Randy Edsall: “If you have to convince kids to be here, it ain’t going to work”

[uconnfan68]

I actually think Senecal is the QB of the future.

The guy that isn’t here is always the future. ;^)

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

The guy that isn’t here is always the future. ;^)

Sure, but this Canadian guy’s also recovering from a torn ACL. SMH, yet hope he’s special.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The guy that isn’t here is always the future. ;^)

nah. From the first clips I saw I thought he was the guy. He’s going to be amazing. Like play in the NFL good. I feel it.

 

[noeynox]

nah. From the first clips I saw I thought he was the guy. He’s going to be amazing. Like play in the NFL good. I feel it.

The force is strong with this one.

 

[businesslawyer]

The guy that isn’t here is always the future. ;^)

1. Yes.

2. Even if Senecal is the QB of the future, between not having played American rules football, coming off an ACL tear and being a true freshman, he would have to be a lot better than whoever wins our battle to be #1 in camp (I'm guessing JZ but we'll see) before I'd play him more than the allowed 4 games and burn his redshirt. A lot better. Otherwise, let's see if he can win the starters spot for 2021.

 

[metsfan2323]

Let’s assume he has the potential - who is going to coach him up?

You do realize we have a QB coach don't you?

Moyseenko was a QB at Maryland so he might know a thing or two. JZ showed month to month improvement in year one as a true freshman so I think its safe to assume he was successfully "coached up". BTW in case you forgot Randy was a QB at Syracuse.

 

[hardcorehusky]

You do realize we have a QB coach don't you?

Moyseenko was a QB at Maryland so he might know a thing or two. JZ showed month to month improvement in year one as a true freshman so I think its safe to assume he was successfully "coached up". BTW in case you forgot Randy was a QB at Syracuse.

JZ's improvement in lofting balls was noticeable. His biggest jump for next year is reading defenses. He was really good at zipping outs and crossing patterns over the middle. Now he has to learn how to put it in between seams without the fastball and in the red zone find the right read quickly.

 

[Bongo Fury]

Senecal was originally looking to RS to adjust but if he is better he may play. Whoever starts, others will likely play due to injuries or inconsistent play.

 

[Husky68]

1. HCRE2.0 in 2019 picked the transfer kid to start;
2. Kid gets hurt and HCRE2.0 skips 2nd string red shirt freshman to play 3rd string real freshman for 2nd game of season, names him QB with "IT" and future starter (so if stays will be 4 year starter minus 1 game);
3. "IT" QB plays like "$$IT" and gets replaced by former (and current) 2nd string red shirt freshman; 2nd string guy plays ok, gets named future starter (seems like kiss of death) and before HCRE2.0 can put down the mike learn that 2nd string kid has been injured and out 6-8 weeks.
4. Back to "IT" with first game starter now back up and later in season red shirt freshman gets a few plays in.
5. HCRE2.0 mentions/implies the NCST transfer may be the "real deal", will have to wait and see as was hurt in 2019.
6. HCRE2.0 mentions/implies new freshman QB may be the "real deal".

Palatine would be more likely to pick the right starting QB than HCRE2.0.

 

[metsfan2323]

1. HCRE2.0 in 2019 picked the transfer kid to start;
2. Kid gets hurt and HCRE2.0 skips 2nd string red shirt freshman to play 3rd string real freshman for 2nd game of season, names him QB with "IT" and future starter (so if stays will be 4 year starter minus 1 game);
3. "IT" QB plays like "$$IT" and gets replaced by former (and current) 2nd string red shirt freshman; 2nd string guy plays ok, gets named future starter (seems like kiss of death) and before HCRE2.0 can put down the mike learn that 2nd string kid has been injured and out 6-8 weeks.
4. Back to "IT" with first game starter now back up and later in season red shirt freshman gets a few plays in.
5. HCRE2.0 mentions/implies the NCST transfer may be the "real deal", will have to wait and see as was hurt in 2019.
6. HCRE2.0 mentions/implies new freshman QB may be the "real deal".

Palatine would be more likely to pick the right starting QB than HCRE2.0.

Its not uncommon for a team that loses their previous year starting QB to search for their new starting QB at the beginning of a new season. It happens all the time. Practice is very different from the live game.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Its not uncommon for a team that loses their previous year starting QB to search for their new starting QB at the beginning of a new season. It happens all the time. Practice is very different from the live game.

Sure. But Randy misplayed his hand badly this year. Mostly with his absurd statements.

 

[metsfan2323]

Sure. But Randy misplayed his hand badly this year. Mostly with his absurd statements.

