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Race for 1 Seed (2/5)

Nameless said:
I laughed at halftime of the Vandy-UF game when Dari Nowkah reported this is what Lunardi was saying. As if we're supposed to give a crap what Lunardi thinks. He's a mouthpiece for ESPN that has a clear bias towards the SEC due to their massive deal with them, and Lunardi consistently ranks towards the bottom of bracketologists year in, year out.

Florida went up against a team that actually played defense today and looked like dog crap. They picked up their 7th loss, losing by almost 20. If we beat St Johns we should have the advantage over them.

As bad as losses to Marquette and Creighton are, we've at least been competitive in every game we've played this season. If we win tonight we have 3 less losses and a H2H win to boot. We would be much more deserving of a 1 seed
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He's such a weird little goblin, peaks his toupee wearing head out every year at this time just to annoy everyone.
 
ucp990411 said:
Everyone loves their front court but they are not very athletic. It was why we almost beat them last year. Our offense can feast on that type of front court
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Hence why I’m not worried about them despite blazing through the SEC. I also think that UConn has the right frontcourt to go toe to toe with Florida due to Karaban pulling Condon away from the post. That hasn’t changed since we beat them.
 
This is what Lunardi actually said, and it sounded like he was actually trying to talk the committee into it

Florida won a far superior league over the stretch of the season, while UConn came in 2nd in a far weaker league.

He said that overrides the head to head. He then said the committee is smart enough to ignore rash moves based on one game like their loss today.

Remember, there is always some factor never talked about that the committee uses to bat down a deserving team in favor of one they want to advance. It seems like Lunardi was trying to provide it.
 
From CBS:

With Florida falling 91-74 to Vanderbilt in the SEC Tournament semifinals, the Gators are off the No. 1 seed line for now. Who lands as the final No. 1 seed in CBS Sports Bracketology will ultimately be determined by the outcomes of the Big 12 and Big East Tournament title games.

— If Houston beats Arizona in the Big 12 Tournament title game, it will be the fourth No. 1 seed in our final projection, regardless of what UConn does.
— If UConn wins and Houston loses, UConn will be the fourth No. 1 seed.
— If both UConn and Houston lose, Florida will likely regain the fourth No. 1 seed in our final CBS Sports Bracketology projection
 
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FearThePups said:
Lunardi needs to quantify his opinion on Fla getting a number 1 seed ahead of the UConn-Johnie’s game. He claims Florida’s body of work is superior to ours. So if that is to be believed, how is that #22 Vandy crushes Fla and if we beat #13 St. John’s, we don’t get a 1 seed
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Makes no sense / he’s full of it. Hasn’t he been wrong quite a bit?
 
Dent just went to the locker room. UCLA isn’t go to win without him and Purdue could secure a 2 seed with a win here. If MSU is also a 2, and Houston gets the 2 in the South then we have to go Midwest…

The only way out of this is winning tonight and praying Houston loses giving us the 1 in the South and UF the 2 and sending Houston to the Midwest.
 
ucp990411 said:
So when they awarded these sites a couple of years ago they did it knowing Houston would be a 1 or 2 seed? Some people put too much thought into conspiracy theories
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Doubt it. I get that they try for less travel so yes, if Houston makes #1 seed by beating AZ (guessing they will but who really knows) they get a home #1 seed. The issue is if they are a 2 seed and the 1 seed has to travel 1000s of miles and they travel 3 miles it's truly unprecedented; you cannot find a better home court than 3 miles from a 2 seed in any year of this tourney that made the 1 seed there such a prohibitive underdog.
 
BFieldHusky said:
From CBS:

With Florida falling 91-74 to Vanderbilt in the SEC Tournament semifinals, the Gators are off the No. 1 seed line for now. Who lands as the final No. 1 seed in CBS Sports Bracketology will ultimately be determined by the outcomes of the Big 12 and Big East Tournament title games.

— If Houston beats Arizona in the Big 12 Tournament title game, it will be the fourth No. 1 seed in our final projection, regardless of what UConn does.
— If UConn wins and Houston loses, UConn will be the fourth No. 1 seed.
— If both UConn and Houston lose, Florida will likely regain the fourth No. 1 seed in our final CBS Sports Bracketology projection
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Jerry Palm for the win.

This seems reasonable and likely.
 
bendm said:
Dent just went to the locker room. UCLA isn’t go to win without him and Purdue could secure a 2 seed with a win here. If MSU is also a 2, and Houston gets the South then we have to go Midwest.

The only way out of this is winning tonight and praying Houston loses giving us the 1 in the South.
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Unless the committee has Iowa St over Michigan St. Just quickly comparing resumes:

Iowa St: NET 7, KenPom 6, BPI 6, Torvik 7, WAB 7.3
Michigan St: NET 11, KenPom 10, BPI 13, Torvik 13, WAB 7.4

Really not even close IMO.
 
