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Wouldn't be having this discussion if Casey Cochran hadn't gotten concussed...he was the answer to the QB question for the next three years and would've bridged the gap until new QB recruits came in. The thing is, next year the QB situation may not improve. In fact, there's a real good chance it may, unbelievably, get worse before it gets better.

And the O-line can be worse too next year with two senior starters graduating. It may be 2016 before the offense puts more than 20 points on the board against an FBS opponent.
 
whaler11 said:
What list? A list that would matter would be of quarterbacks who were good against high level competition. That list does not exist.

Nebrich is the closest to that... and he rolls up numbers against Georgetown and Lehigh.

Tim Boyle has been abysmal in his time at UConn. If he transfers to the Patriot League who cares?
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Whoa there. Last year, Nebrich put up 320 yards (23-36, 2 TD's) against Temple and 400 yards (37-50, 4 TD's) against Towson; our only common opponents. One win, one loss.

As an aside, the (long) article (link below) was in Sunday's Daily News.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...chael-nebrich-bronx-burning-article-1.1979123

But remember. According to GDL, all he could do was, "run around and make plays." When your staff thinks that's a bad thing, well, we all saw the result. Still seeing them, in fact.
 
FAIRTIDES said:
Whoa there. Last year, Nebrich put up 320 yards (23-36, 2 TD's) against Temple and 400 yards (37-50, 4 TD's) against Towson; our only common opponents. One win, one loss.

As an aside, the (long) article (link below) was in Sunday's Daily News.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...chael-nebrich-bronx-burning-article-1.1979123

But remember. According to GDL, all he could do was, "run around and make plays." When your staff thinks that's a bad thing, well, we all saw the result. Still seeing them, in fact.
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Very happy for the kid and Coach Moorhead. Two people that really came out of the mess that Edsall left behind and have shined. We're 4 years later, still trying to clean up and climb out of the hole we fell into. I think it would do all UCONN football fans good, to read about the Fordham offense, and watch some other football besides UCONN for a while, just to get an idea of what good football actually looks like. Hell you can go to high school games and watch better offense. The numbers Nebrich is putting up in Moorhead's offense are impressive.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Very happy for the kid and Coach Moorhead. Two people that really came out of the mess that Edsall left behind and have shined. We're 4 years later, still trying to clean up and climb out of the hole we fell into. I think it would do all UCONN football fans good, to read about the Fordham offense, and watch some other football besides UCONN for a while, just to get an idea of what good football actually looks like. Hell you can go to high school games and watch better offense. The numbers Nebrich is putting up in Moorhead's offense are impressive.
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Your fixation with blaming Edsall for this mess is -- what is the legal term -- mindnumbingly idiotic. With all due respect.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Your fixation with blaming Edsall for this mess is -- what is the legal term -- mindnumbingly idiotic. With all due respect.
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Try some reading comprehension counselor.

"Very happy for the kid and Coach Moorhead. Two people that really came out of the mess that Edsall left behind and have shined. We're 4 years later, still trying to clean up and climb out of the hole we fell into."

Moorhead, and Nebrich were most definitely left in a "mess" caused by Edsall, and were left behind, displaced, not fitting - and came out of it well. We most definitely fell into a hole, that was caused by Hathaway hiring Pasqualoni, that we're still trying to climb out of 4 years later. Sorry I didn't make that clear enough for you.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Try some reading comprehension counselor.

"Very happy for the kid and Coach Moorhead. Two people that really came out of the mess that Edsall left behind and have shined. We're 4 years later, still trying to clean up and climb out of the hole we fell into."

Moorhead, and Nebrich were most definitely left in a "mess" caused by Edsall, and were left behind, displaced, not fitting - and came out of it well. We most definitely fell into a hole, that was caused by Hathaway hiring Pasqualoni, that we're still trying to climb out of 4 years later. Sorry I didn't make that clear enough for you.
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My reading comprehension is fine. Edsall did not leave behind a mess. Edsall left behind a roster of mentally tough kids coming off a conference championship. There was no mess until P was hired and, for three years, lost too many of Edsall's kids, didn't physically build up and teach up the ones who stayed and didn't keep the talent level up in his 2.5 recruiting seasons.
 
