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Race for 1 Seed (2/5)

The evidence we could beat them is the real life game that happened in the round of 32. If you think a 2 point loss means Florida would win 10 of 10 times then you're even dumber than I originally thought
He is that dumb @navery12 as he continues to double and triple down on this take.
 
Reading the last two pages of this thread is 10 minutes I’ll never get back.

The one seed chances obviously took a hit with the loss last week, but maybe only a small one. And even though they lost, Duke is still likely ahead of us on the s-curve. That said, I’m not sure we fall from that fourth one seed slot. Houston and ISU are great but don’t have as many big-time wins as we do (though they’ve got a lot of chances coming up), and that loss to Cincy by the Cyclones is pretty funny.

I’ve got an s-curve that looks like this: 1. AZ, 2. Mich, 3. Duke, 4. Us, 5. Hou, 6. ISU, 7. Neb, 8. Ill.

As before, we have to continue doing what we’ve generally been good at doing this season: find a way to win.
 
The evidence we could beat them is the real life game that happened in the round of 32. If you think a 2 point loss means Florida would win 10 of 10 times then you're even dumber than I originally thought
What do you think KP would say when theirs was 16 pts higher than ours? Let me answer that for you - 10/10. We didn’t beat better than a 8 seed all year and we think we’d beat the best team in the country. There is a small group here that gets but hurt when their imaginations are contested. We lost - we were down 7 under a minute. Any game after that would be an even heavier favorite to FL. The more talented team will have the advantage the more a times they play a team. You can only surprise a team once.
 
We did - and we lost. And they are titanically better than last years team. Better at each position on floor. We didn’t beat anything better than an 8 seed last year. There is no evidence we’d beat them, as they beat a great field and had a dominant year.

I’m using data and info and you’re using hunches? Their KP was 15 pts higher than ours. I think if you ran it on KP, Florida would win the next 9. So we should go on your hunch?
I can’t even follow what you’re arguing anymore. “They are titanically better than last year’s team.” Who? Florida? What are we even talking about?

You made one dumb point— that last year’s team had no shot against the Final Four teams— which is disproven by the actual game, and you keep repeating yourself.

I’d block you but you post so much every thread would be (even more) unreadable
 
What do you think KP would say when theirs was 16 pts higher than ours? Let me answer that for you - 10/10. We didn’t beat better than a 8 seed all year and we think we’d beat the best team in the country. There is a small group here that gets but hurt when their imaginations are contested. We lost - we were down 7 under a minute. Any game after that would be an even heavier favorite to FL. The more talented team will have the advantage the more a times they play a team. You can only surprise a team once.
You seem to lack a basic understanding of probability and odds, I wouldn't even discuss that with you let alone the intricacies of advanced metrics. It is possible that we were not a good team and also that the odds of winning a single game in a 10 game series is not 0
 
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@RuffRuff man you need to sit this one out for a little…your takes are so bad and incredibly twisted reality. We lost by 2 to a team that shot 12 more FT’s and we shot about 10% below our average from 3. Even with that Florida needed some lucky bounces and late game heroics to beat us. They were not some unbeatable powerhouse (for reference see 2024 UConn)
 
What you fail to acknowledge is that we didn’t play very good defense early in the season but the team steadily improved and was a much different team on the defensive side of the ball in March than they were in November. The KP numbers were an aggregate of the whole season, but they didn’t give you a real time view of how teams were playing going into the tournament. We had the offensive power to play with anyone last year, but the defense was lacking. When we did play better defense we were a top 10 caliber team. Florida easily could have lost that game if they didn’t shoot 12 more FT’s or we didn’t shoot well below our average from 3. They were not really the power house you’re describing and your take on this is hilariously bad.
I think you meant to respond to the other dude. He thinks we were CCSU going up against 1990 UNLV for some reason, and can’t be told otherwise
 
Reading the last two pages of this thread is 10 minutes I’ll never get back.

The one seed chances obviously took a hit with the loss last week, but maybe only a small one. And even though they lost, Duke is still likely ahead of us on the s-curve. That said, I’m not sure we fall from that fourth one seed slot. Houston and ISU are great but don’t have as many big-time wins as we do (though they’ve got a lot of chances coming up), and that loss to Cincy by the Cyclones is pretty funny.

I’ve got an s-curve that looks like this: 1. AZ, 2. Mich, 3. Duke, 4. Us, 5. Hou, 6. ISU, 7. Neb, 8. Ill.

As before, we have to continue doing what we’ve generally been good at doing this season: find a way to win.
What you have is what the S Curve should be (maybe before Arizona's loss last night). What the Committee has is probably more like
1. Michigan
2. Arizona
3. Duke
4. Houston
5. ISU
6. UConn
7. Nebraska (might be Illinois if Nebraska loses to Purdue tonight)
8. Kansas (good God do they love Kansas)

And they'd put ISU with Duke and us with Houston to avoid the Big XII Elite 8 matchup.
 
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This time last year Houston could not have played in the South because they were the host. Their AD successfully got them off the hook as the host (I think Rice is now the host) so they will likely play there as the 1 or 2 seed.
Same level of sketchiness as UNC getting in last year when their AD was the Committee chair and there were (at least) a handful of more deserving teams. The AD apparently “recused” himself from any discussions about UNC which totally made it legit. I’m sure.
 
F68 bracket - for all the talk about rather being a 2 seed in the East, would you rather play Virginia in the S16 or Kansas? I'll take the 1 in the South, take Va/Houston vs Kansas/Duke.


