Race for 1 Seed (2/5)

[RuffRuff]

Your worst take in weeks. Congrats

It's literally hysterical that you think that Uconn team would have ANY ability to do anything against those F4 teams. That's when I KNOW there is zero objectivity. Did you see Maui? Did you watch the BE tournament? That Florida game was a nice flukey consolation prize. We were fighting to get into the tournament. We would have gone 0-12 if we played those 4 teams 3x. '

Why even pretend? I don't get it. Is it soothing? You're acting like that UConn team was F4 caliber? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? It was a bad basketball team by Uconn standards. That was one of the more dominant F4's of all time. And you think it's an awful take? Let me get every national analyst to weigh in and see what they think.

Well that tracks. When you only have negative/contrarian views on the dominant program of the last 3-4 years, then your views are inherently stupid.

I'll be the first one to acknowledge how good the 23-24 teams were. Last year that team wasn't good. It's well documented. Yet for some reason we want to hold on to some mirage that they were F4 caliber? Give.me.a.break.

 

[RuffRuff]

lol if we played them 9 more times and Florida played the way they played in that game the other 9 times we’d probably win most all of them. Our best shooters bricked wide open 3s the whole game and we still almost won.

Here's the catch - they likely wouldn't play the way they did that game. They won the NC against one of the stronger fields in recent memory. Certain posters here want to translate select outcomes as a team that was NC caliber.

Last years team stunk. They caught an exceptional Florida team off guard.

 

[AllHusky]

Oh Ruff Ruff, I really thought you had turned the corner a week or so ago. You are the posting equivalent of how many feel about Malachi, virtually unplay(read)able. I don't feel that way about Malachi, just think there is a way to unlock his potential through the substitution patterns as well as reinforcing what his game should look like. Hope the key is found in the next few weeks, both for Malachi and Ruff Ruff!!

 

[7774]

Here's the catch - they likely wouldn't play the way they did that game. They won the NC against one of the stronger fields in recent memory. Certain posters here want to translate select outcomes as a team that was NC caliber.

Last years team stunk. They caught an exceptional Florida team off guard.

You have a hilariously poor understanding of what the sport of college basketball is at its core. You prove it with every post.

 

[uconngb]

Come on now. We played against the team that won it all, and we didn't get "simply overpowered." We're also better this year than last year.

You say some weird stuff.

SOME????

 

[RuffRuff]

You have a hilariously poor understanding of what the sport of college basketball is at its core. You prove it with every post.

And what is that? Please explain with your widsom. I think I know what that is. If it's the cinderella run thing, then I'm sorry to disappoint you that those are going away fast.

We had no chance to go deep last year. I know we like to cling to that notion.

 

[Inyatkin]

It's literally hysterical that you think that Uconn team would have ANY ability to do anything against those F4 teams. That's when I KNOW there is zero objectivity. Did you see Maui? Did you watch the BE tournament? That Florida game was a nice flukey consolation prize. We were fighting to get into the tournament. We would have gone 0-12 if we played those 4 teams 3x. '

Why even pretend? I don't get it. Is it soothing? You're acting like that UConn team was F4 caliber? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? It was a bad basketball team by Uconn standards. That was one of the more dominant F4's of all time. And you think it's an awful take? Let me get every national analyst to weigh in and see what they think.

I'll be the first one to acknowledge how good the 23-24 teams were. Last year that team wasn't good. It's well documented. Yet for some reason we want to hold on to some mirage that they were F4 caliber? Give.me.a.break.

YOU’RE DOING HYPOTHETICALS ON A GAME WE ALL SAW!

Honestly insane

 

[RuffRuff]

YOU’RE DOING HYPOTHETICALS ON A GAME WE ALL SAW!

Honestly insane

What is your take man? That we had a team that could go into that F4 and win games? I'm honesty not sure what your take is? That we were as good as Florida? What is your contrary take? I'd like to hear it. Lay it out for me. Pose the argument rather than call out the poster. I'm saying last years Uconn team would go 0-12 against last year's F4. What is your view?

 

[7774]

And what is that? Please explain with your widsom. I think I know what that is. If it's the cinderella run thing, then I'm sorry to disappoint you that those are going away fast.

We had no chance to go deep last year. I know we like to cling to that notion.

You're talking about the Florida juggernaut that was down 9 to Texas Tech with 3 minutes to go in the tournament and had to pull that game out right? Yeah I don't know how any team would be able to beat that team even once if they played 10 times.

 

[RuffRuff]

You're talking about the Florida juggernaut that was down 9 to Texas Tech with 3 minutes to go in the tournament and had to pull that game out right? Yeah I don't know how any team would be able to beat that team even once if they played 10 times.

Texas Tech was a really good 3 seed. We were an 8 seed.

We didn't beat anyone better than an 8 seed that whole year.