businesslawyer said:
My reading comprehension is fine. Edsall did not leave behind a mess. Edsall left behind a roster of mentally tough kids coming off a conference championship. There was no mess until P was hired and, for three years, lost too many of Edsall's kids, didn't physically build up and teach up the ones who stayed and didn't keep the talent level up in his 2.5 recruiting seasons.
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You need to take your rose colored glasses off regarding Edsall once in a while. We were 3-4, had gotten smoked by Louisville 26-0 in 2010, before some players got up in the locker room, and essentially said: "Jazz wouldn't have this.", comining of the 2009 season, and the team went on that 5 game run to the Fiesta Bowl - which gave Edsall his out he'd been looking for since 2007. There is no doubt that Edsall would have found a way to squeak out the 6-6, 7-5 seasons with the roster moving forward in 2011, but the recruiting problems we have now, and have had for the past few years, that we are JUST now coming out of, started in 2008. The talent level that Pasqualoni's program recruited is on the field right now, so if you don't like insulting current players, I would keep your mouth shut about that. The strength and conditioning coach, that everyone loved and Pasqualoni kept along, was fighting cancer from up through Jan 2014, and was declining steadily in his energy and performing up to standards for a few years, except nobody knew about it, because he never told anyone what he was going through. Pasqualoni should never have been allowed to bring Deleone on board with the program, and had Hathaway had any idea about anything, he would have made the hiring conditional on not hiring Deleone. We've been over this before. The only unit, on the field, that has been a recruiting disaster, and continues to be, for what we have now - 6 years after Edsall started bailing on recruiting - is the OL - Deleone's group. Pasqualoni treated college players like professionals, and did it with an antiquated bully style of coaching that does not relate to 21st century college athletes. They fell apart, but if you think that is entirely the fault of the coaching staff, and the players had no responsibility themselves, you are sorely mistaken.

Edsall screwed this program, the way he left it in the dark, with a progressively declining recruiting since 2008, and a class as of December 2010, that had less then 10 players, when we needed the full 25, mostly on the offensive side of the ball, just to be up to adequate numbers. Diaco is recruiting like hell, as did Pasqualoni, simply in a numbers game to catch up where Edsall had let it fall off regarding the NLI yearly signing cycle. Nebrich, was one of those players that was left in that mess, as was his primary recruiter, and relatively new coach hired by Edsall - and left behind by Edsall - Moorhead.

Perhaps that's ok with you, the way that Edsall left, erased anything good I have to say about the guy, except that he knew how to build a team that could win games at Rentschler field.

Good lord, all I did was compliment a player and a coach, about finding a way out of the mess that Edsall left behind, and do well for themselves and you come out of the woodwork at me. Have a nice day counselor.
 
businesslawyer said:
Your fixation with blaming Edsall for this mess is -- what is the legal term -- mindnumbingly idiotic. With all due respect.
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Though UCONN's situation after he left was not all FHCRE's fault, in the sense that he rode his horse outa Dodge in the middle of the night, he certainly did leave a mess. No team meeting, no recommendations to Hathaway or Herbst about Morehead OR incoming recruits, nothing. If UCONN was his wife and his players were his kids, it's a clear case of abandonment.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Though UCONN's situation after he left was not all FHCRE's fault, in the sense that he rode his horse outa Dodge in the middle of the night, he certainly did leave a mess. No team meeting, no recommendations to Hathaway or Herbst about Morehead OR incoming recruits, nothing. If UCONN was his wife and his players were his kids, it's a clear case of abandonment.
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I understand the sentiment, but he left the way college coaches leave today. I don't like it and it has no place in what is supposed to be state run educational institutions, but it is what it is.

And Spackler wasn't talking about process -- Spackler was talking about what was left. Which was as good defensive talent as was in the conference, a solid OL and below average playmakers. Maybe we have a QB issue with Edsall, and maybe between Box and Nebrich moving to more of a spread we don't, We will never know. What we do know is that P utterly destroyed this program. And fixating on one single recruiting class that still had a month to go as more than a potentially down recruiting year is just disingenuous.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Though UCONN's situation after he left was not all FHCRE's fault, in the sense that he rode his horse outa Dodge in the middle of the night, he certainly did leave a mess. No team meeting, no recommendations to Hathaway or Herbst about Morehead OR incoming recruits, nothing. If UCONN was his wife and his players were his kids, it's a clear case of abandonment.
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At the end of the day, a man's gotta do what's best for him and his family.. Edsall did just that.... Can't blame him for that... he probably saw what everyone here seems to see when it comes to Hathaway, a guy that put himself in a situation that was clearly over his head...
 
ktuck911 said:
At the end of the day, a man's gotta do what's best for him and his family.. Edsall did just that.... Can't blame him for that... he probably saw what everyone here seems to see when it comes to Hathaway, a guy that put himself in a situation that was clearly over his head...
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I thought UCONN was his family. He actually said that once!!!!
 
businesslawyer said:
I understand the sentiment, but he left the way college coaches leave today. I don't like it and it has no place in what is supposed to be state run educational institutions, but it is what it is.

