a different Heather this year.
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- Entirely agree.

-It’s so easy to be a Heather Buck fan - UConn’s Connecticut native, carrying that demanding Nursing Major, committing to stay with us as a 5th year senior in whatever role she is asked.

- And my instinct, just reading the ‘Yard is…. The stars definitely seem to be lining up for us to see her in a special year – when her effectiveness is needed most.

--In my view, it’s entirely about the two epic games likely against Baylor: Armageddon I in Harford with both teams likely having unbeaten streaks on the line; and Armageddon II for all the marbles somewhere in the NCAA tourney.

-- Everything Heather has done to date and will continue to build upon in practice, conditioning, and all of this season’s games would seem to be prologue - prologue to whatever degree she indeed contributes to those two decisive games. Two games when all the prior effort simply no longer matters – just effectiveness.

-- Lucky girl; heck, I don’t know if UConn’s ever had a more worthy opponent. Not only should Baylor be stronger than ever, but of course, no WCBB team in the foreseeable future will have the outstanding capability Senior BG brings to that team.

-- So while UConn may have to be firing on all cylinders to beat them, Heather seems particularly fortunate by nature of her position. That is, no matter how many minutes, no matter what role she is launched into, every second will count, since… it’s almost certainly going to be flying straight into the Battle of Brittney.

-- What a challenge. I’m really glad she decided to stay with us this year!
 
Have alot of respect for John and for the rest of the writers. So, here,s my answer to his query :
My main basketball interest is in "Our Girls" - in fact, it is about the only team I will watch (yes, Posse, I realize there is most always another team on the floor out of necessity:rolleyes: ). Less interest when they are on a pro team as I find that game to be almost as distasteful as the men's game at all levels (chronic rule violations, lack of sportsmanship etc). On rare occasion I'll take a peek at one of our old players just to see how they are doing.
Hope you'll use your reporting time and energies, John, primarily on slaking our thirst for solid info on our team, including (and especially) the pros and cons re the developing abilities of the various individuals, observed at the practices we don't get to witness....how various combinations are clicking...how the various coaches are contributing............all of the stuff which relates to what we can expect to see at game time when they toss up the ball.
 
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winlots said:
Have alot of respect for John and for the rest of the writers. So, here,s my answer to his query :
My main basketball interest is in "Our Girls" - in fact, it is about the only team I will watch (yes, Posse, I realize there is most always another team on the floor out of necessity:rolleyes: ). Less interest when they are on a pro team as I find that game to be almost as distasteful as the men's game at all levels (chronic rule violations, lack of sportsmanship etc). On rare occasion I'll take a peek at one of our old players just to see how they are doing.
Hope you'll use your reporting time and energies, John, primarily on slaking our thirst for solid info on our team, including (and especially) the pros and cons re the developing abilities of the various individuals, observed at the practices we don't get to witness....how various combinations are clicking...how the various coaches are contributing............all of the stuff which relates to what we can expect to see at game time when they toss up the ball.
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Wrong thread :)
 
sarals24 said:
Wrong thread :)
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Hey, I'm an old person! (Thanks for the tip. Will hope John reads all the threads, or maybe one of the "techies" can swap this to where it belongs.)
 
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