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Randy Edsall: “If you have to convince kids to be here, it ain’t going to work”

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Irishfan said:
That‘s interesting. I honestly thought UConn had a good reputation. But if the people of the state of Connecticut don’t see it as a great school, why would some kid from Florida or Georgia aspire to go there. Evidently not for the quality of the football, or the quality of the education.
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It is tough to be a prophet in your own village. State U is too familiar to in-state kids. "I don't want to see every kid from Shelton High on campus!" Happens in any state with multiple outstanding schools in the area. In states where the State U is the best school, different story.
 
So much grief over a poor choice of words in a reasonable statement. Yes, a coach's job is to convince recruits to play for UConn. But the point is that the people who are going to come here are coming into a rebuild job with an empty stadium, an uncertain future as an independent and still building up a roster that can compete. He can tell them that if they're here for the long term he can make them better people and football players and there will be wins down the road. If they want instant gratification, to succeed without working harder than others, to have a full stadium rocking and a goody bag from a bowl in year 1, then they will be dissatisfied and bail and they might as well not bother.
 
Duncan Idaho said:
Irishfan is trolling again.
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I wonder if he ever took the campus tour at ND. I took it about fifteen years ago while attending a meeting at the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend. It relocated since then I believe.
At any rate, the campus tour guide told us ND was the school for the blue collar elite back in the 50's and 60's and populated mainly by the offspring of hard working blue collar immigrants. It was not an elite school but over time the alums donated enough money and the snob appeal factor kicked in. UConn was viewed as a "safe" school by Lobo's parents and much has changed in the past 25 years as shown by UConn's rating in US News and other rating forums.
 
Literally a handful of kids who where state residents and FBS level played here this year. The CIAC had a few and went P5 and a lot of the prep kids were from out of state.
 
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Watchdog said:
I wonder if he ever took the campus tour at ND. I took it about fifteen years ago while attending a meeting at the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend. It relocated since then I believe.
At any rate, the campus tour guide told us ND was the school for the blue collar elite back in the 50's and 60's and populated mainly by the offspring of hard working blue collar immigrants. It was not an elite school but over time the alums donated enough money and the snob appeal factor kicked in. UConn was viewed as a "safe" school by Lobo's parents and much has changed in the past 25 years as shown by UConn's rating in US News and other rating forums.
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HOF is in ATL now. I couldn’t get into UConn in the 80s. That was okay with me. I wanted to leave CT anyways and was the best choice for me personally.
 
Irishfan said:
Are you kidding. I don’t have to. The UConn fans here are trolling themselves better than I ever could.
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Lol. Everytime I see you and HartfordHank in threads I think of the name of the bar in From Dusk til Dawn.
 
Watchdog said:
I wonder if he ever took the campus tour at ND. I took it about fifteen years ago while attending a meeting at the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend. It relocated since then I believe.
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Yes, when I was out in South Bend in 2012 the College Football Hall of Fame had just shut down. It is now located in -- surprise! -- Atlanta, GA.

Fun fact: The Hall of Fame was first (early 1950s) supposed to be next to the stadium at Rutgers, but they were never able to raise the money needed. I guess they never thought about taking a cut of student fees until it was too late.
 
Watchdog said:
I wonder if he ever took the campus tour at ND. I took it about fifteen years ago while attending a meeting at the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend. It relocated since then I believe.
At any rate, the campus tour guide told us ND was the school for the blue collar elite back in the 50's and 60's and populated mainly by the offspring of hard working blue collar immigrants. It was not an elite school but over time the alums donated enough money and the snob appeal factor kicked in. UConn was viewed as a "safe" school by Lobo's parents and much has changed in the past 25 years as shown by UConn's rating in US News and other rating forums.
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I never took the campus tour. But saying that it was not an elite school in the 50’s and 60’s, but over time the alums donated enough money that the snob factor kicked in, seems to indicate that the campus tour guide is saying that ND is currently an elite school. I would concur with that position.
 
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Who can fault these kids for choosing any of the P5 schools based on the football experience as those schools are all superior to us, and many are better academically. Who can fault a legitimate D1 player if they want to go Ivy and make a marginal downgrade in the football "experience" (attendance etc.) while still having as good a shot at the NFL as from UConn, plus the huge academic boost. The comment from BLueandOG on kids wanting more of an adventure instead of being stuck in Storrs also works against us. At some point everything may change but these are some serious obstacles.
 