I don't think so, saying he misplayed his hand badly suggests we could have won more games with a different starter. I highly doubt it.

Absurd statements? Saying JZ has "it"? What else do you got?

 

[businesslawyer]

1. HCRE2.0 in 2019 picked the transfer kid to start;
2. Kid gets hurt and HCRE2.0 skips 2nd string red shirt freshman to play 3rd string real freshman for 2nd game of season, names him QB with "IT" and future starter (so if stays will be 4 year starter minus 1 game);
3. "IT" QB plays like "$$IT" and gets replaced by former (and current) 2nd string red shirt freshman; 2nd string guy plays ok, gets named future starter (seems like kiss of death) and before HCRE2.0 can put down the mike learn that 2nd string kid has been injured and out 6-8 weeks.
4. Back to "IT" with first game starter now back up and later in season red shirt freshman gets a few plays in.
5. HCRE2.0 mentions/implies the NCST transfer may be the "real deal", will have to wait and see as was hurt in 2019.
6. HCRE2.0 mentions/implies new freshman QB may be the "real deal".

Palatine would be more likely to pick the right starting QB than HCRE2.0.

Point of any of this? Would you have been happier if every time injury or decision forced a QB change the head coach didn't voice confidence in the new guy, but instead said "I'm really nervous about this decision. This guy may not be ready and if he does anything wrong I'll have to pull him." Of course not.

We sucked. Therefor, some of you feel the need to criticize words that you're nuts for relying on in the irst place. Coaches say what they want to say for various reason. (See, e.g., Calhoun, Jim, talking about Ajou Ajou Deng.) Simple solution -- don't pay attention to it. They make statements for their own purposes -- not to communicate the truth. Like politicians.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I don't think so, saying he misplayed his hand badly suggests we could have won more games with a different starter. I highly doubt it.

Absurd statements? Saying JZ has "it"? What else do you got?

Anointing JZ the long term starter then watching him be awful and replacing him with SK. Then saying the same about SK only to find he’s injured. He looked like a moron doing that. Like a guy who has no idea what his own players can do. It’s not confidence inspiring for the players or fans.
Nobody played like the long term answer last year.

 

[metsfan2323]

Anointing JZ the long term starter then watching him be awful and replacing him with SK. Then saying the same about SK only to find he’s injured. He looked like a moron doing that. Like a guy who has no idea what his own players can do. It’s not confidence inspiring for the players or fans.
Nobody played like the long term answer last year.

Except this board was also effusive in its praise of JZ following the Illinois game. He did look like the starter for the next three years and not for nothing there is a decent chance he will be the starter the next three years. I would not be surprised at all if he is on an NFL roster in 4 years, he has the physical talent.

 

[businesslawyer]

You do realize we have a QB coach don't you?

Moyseenko was a QB at Maryland so he might know a thing or two. JZ showed month to month improvement in year one as a true freshman so I think its safe to assume he was successfully "coached up". BTW in case you forgot Randy was a QB at Syracuse.

Yes, but see, Edsall sucks so therefor absolutely every little thing being done by Edsall and the staff must by definition be wrong. Haven't the anti--Edsallistas made that clear?

 

[businesslawyer]

Sure. But Randy misplayed his hand badly this year. Mostly with his absurd statements.

Seriously? Which of his absurd statements led to a pick 6? Which of his absurd statements led to JZ taking an absurd sack when he had no one open and all day to throw it away?

 

[businesslawyer]

Nobody played like the long term answer last year.

Don't fully agree. Was JZ ready to be the long term answer last year out of the box? No. Did he show the potential that he very well might be the long term answer over his career here? Heck yes.

 

[kemba]

Funny how the same people who say Edsall is always blaming the players and saying they aren't good enough then mock him all year for saying something positive about one of them.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Don't fully agree. Was JZ ready to be the long term answer last year out of the box? No. Did he show the potential that he very well might be the long term answer over his career here? Heck yes.

I liked his improvement. But he sure didn’t look that way when Randy said it or shortly after. It was a competition and will be next year and should be every year. I’m not saying he cost us games, just that he sent the wrong message, multiple times. I’m not a Randy basher or defender.

JZ was good vs Illinois -> Randy anoints him
Terrible vs IU and SK finished game
JZ terrible to start vs UCF, SK comes in and plays well -> Randy anoints him but he’s injured
Beaudry starts vs USF showing just how bad JZ was in the prior two games
Beaudry bad vs Tulane and JZ gets job back