Florida's case vs. 2024 UConn, 2001 Duke to be considered 21st century's best college basketball champion

The Gators had a historically treacherous path and a historically high finish at KenPom

www.cbssports.com

 

[Inyatkin]

What is your take man? That we had a team that could go into that F4 and win games? I'm honesty not sure what your take is? That we were as good as Florida? What is your contrary take? I'd like to hear it. Lay it out for me. Pose the argument rather than call out the poster. I'm saying last years Uconn team would go 0-12 against last year's F4. What is your view?

My take is that we played Florida and led for 38 minutes. If we’d been blown out I’m still not sure we go 0-12, but we didn’t. To say we’d have no chance flies in the face of what we all watched.

You’re so convinced the analytics have the answers that you ignore games as they actually happen

 

[FightOnCT]

Here's the catch - they likely wouldn't play the way they did that game. They won the NC against one of the stronger fields in recent memory. Certain posters here want to translate select outcomes as a team that was NC caliber.

Last years team stunk. They caught an exceptional Florida team off guard.

Florida had an incredibly flimsy run where they were playing catchup to all sorts of opponents and if I can recall, we attempted about 14 more shots than they did and uncharacteristically bricked them. They also swatted rebounds into Florida’s hands at the FT line.

 

[Inyatkin]

No one is arguing we were a title contender other than in some fluke run. We are taking issue with the idea that we couldn’t possibly beat Florida, when, in the real world, that nearly happened

Honestly hard to see how that’s controversial

 

[KingAG]

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[KingAG]

. Yet for some reason we want to hold on to some mirage that they were F4 caliber? Give.me.a.break.

Here you go lying again. Please point me to who said this.

You are the king of strawman arguments

 

[BFieldHusky]

What is your take man? That we had a team that could go into that F4 and win games? I'm honesty not sure what your take is? That we were as good as Florida? What is your contrary take? I'd like to hear it. Lay it out for me. Pose the argument rather than call out the poster. I'm saying last years Uconn team would go 0-12 against last year's F4. What is your view?

My take, and I believe others as well, is not that we had a team that was destined to go to the Final 4, or a team as good as Florida. The beauty of the NCAA tournament that you seem to gloss over REPEATEDLY, is that in March you only need to beat a team once. And last year, in a game we all saw, UConn lost to Florida by 2, while shooting 28%, being outrebounded by 5, and being -12 in FTs.

I have no idea if UConn would have gone 0-12 against Florida, Houston, Duke and Auburn if they played them 3x. What I know is what I saw...we went toe to toe with Florida while playing our B game. It's not a hypothetical, it's a fact.

You look like an idiot with these takes. One game to another, especially in the tournament, doesn't always lead to success or failure. In 2014, we needed a miracle 3 point play by AB to even force OT in the 1st round against a 10th seeded St. Joe's. That shouldn't have led to a championship run, but it did. That's sports.

 

[FightOnCT]

Here's the catch - they likely wouldn't play the way they did that game. They won the NC against one of the stronger fields in recent memory. Certain posters here want to translate select outcomes as a team that was NC caliber.

Last years team stunk. They caught an exceptional Florida team off guard.

Florida had an incredibly flimsy run where they were playing catchup to all sorts of opponents and if I can recall, we attempted about 14 more shots than they did and uncharacteristically bricked them. They also swatted rebounds into Florida’s hands at the FT line.

Maybe they wouldn’t play the same way in a best of 10, but that’s the basis of a single-elimination tournament. Can’t even say the team stunk last year because they wouldn’t have been an 8 seed if they did with multiple Q1A wins. And that’s including the Seton Hall loss. Based on how UConn-Florida played out, you’d logically assume UConn could take at least one in a 10 game series anyways.

I personally agree with your takes usually on recruits and criticisms of teams including ours, but I disagree with the overall value you place on them. UConn was mid but not terrible, Florida was great but not exceptional.

 

[RuffRuff]

Florida had an incredibly flimsy run where they were playing catchup to all sorts of opponents and if I can recall, we attempted about 14 more shots than they did and uncharacteristically bricked them. They also swatted rebounds into Florida’s hands at the FT line.

Flimsy run? They went through one of the better fields in the past 20 years. They had a higher KP than the 2024 Uconn team. (article above). They won a conference tourney that was called one of the best conferences ever. The REALISTIC take would be that Uconn's unique system took them by surprise, and that the much better team would have adjusted and figured it out in ensuing games. It wasn't a two point game - McNeeley made a prayer back door three on the back end. That Florida team had an all star front court, an AA PG and two really good off guards. They were better than Uconn at every position on the court. Every single one.

The distortion of reality is uncanny. It's because we didn't blow out the field like a UConn team did, it's a "flimsy" run. Everything is twisted to glorify UConn and disregard the accomplishments of other programs.