Waquoit said:
Randy stinks but CT HS coaches are worse. The only thing they seem to be good at is giving each other awards.
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The top talent in ct is always going to go to Clemson, Michigan, ND etc. they are not coming to Uconn. The lower tier players here are nothing special. Would rather get players from down south and texas
 
Slick said:
The top talent in ct is always going to go to Clemson, Michigan, ND etc. they are not coming to Uconn. The lower tier players here are nothing special. Would rather get players from down south and texas
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Texas is in the south. That discussion was resolved in the SNY TV rights thread.
 
Irishfan said:
simply your comment that “some Connecticut town‘s peer pressure to not consider UConn“. And your more recent comment that some Ct. residents do not believe that UConn is good enough. I had never considered the fact that there was a feeling amongst the population in Connecticut that UConn was not an acceptable place to further your education.
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Lots of tier 1 private schools around the Northeast.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
That's certainly a part of it, although UConn's rep is much better now among CT high school kids and parents than it was back when he was here before.

There is a massive trend in New England area kids going to southern and midwestern public schools. I know kids near me in the Boston suburbs who had only ACC and SEC schools on their list. It's a general trend, aside from athletes.

That said: As someone who went to Kansas for law school and saw Nebraska and Oklahoma games, if I was a football player, I wouldn't go to UConn over almost any P5 school. Those places just appreciate college football to a much greater extent.
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BlueandOG said:
It is tough to be a prophet in your own village. State U is too familiar to in-state kids. "I don't want to see every kid from Shelton High on campus!" Happens in any state with multiple outstanding schools in the area. In states where the State U is the best school, different story.
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Yeah, and these two quotes are why you need the kids to grow up UConn fans and see it as a place they can “make it” out of.

I was both of these. UConn was my dream school...as an athlete. But as a regular student I had little interest in going with 30% of my hs class. But if I was good enough as an athlete...I would’ve dealt with it and just flipped the bird to those people every time I saw them on campus.

Merry Christmas everyone. Hopefully RE’s recruits were the present the program needed to start the rebuild.
 
We will all miss Randy Edsall when he is gone. He is no Chatty Cathy, but when he does speak, people listen. They don't always agree but they take notice.
 
Just another part of his job that Randy wants a pass on.
Quite frankly, different sport but Jim Calhoun understood the importance and worked hard landing Chris Smith. While never the main thrust of our recruiting under Jim - it was an element with Scott Burrell, Edmund Saunders, Rash Jones and Doug Wiggins.
 
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If UConn wins they will come, if not they won't. The issue is the team hasn't been good in a number of years and those living in Connecticut that are under 17 don't remember the good days that well.

The class is decent and hit everything UConn needed in this class but they could use another lineman, running back, wide out and linebacker to finish out.
 
uconnbill said:
If UConn wins they will come, if not they won't. The issue is the team hasn't been good in a number of years and those living in Connecticut that are under 17 don't remember the good days that well.

The class is decent and hit everything UConn needed in this class but they could use another lineman, running back, wide out and linebacker to finish out.
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Over-all, I agree. This year’s class is decent. We are going to have some good young receivers. Now it’s up to Randy to identify and develop the QB, protect him with a OL and create a post 1950’s vintage offensive scheme. Is he up to it? TIme will tell.
 
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Chief00 said:
Over-all, I agree. This year’s class is decent. We are going to have some good young receivers. Now it’s up to Randy to identify and develop the QB, protect him with a OL and create a post 1950’s vintage offensive scheme. Is he up to it? TIme will tell.
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I actually think Senecal is the QB of the future.
 
Chief00 said:
Let’s assume he has the potential - who is going to coach him up?
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simpler question:

who is keeping him upright?
 
Sometimes students want to leave the state they grew up in and go where they might want to live. If you grew up in Connecticut and get recruited by UConn and Hawaii, and you like to surf in your spare time, you aren't staying in Connecticut to be a surfer. You will go to Hawaii for football and surfing.

If a Hawaiian who plays hockey is not going to study at Hawaii, he would go to a hockey playing school, like UConn.
 
Drew said:


This is also known as the definition of recruiting
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It is called recruiting. What player of ability would make the UCONN disaster, his first choice? None would.
 
raf46 said:
It is called recruiting. What player of ability would make the UCONN disaster, his first choice? None would.
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Thought that also but all these 20 recruits seem to have choices and see something in what HCRE2.0 is saying/showing and the players who are staying must not have given them the "don't do it buddy" sign. And with all the social media would think the recruits would contact each other some and discuss "opportunities" here. Overall, this recruiting class seems to fly in the face of my "fire him yesterday" position.
 
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