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Race for 1 Seed (2/5)

Hurleyman216 said:
What you fail to acknowledge is that we didn’t play very good defense early in the season but the team steadily improved and was a much different team on the defensive side of the ball in March than they were in November. The KP numbers were an aggregate of the whole season, but they didn’t give you a real time view of how teams were playing going into the tournament. We had the offensive power to play with anyone last year, but the defense was lacking. When we did play better defense we were a top 10 caliber team. Florida easily could have lost that game if they didn’t shoot 12 more FT’s or we didn’t shoot well below our average from 3. They were not really the power house you’re describing and your take on this is hilariously bad.
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I think you meant to respond to the other dude. He thinks we were CCSU going up against 1990 UNLV for some reason, and can’t be told otherwise
 
UConNick said:
Reading the last two pages of this thread is 10 minutes I’ll never get back.

The one seed chances obviously took a hit with the loss last week, but maybe only a small one. And even though they lost, Duke is still likely ahead of us on the s-curve. That said, I’m not sure we fall from that fourth one seed slot. Houston and ISU are great but don’t have as many big-time wins as we do (though they’ve got a lot of chances coming up), and that loss to Cincy by the Cyclones is pretty funny.

I’ve got an s-curve that looks like this: 1. AZ, 2. Mich, 3. Duke, 4. Us, 5. Hou, 6. ISU, 7. Neb, 8. Ill.

As before, we have to continue doing what we’ve generally been good at doing this season: find a way to win.
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What you have is what the S Curve should be (maybe before Arizona's loss last night). What the Committee has is probably more like
1. Michigan
2. Arizona
3. Duke
4. Houston
5. ISU
6. UConn
7. Nebraska (might be Illinois if Nebraska loses to Purdue tonight)
8. Kansas (good God do they love Kansas)

And they'd put ISU with Duke and us with Houston to avoid the Big XII Elite 8 matchup.
 
CTGoonie said:
This time last year Houston could not have played in the South because they were the host. Their AD successfully got them off the hook as the host (I think Rice is now the host) so they will likely play there as the 1 or 2 seed.
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Same level of sketchiness as UNC getting in last year when their AD was the Committee chair and there were (at least) a handful of more deserving teams. The AD apparently “recused” himself from any discussions about UNC which totally made it legit. I’m sure.
 
RuffRuff said:
F68 bracket - for all the talk about rather being a 2 seed in the East, would you rather play Virginia in the S16 or Kansas? I'll take the 1 in the South, take Va/Houston vs Kansas/Duke.

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Duke is better than Houston, but UH is a worse matchup and we’d play them in a defacto road game. Sampson is also a better coach than Scheyer, who I think Hurley can work around.

That said, I do also want the 1 seed for the ego boost
 
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FightOnCT said:
Duke is better than Houston, but UH is a worse matchup and we’d play them in a defacto road game. Sampson is also a better coach than Scheyer, who I think Hurley can work around.

That said, I do also want the 1 seed for the ego boost
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I tend to think looking that far ahead is too much - we need to get there first. So do they. You're right about coaching - Sampson is also due, and I get the sense he really wants it this year as he doens't have one yet and has an offensive tool that he's never had before in Flemming. Playing Duke in DC will have a strong Duke crowd.
 
When does the committee release the top 16 seeds? Is that still a thing they do early?
 
Mr. French said:
ESPN Bracketology as of today still has UConn 1 seed. In Philly.

www.espn.com

Men's Bracketology: North Carolina is doing North Carolina things again

Right now, it's about looking beyond UNC's numbers and taking into account the context that has the Tar Heels as a 4-seed.
www.espn.com
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We got it alright - BM has about 80% of their brackets with Uconn as the 1. http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

We need to hold on tight now. I can eat losing on the road to StJ, we shouldn't lose another game if we are legit.
 
Inyatkin said:
Come on now. We played against the team that won it all, and we didn't get "simply overpowered." We're also better this year than last year.

You say some weird stuff.
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Along with him saying, "Right now everyone is seeing AZ & UM as the final."

In RuffRuff's world he is everyone.
 
superjohn said:
Along with him saying, "Right now everyone is seeing AZ & UM as the final."

In RuffRuff's world he is everyone.
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Don’t get him going again. One of the weirdest crash outs I’ve seen on here
 
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superjohn said:
Along with him saying, "Right now everyone is seeing AZ & UM as the final."

In RuffRuff's world he is everyone.
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Ah, no. I know there is a refusal or want to see what the outside world is seeing here (you are an extreme case), but it's how a lot of the national media is seeing it. AZ & UM are a "cut above", yada. Hard to argue it for now as the metrics and Vegas support. This doesn't have to be offensive to UConn fans - we can be perfectly happy proving them otherwise.
 
After this weekend, it seems the order of No. 1 seeds would be:

1. Michigan
2. Duke
3. Arizona
4. UConn
5. Houston
6. Iowa St.
7. Purdue

Huge matchups this week:

Michigan plays @Purdue, and Duke in DC.

Duke plays Michigan in DC.

Arizona is home to BYU and @Houston.

UConn is @Villanova.

Houston is @Iowa St, and home for Arizona.

Iowa St is home to Houston and @BYU

If we can beat Creighton and Villanova this week we will continue to be in good shape for a 1 seed.