Florida's case vs. 2024 UConn, 2001 Duke to be considered 21st century's best college basketball champion

The Gators had a historically treacherous path and a historically high finish at KenPom

www.cbssports.com

 

[FightOnCT]

1. KenPom’s adujsted NET ratings are NOT meant to be compared across different seasons. They are all relative to their own given years, and last year could be explained by the possibility that the field had less parity than usual seeing as how chalk the tourney went.

2. The run was objectively flimsy. Multiple comebacks from behind reliant on timely shots, missed FTs, missed rebounds, etc. I said the team was great, but at least 3 games where if the perfect circumstances don’t land, and they’re out. Could’ve been as early as the 2nd round.

3. Lmao a 5 point vs 2 point game changes absolutely nothing to the point, I saw the game too. Did you not think we had chance to win or something? UConn had a lead late and fumbled it. In fact, you yourself had mentioned the fact that we significantly outshot them, which would usually translate to a win. That’s why I even brought it up.

4. My guy, we’re not Florida fans, it’s ok to recognize a great team had a flimsy run 😭. I purposefully didn’t compare them to ‘24 UConn.

 

[Inyatkin]

He likes being yelled at online. It’s the only explanation

 

[RuffRuff]

He likes being yelled at online. It’s the only explanation

BY Honesty Broker🤣

 

[Inyatkin]

BY Honesty Broker🤣

I might choose a different title

 

[7774]

BY Honesty Broker🤣

It’s not honestly, it’s just what extremely low brain function perceives as honesty.

 

[RuffRuff]

It’s not honestly, it’s just what extremely low brain function perceives as honesty.

Using personal insults is typically seen as a low form of brain functionality. All I try to do is position some truth that isn't one sided.

 

[huskyharry]

So if we had our choice, would we pick 1 seed in the south with Houston as the 2 or 2 seed in the East with Duke as the 1? Our record is the same in either scenario, but just a question if you had a choice.

Very happy with either…or any other one or two seed TBH

 

[Inyatkin]

Using personal insults is typically seen as a low form of brain functionality. All I try to do is position some truth that isn't one sided.

It’s not one sided to acknowledge a game that actually happened rather than pretend it didn’t

We played Florida close. That happened. This whole argument is you trying to say that real event we all witnessed was actually impossible

 

[7774]

Using personal insults is typically seen as a low form of brain functionality. All I try to do is position some truth that isn't one sided.

Yeah that’s something idiots came up with to make themselves feel better about their low level of ability. Basically everything you say is just your opinion which you state as truth.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Here's the catch - they likely wouldn't play the way they did that game. They won the NC against one of the stronger fields in recent memory. Certain posters here want to translate select outcomes as a team that was NC caliber.

Last years team stunk. They caught an exceptional Florida team off guard.

Texas Tech was a really good 3 seed. We were an 8 seed.

We didn't beat anyone better than an 8 seed that whole year.

Florida's case vs. 2024 UConn, 2001 Duke to be considered 21st century's best college basketball champion

The Gators had a historically treacherous path and a historically high finish at KenPom

www.cbssports.com

Late to this game, but I want to put my two cents in on your "one of the stronger fields in recent memory" comment, but I also want to seriously question the article you linked, which claims last year's Florida team was better than the prior year's UConn team.

For openers, no team last year would have been able to pull off a single digit loss against either 2024 UConn or 2024 Purdue. I'm not sure anyone could have handled 2024 Alabama.

Next, I want to know what hallucinogens the author of that article was experimenting with when he viewed 25 Florida being superior to 24 UConn as a legitimate premise. Our defense would have clamped down their perimeter shooting and they would have had less success in close than Illinois.

It baffles me that people have forgotten about our 24 team in such a short amount of time.

 

[RuffRuff]

It’s not one sided to acknowledge a game that actually happened rather than pretend it didn’t

We played Florida close. That happened. This whole argument is you trying to say that real event we all witnessed was actually impossible

We did - and we lost. And they are titanically better than last years team. Better at each position on floor. We didn’t beat anything better than an 8 seed last year. There is no evidence we’d beat them, as they beat a great field and had a dominant year.

Yeah that’s something idiots came up with to make themselves feel better about their low level of ability. Basically everything you say is just your opinion which you state as truth.

I’m using data and info and you’re using hunches? Their KP was 15 pts higher than ours. I think if you ran it on KP, Florida would win the next 9. So we should go on your hunch?

 

[KingAG]

We did - and we lost. And they are titanically better than last years team. Better at each position on floor. We didn’t beat anything better than an 8 seed last year. There is no evidence we’d beat them, as they beat a great field and had a dominant year.

I’m using data and info and you’re using hunches? Their KP was 15 pts higher than ours. I think if you ran it on KP, Florida would win the next 9. So we should go on your hunch?

Appealing to KP’s authority now. Lmfao. What RuffRuff thinks is sufficient. No one cares who Ken Pomeroy’s numbers thinks is capable of winning.