And Spackler wasn't talking about process -- Spackler was talking about what was left. Which was as good defensive talent as was in the conference, a solid OL and below average playmakers. Maybe we have a QB issue with Edsall, and maybe between Box and Nebrich moving to more of a spread we don't, We will never know. What we do know is that P utterly destroyed this program. And fixating on one single recruiting class that still had a month to go as more than a potentially down recruiting year is just disingenuous.
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Stop trying to tell me and others what I'm thinking. Go back and re-read the post I responded to Fairtides article. You are the one that responded with this crap. You didn't like the word "mess" and have attributed all this meaning to it, and accused me of a fixation - I haven't written about Edsall or Pasqualoni in months - don't care about either of them.

The program degenerated to a level that led to the longest winless streak in something like 50 years of UCONN football. You talk about players that were not developed and had no talent - well Diaco's staff has had 10 months of calendar time, which is a hell of a lot less actual player contact time with this roster, and our defense - with the players that were mostly recruited by Pasqualoni - is top 20. They will get tested tomorrow, as to whether or not that is an illusion. You';re going knock down Pasqualoni, you should give credit where it's due too. The condition of the practice facility was a disaster, but the walls were still standing. Destroyed is a strong word - for where we are at right now. A hell of a lot stronger than "mess". As for recruiting, I can't even begin to start an explanation if you think that what I wrote is focused only on one recruiting class. Fail to reading comprehend again.

Stick to the View - you're good at it - and people miss it.
 
Bob Diaco did not leave Notre Dame the way that "college coaches leave today." Moorhead didn't leave UCONN that way. Just wanted to add that. There is no generalization there to be made about the "way coaches leave".

Congrats again to Nebrich and Moorhead for coming out of the mess they found themselves in after Edsall left, and doing it very successfully, and putting up eye-popping offensive numbers at Fordham, and attracting pro-scouts. That mess, involved a completely underrecruited offense, and a coaching change with no direction, no fit, and being displaced from the get go - and still trying to make it work. Admirable, and I am truly happy for them coming out what they found themselves in from January 2, 2011 to December 2011 - the way they did. It was a mess, as far as I'm concerned, and nobody is going to define for me, what my words mean.

We fell off into a hole BECAUSE OF THE HIRING OF PASQUALONI - just so everybody knows where I stand, and I clarified that before once already too, right up there above this, that we are still trying to climb out of, and maybe, I should go into the basement and sacrifice a whole bunch of chickens, because tomorrow night would really be a great opportunity to get one of those WTF wins that can kickstart things going the right away, and sacrificing chickens to make it happen, makes about as much sense to me, as what we've been doing as far as game planning and game time decision making. Mostly, because I refuse to accept that this season is a throwaway season. Everything else about the direction we are going in, is positive. Except the game planning and decision making this season in game. Things tend to make sense, if you accept that it's a throwaway season. I do not accept it, and won't. I'd rather see a coaching staff, take what they have and do everything possible to get wins, week to week. Just me.

I will now take this cup of coffee that got pissed in this morning, and dump it out, and start anew.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Bob Diaco did not leave Notre Dame the way that "college coaches leave today." Moorhead didn't leave UCONN that way. Just wanted to add that. There is no generalization there to be made about the "way coaches leave"..
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Assistant coaches and head coaches are two different animals.

Edsall left the program chock full of NFL players. Maybe not on offense, but nothing like what PP left in the cupboard
 
Edsall did a magnificent job of building a College Football Program - from scratch (trailers). I'm going to vehemently disagree with any opinion that doesn't begin there. Subtle & specific criticism is appropriate. There was plenty to make you feel somewhat dyspeptic.

It's a far different job to take a solid tradition earned program to regular top. 25. He's trying that now - Jury's out.
 
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While on the topic of Nebrich, Tebucky Jones Jr is averaging almost 100 yards per game for them. Not sure what impact he would have had at UCONN, but its nice to see him having a good career. Word is his dad never liked PP and was looking to get him out of there.
 
sdhusky said:
Assistant coaches and head coaches are two different animals.

Edsall left the program chock full of NFL players. Maybe not on offense, but nothing like what PP left in the cupboard
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Nothing better to do than dredge up the cupboard bare crap huh? I suppose it's ok, to only recruit one side of the ball well? Our OL recruiting depth problem, which is the problem that we are struggling to fix right now goes back to 2007-2008 recruiting cycle. Edsall simply wasn't bringing enough in anymore. Kevin Friend and Steve Greene were the only 2 OL's signed in 2009. Kuracea, Bennett, and Masters were the only ones taken in 2008. 2010, Gus Cruz, Hansson, and Paull. 2011 - Gifford and Nwokeji. That's what Edsall left behind.

Pasqualoni was at least attempting to bring in adequate numbers on the OL. Diaco, did the same thing, and brought 5 OL's in his first class.