I think our best bet is for Purdue to beat Michigan, Michigan to beat Duke, Iowa St to beat Houston, BYU to beat Iowa St, and Houston to beat Arizona.

That would leave Michigan with 2 losses, Duke, Arizona and Houston with 3 losses, and Iowa St with 4 losses.
 
BFieldHusky said:
After this weekend, it seems the order of No. 1 seeds would be:

1. Michigan
2. Duke
3. Arizona
4. UConn
5. Houston
6. Iowa St.
7. Purdue

Huge matchups this week:

Michigan plays @Purdue, and Duke in DC.

Duke plays Michigan in DC.

Arizona is home to BYU and @Houston.

UConn is @Villanova.

Houston is @Iowa St, and home for Arizona.

Iowa St is home to Houston and @BYU

If we can beat Creighton and Villanova this week we will continue to be in good shape for a 1 seed.

I think our best bet is for Purdue to beat Michigan, Michigan to beat Duke, Iowa St to beat Houston, BYU to beat Iowa St, and Houston to beat Arizona.

That would leave Michigan with 2 losses, Duke, Arizona and Houston with 3 losses, and Iowa St with 4 losses.
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We might just want Michigan to win out. I don't think it's likely we catch them considering the current gap in both wab and the predictives, so better to put Purdue and Duke both down relative to us.

We need to start the media campaign to push WAB over the quads. Too many big east teams just past 75. If the committee indexes on the quads in discussion, we will be disadvantaged.

Get on the wires UConn AD.
 
auror said:
We might just want Michigan to win out. I don't think it's likely we catch them considering the current gap in both wab and the predictives, so better to put Purdue and Duke both down relative to us.

We need to start the media campaign to push WAB over the quads. Too many big east teams just past 75. If the committee indexes on the quads in discussion, we will be disadvantaged.

Get on the wires UConn AD.
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Yes. It's better for us if michigan beats duke, since they're going to chicago, rather than competing with us for DC.
 
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auror said:
We might just want Michigan to win out. I don't think it's likely we catch them considering the current gap in both wab and the predictives, so better to put Purdue and Duke both down relative to us.

We need to start the media campaign to push WAB over the quads. Too many big east teams just past 75. If the committee indexes on the quads in discussion, we will be disadvantaged.

Get on the wires UConn AD.
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With the Houston loss last night, we just need to win out. These are games we should win, and right the ship a bit. Would rather win into a good situation than backdoor, while gaining momentum.
 
RuffRuff said:
With the Houston loss last night, we just need to win out. These are games we should win, and right the ship a bit. Would rather win into a good situation than backdoor, while gaining momentum.
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I am very worried about Villanova at Villanova. More because of how we are playing than them. And St John’s dominated us in “our second home.” Yeah, it’s theirs too, but nobody gets all hot and bothered about MSG like UConn fans. (After 50 years as a UConn fan I still don’t understand it. Give most UConn fans the choice of a 3-some with their choice is 2 top models of the year or go to MSG, UConn fans are the only people on earth who would choose MSG). I don’t have confidence that we will get through the rest of the year without a couple of additional losses. I hope we do, but Georgetown was very disappointing.
 
freescooter said:
I am very worried about Villanova at Villanova. More because of how we are playing than them. And St John’s dominated us in “our second home.” Yeah, it’s theirs too, but nobody gets all hot and bothered about MSG like UConn fans. (After 50 years as a UConn fan I still don’t understand it. Give most UConn fans the choice of a 3-some with their choice is 2 top models of the year or go to MSG, UConn fans are the only people on earth who would choose MSG). I don’t have confidence that we will get through the rest of the year without a couple of additional losses. I hope we do, but Georgetown was very disappointing.
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You need to define “dominated” vis a vis St. Johns. Because the game I watched, we did tons of crap poorly but were right there after the last TV time out before we stopped hitting any free throws.
 
Go ahead and yell at me, but I'd rather be a 2 seed in the East than a 1 seed in the South, with Houston as the 2. And it's not even close.
 
pepband99 said:
Go ahead and yell at me, but I'd rather be a 2 seed in the East than a 1 seed in the South, with Houston as the 2. And it's not even close.
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I wouldn't - 3 seeds much better than the 4. S16 would then be team like:

Difference will be playing a Kansas, Florida, Texas Tech

vs

Gonzaga, Vandy, Virginia.

3 seeds might be as good as 2 seeds, 4 seeds closer to 5.

I would rather roll the dice there than looking to avoid Houston in the Elite 8. They'll have to play one of those 3 seeds instead and could easily lose.
 
businesslawyer said:
You need to define “dominated” vis a vis St. Johns. Because the game I watched, we did tons of crap poorly but were right there after the last TV time out before we stopped hitting any free throws.
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We did some stuff poorly. We did other stuff poorly because they forced us into it. At least that was how I saw it.
 
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I understand the argument for being a 2 in DC vs. a 1 in Houston. But Ruff’s right, it’s way more advantageous to play one of the teams in the 4 area vs. a 3.

In my personal bracketology (which I’ve refrained from posting for fear of getting flamed), my 3s are Nebraska, Florida, Kansas, and Vanderbilt. My 4s are Gonzaga, Michigan St, TTU, and Virginia. As a group, which scares you more?
 
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