Duke is better than Houston, but UH is a worse matchup and we’d play them in a defacto road game. Sampson is also a better coach than Scheyer, who I think Hurley can work around.

That said, I do also want the 1 seed for the ego boost
 
Duke is better than Houston, but UH is a worse matchup and we’d play them in a defacto road game. Sampson is also a better coach than Scheyer, who I think Hurley can work around.

That said, I do also want the 1 seed for the ego boost
I tend to think looking that far ahead is too much - we need to get there first. So do they. You're right about coaching - Sampson is also due, and I get the sense he really wants it this year as he doens't have one yet and has an offensive tool that he's never had before in Flemming. Playing Duke in DC will have a strong Duke crowd.
 
When does the committee release the top 16 seeds? Is that still a thing they do early?
 
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ESPN Bracketology as of today still has UConn 1 seed. In Philly.

We got it alright - BM has about 80% of their brackets with Uconn as the 1. http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

We need to hold on tight now. I can eat losing on the road to StJ, we shouldn't lose another game if we are legit.
 
Come on now. We played against the team that won it all, and we didn't get "simply overpowered." We're also better this year than last year.

You say some weird stuff.
Along with him saying, "Right now everyone is seeing AZ & UM as the final."

In RuffRuff's world he is everyone.
 
Along with him saying, "Right now everyone is seeing AZ & UM as the final."

In RuffRuff's world he is everyone.
Don’t get him going again. One of the weirdest crash outs I’ve seen on here
 
Along with him saying, "Right now everyone is seeing AZ & UM as the final."

In RuffRuff's world he is everyone.
Ah, no. I know there is a refusal or want to see what the outside world is seeing here (you are an extreme case), but it's how a lot of the national media is seeing it. AZ & UM are a "cut above", yada. Hard to argue it for now as the metrics and Vegas support. This doesn't have to be offensive to UConn fans - we can be perfectly happy proving them otherwise.
 
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After this weekend, it seems the order of No. 1 seeds would be:

1. Michigan
2. Duke
3. Arizona
4. UConn
5. Houston
6. Iowa St.
7. Purdue

Huge matchups this week:

Michigan plays @Purdue, and Duke in DC.

Duke plays Michigan in DC.

Arizona is home to BYU and @Houston.

UConn is @Villanova.

Houston is @Iowa St, and home for Arizona.

Iowa St is home to Houston and @BYU

If we can beat Creighton and Villanova this week we will continue to be in good shape for a 1 seed.

I think our best bet is for Purdue to beat Michigan, Michigan to beat Duke, Iowa St to beat Houston, BYU to beat Iowa St, and Houston to beat Arizona.

That would leave Michigan with 2 losses, Duke, Arizona and Houston with 3 losses, and Iowa St with 4 losses.
 
After this weekend, it seems the order of No. 1 seeds would be:

1. Michigan
2. Duke
3. Arizona
4. UConn
5. Houston
6. Iowa St.
7. Purdue

Huge matchups this week:

Michigan plays @Purdue, and Duke in DC.

Duke plays Michigan in DC.

Arizona is home to BYU and @Houston.

UConn is @Villanova.

Houston is @Iowa St, and home for Arizona.

Iowa St is home to Houston and @BYU

If we can beat Creighton and Villanova this week we will continue to be in good shape for a 1 seed.

I think our best bet is for Purdue to beat Michigan, Michigan to beat Duke, Iowa St to beat Houston, BYU to beat Iowa St, and Houston to beat Arizona.

That would leave Michigan with 2 losses, Duke, Arizona and Houston with 3 losses, and Iowa St with 4 losses.
We might just want Michigan to win out. I don't think it's likely we catch them considering the current gap in both wab and the predictives, so better to put Purdue and Duke both down relative to us.

We need to start the media campaign to push WAB over the quads. Too many big east teams just past 75. If the committee indexes on the quads in discussion, we will be disadvantaged.

Get on the wires UConn AD.
 
We might just want Michigan to win out. I don't think it's likely we catch them considering the current gap in both wab and the predictives, so better to put Purdue and Duke both down relative to us.

We need to start the media campaign to push WAB over the quads. Too many big east teams just past 75. If the committee indexes on the quads in discussion, we will be disadvantaged.

Get on the wires UConn AD.
Yes. It's better for us if michigan beats duke, since they're going to chicago, rather than competing with us for DC.
 
We might just want Michigan to win out. I don't think it's likely we catch them considering the current gap in both wab and the predictives, so better to put Purdue and Duke both down relative to us.

We need to start the media campaign to push WAB over the quads. Too many big east teams just past 75. If the committee indexes on the quads in discussion, we will be disadvantaged.

Get on the wires UConn AD.
With the Houston loss last night, we just need to win out. These are games we should win, and right the ship a bit. Would rather win into a good situation than backdoor, while gaining momentum.
 
With the Houston loss last night, we just need to win out. These are games we should win, and right the ship a bit. Would rather win into a good situation than backdoor, while gaining momentum.
I am very worried about Villanova at Villanova. More because of how we are playing than them. And St John’s dominated us in “our second home.” Yeah, it’s theirs too, but nobody gets all hot and bothered about MSG like UConn fans. (After 50 years as a UConn fan I still don’t understand it. Give most UConn fans the choice of a 3-some with their choice is 2 top models of the year or go to MSG, UConn fans are the only people on earth who would choose MSG). I don’t have confidence that we will get through the rest of the year without a couple of additional losses. I hope we do, but Georgetown was very disappointing.
 
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