When two coaching staffs within 3 years come in and immediately identify the OL depth as a problem? Yeah - Saint Randy had nothing to do with that. We are climbing out of the hole that Pasqualoni created, by his management and coaching of the program, but cleaning up the OL, which we are sucking through right now - predates Pasqualoni the destroyer.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Bob Diaco did not leave Notre Dame the way that "college coaches leave today." Moorhead didn't leave UCONN that way. Just wanted to add that. There is no generalization there to be made about the "way coaches leave".

Congrats again to Nebrich and Moorhead for coming out of the mess they found themselves in after Edsall left, and doing it very successfully, and putting up eye-popping offensive numbers at Fordham, and attracting pro-scouts. That mess, involved a completely underrecruited offense, and a coaching change with no direction, no fit, and being displaced from the get go - and still trying to make it work. Admirable, and I am truly happy for them coming out what they found themselves in from January 2, 2011 to December 2011 - the way they did. It was a mess, as far as I'm concerned, and nobody is going to define for me, what my words mean.

We fell off into a hole BECAUSE OF THE HIRING OF PASQUALONI - just so everybody knows where I stand, and I clarified that before once already too, right up there above this, that we are still trying to climb out of, and maybe, I should go into the basement and sacrifice a whole bunch of chickens, because tomorrow night would really be a great opportunity to get one of those WTF wins that can kickstart things going the right away, and sacrificing chickens to make it happen, makes about as much sense to me, as what we've been doing as far as game planning and game time decision making. Mostly, because I refuse to accept that this season is a throwaway season. Everything else about the direction we are going in, is positive. Except the game planning and decision making this season in game. Things tend to make sense, if you accept that it's a throwaway season. I do not accept it, and won't. I'd rather see a coaching staff, take what they have and do everything possible to get wins, week to week. Just me.

I will now take this cup of coffee that got pissed in this morning, and dump it out, and start anew.
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HCBD, unless I'm way off, was not the head football coach at Notre Dame. How an assistant moves on has zippo to do with how a head coach moves on to a bigger program.
 
huskymedic said:
Does anyone else notice all threads tend to regress into the same discussion/argument the longer a thread is alive??
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These are the types of debates I generally sit out. Regardless of how Edsall left, the problem begins and ends with the hiring of P. you Jeff Hathaway.
 
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businesslawyer said:
HCBD, unless I'm way off, was not the head football coach at Notre Dame. How an assistant moves on has zippo to do with how a head coach moves on to a bigger program.
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Rather than change direction of the discussion, I would prefer you just admit that the 'what's the legal term - mindnumbingly idiotic - with all due respect" insult out of nowhere was unwarranted in response to what I wrote about Nebrich, and you read something into a simple comment I made, that wasn't there. Contrary to others around here, I do actually write, with the conscious effort, with all due respect, write the same things I would be comfortable saying directly to someone.
 
You seem to be having a problem with me actually responding to what you say, as opposed to what you'd like responses to be. Each of my responses of you have been fairly directed to your words.

Have a nice day. I didn't do a 241 after Tulane because the game was so unwatchable that I couldn't even pay enough attention for three hours to observe anything meaningful. I admire anyone who can pay close enough attention.
 
businesslawyer said:
I understand the sentiment, but he left the way college coaches leave today. I don't like it and it has no place in what is supposed to be state run educational institutions, but it is what it is.

And Spackler wasn't talking about process -- Spackler was talking about what was left. Which was as good defensive talent as was in the conference, a solid OL and below average playmakers. Maybe we have a QB issue with Edsall, and maybe between Box and Nebrich moving to more of a spread we don't, We will never know. What we do know is that P utterly destroyed this program. And fixating on one single recruiting class that still had a month to go as more than a potentially down recruiting year is just disingenuous.
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I hate to jump in to the fray, but I do dare you to name ONE other coach that left the way Randy did. I was a big fan while he was here, but I have never seen a more classless, clueless, thoughtless exit in my life. He took a bad process to dizzying new lows.
 
Regardless of how he left - he certainly didnt leave a MESS in my view - but what do I know, I am just a Bonehead poster on the Boneyard - like the rest of you.

Now - everybody kiss and make up, chest bump, whatever - but stop attacking one another - we are on the same team!!
 
Edsall left just like Diaco. One day he was at school A. The next he was at school B. That he didn't say goodbye personally doesn't really matter. They both had a day they left.
 
gioff23 said:
I hate to jump in to the fray, but I do dare you to name ONE other coach that left the way Randy did. I was a big fan while he was here, but I have never seen a more classless, clueless, thoughtless exit in my life. He took a bad process to dizzying new lows.
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Well Kiffin at Tennessee was probably worse.
 
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