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superjohn said:
A 7 loss team as a 1 is ridiculous. They haven't beaten any great teams.
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True, but the P-2 will continue to receive special treatment from pretty much everyone who is involved with decision making
 
BFieldHusky said:
Palm left CBS last spring. New guy. David Cobb.
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Lol. I was wondering why this Cobb guys name was on the updates. I thought he was an underling for Palm or something.

So never mind. Palm can go suck it.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Unless the committee has Iowa St over Michigan St. Just quickly comparing resumes:

Iowa St: NET 7, KenPom 6, BPI 6, Torvik 7, WAB 7.3
Michigan St: NET 11, KenPom 10, BPI 13, Torvik 13, WAB 7.4

Really not even close IMO.
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I agree but bracket matrix was updated this morning and has MSU as the 3rd 2, ISU as the 4th 2, and Purdue as the 2nd 3

Edit but ISU and Purdue are separated by .73 which is a lot. Hopefully a win against ucla isn’t enough for Purdue to jump ISU
 
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No matter what happens tonight Florida is undeserving of a 1 seed, they had to win out to get the seed right that was the deal you can't have it both ways. Not to mention they got obliterated. We have to win tonight to get the 1 seed after our loss to Marquette. If we lose think Houston should get the 1 seed.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
True, but the P-2 will continue to receive special treatment from pretty much everyone who is involved with decision making
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Def under the opinion that their body of work is not a 1 w/o winning the SECT. They've beaten a bunch of 20th ranked type of teams all year.

Dent out. Not good.
 
RuffRuff said:
This game explosing Florida's weakness - guard play. Vandy guards picking the bigs, scoring off it, shooting lights out. Not sure it will last, but a very healthy 13 pt lead at the half. 20-4 advantage off turnovers.
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LMAO, I been telling you this for weeks! That backcourt was going to cost them.
 
BlueHen said:
Florida is 6-4 against AP top 25.
UConn wins tonight and they will be 7-2.

UConn will be 30-4, Florida is 26-7.

UConn also has a head-to-head win over Florida, and a will have a Tournament Championship.

I'm not seeing Lunardi's argument for Florida over UConn.
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Its SeC Bias..for sure
 
bendm said:
I agree but bracket matrix was updated this morning and has MSU as the 3rd 2, ISU as the 4th 2, and Purdue as the 2nd 3

Edit but ISU and Purdue are separated by .73 which is a lot. Hopefully a win against ucla isn’t enough for Purdue to jump ISU
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Hoping that a win against a banged up UCLA team doesn't move them off the 3 line. Obviously beating Michigan tomorrow could move them.

I hate to continue to bring this up, but this is where OOC should matter. Iowa State beat Purdue on the road. When things get this close, that should matter. Like us with Florida.
 
I actually don’t really care at this point who is in our bracket. I thought Michigan was a juggernaut but the past month they haven’t been all that impressive. Lost to Duke and barely squeezing by some of these other meh Big 10 teams. They have the #1 rated defense in the country because the Big 10 plays a slow, boring style of basketball with not a lot of points scored (except for Illinois). Give me Arizona, Duke, Michigan, Florida I don’t really care. None of these teams are world beaters and we have the talent and coaching to beat any of them. Our offensive #’s were also much stronger early in the season when we had the freedom of movement to run our sets and occasionally got the opportunity to shoot foul shots. The one situation I’d prefer to avoid is playing Houston in Houston, but every other scenario doesn’t scare me. I think UConn has had enough of those types of games that it should be someone else’s turn. We’ve played UNC in North Carolina, Texas in Texas, Maryland in Washington DC, Michigan St. in Detroit just to name a few. I’m sure I’m forgetting some.
 
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Every year some team flips their projected spot among the bracketologists and fans in the final days, and then the committee goes "lol, the bracket was done 3 days ago, but here's 1 stat that agrees with our lazy version so we can sleep at night"
 
I have no idea who to root for in this Houston v Zona game. If we can get #1 in the South with a win tonight then we need to root for Zona. But if we would still be behind UF then we need to root for Houston to ensure we aren’t #5 on the s curve and can be #2 in the East. Two totally different paths.

Edit- go Houston. Even if we win it’s not gonna be convincing
Edit- these games are not going well
 
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Florida keeps the 1 but Houston should pass us on the s-curve so we can be 2 in the east as long as Purdue doesn’t beat Michigan and replace ISU as a 2 seed.

Not that it matters if we play like that again or Demary is limited but maybe we get an easy path like in ‘23 with a banged up Duke.
 
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