r/CollegeBasketball user claims to have insider info on Cooper Flagg -> UConn*

[AntG168]

NC State is historically like St. John's. Bench tier. Only they have titles.

If you think Louisville and Syracuse are irrelevant you are far too short-sighted and way too online.

Syracuse and Louisville are the definition of irrelevant right now. I would argue St John’s and Georgetown are in a better position than both heading into the future. Though I do agree Louisville can be turned around quickly with the right coach

 

[AntG168]

You're all over the place. I'm talking about what conference is better in basketball.

You can assign all the Big East championships won by schools who now play in the ACC and pretend that's ACC success if you like and talk about TV ratings if you like. You can even talk about Dean Smith, K, Roy, and Boeheim if you like. The Big East is better than the ACC in basketball now.

Idk how this is debatable

 

[aburks41]

Does anyone have a rivals VIP access to see if the Duke board caught wind of any of this yet

 

[tzznandrew]

You're all over the place. I'm talking about what conference is better in basketball.

You can assign all the Big East championships won by schools who now play in the ACC and pretend that's ACC success if you like and talk about TV ratings if you like. You can even talk about Dean Smith, K, Roy, and Boeheim if you like. The Big East is better than the ACC in basketball now.

The conversation was around a wild list by one poster that covered all this. So I'm well within the bounds of the converstion.

One response was that Duke has a better history than UConn. It's indisputable, but you commented that "titles are all that matters." I responded to you on that.

As for Big East vs. ACC—a different topic that I responded to separately with a different quote-tweet: right now the Big East is better. Historically the ACC is better than the Big East. In the 1980s, the ACC and Big East each had two titles (and that's all that matters, right?), and in the 2000s the ACC had Duke, Maryland, UNC, UNC, Duke, Duke, UNC, Virginia. The Big East had UConn, Syracuse, UConn, Louisville, Villanova, Villanova, UConn. Two of those programs in the Big East column are elsewhere. The ACC was bad last year because Louisville, Syracuse, Virginia, and UNC were not good. Nor were Florida State or Notre Dame. Those programs have, in the last 20 years, usually been very good. I'd bet they will be again.

Big East is better right now and more cohesive. But the ACC has traditionally been a better league and will be back in the conversation soon.

 

[EastConn'er]

Duke is playing with "house money" this weekend.... literally!
The Flaggs' sold their Newport, ME home over the summer and are living in a rental home near Cooper & Ace's school near Monteverde. Nothing wrong with that. Zion was a strong Clemson lean til Da Dukies got his family a nice plush home in nearby Durham. The NCAA turned a blind eye to that. Now it's ok. We will see. But I expect a nice offer for the Flaggs.... we will see if they like it or not. And our other targets....

 

[superjohn]

Would you take our 2012-2023 or Dukes? Or UKs? Or UNCs?

Absolutely, you intentionally didn't extend it to 2011 which doesn't matter. I would absolutely take ours over them. The only one that has an argument is Nova.

I'll take our last 25 years over all of them too and I'll take our future over all of them as well.

 

[formerlurker]

From Reddit: More Flagg Rumors

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Same rumor this thread is based on. See post #1

 

[superjohn]

The conversation was around a wild list by one poster that covered all this. So I'm well within the bounds of the converstion.

One response was that Duke has a better history than UConn. It's indisputable, but you commented that "titles are all that matters." I responded to you on that.

As for Big East vs. ACC—a different topic that I responded to separately with a different quote-tweet: right now the Big East is better. Historically the ACC is better than the Big East. In the 1980s, the ACC and Big East each had two titles (and that's all that matters, right?), and in the 2000s the ACC had Duke, Maryland, UNC, UNC, Duke, Duke, UNC, Virginia. The Big East had UConn, Syracuse, UConn, Louisville, Villanova, Villanova, UConn. Two of those programs in the Big East column are elsewhere. The ACC was bad last year because Louisville, Syracuse, Virginia, and UNC were not good. Nor were Florida State or Notre Dame. Those programs have, in the last 20 years, usually been very good. I'd bet they will be again.

Big East is better right now and more cohesive. But the ACC has traditionally been a better league and will be back in the conversation soon.

It's all conjecture on your part. You think they will be very good or great again. Cool, the Big East is better now.

 

[tzznandrew]

Idk how this is debatable

Titles since 2000:

ACC
UNC: 2005, 2009, 2017
Duke: 2001, 2010, 2015
Virginia: 2019
Maryland: 2002*

Big East
UConn: 2004, 2011, 2023
Villanova: 2016, 2018
Syracuse: 2003*
Louisville: 2013*

In terms of programs in their league with titles in the current millenium they win, they also have more titles of programs that won titles WHILE in their league over the same amount of time. They also have more final fours, etc. Last year the Big East was better. Probably the year before as well (though in that time period the ACC had 3 Final Four participants to the Big East's 2).

Then for nearly a decade before that, the ACC was stronger.

 

[tzznandrew]

It's all conjecture on your part. You think they will be very good or great again. Cool, the Big East is better now.

Historically, the ACC has been better, particularly if we're saying that titles are all that matter.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

Maybe the Boneyard doesn’t have winks anymore, but we can always…

Follow the follows!

 

[TheHorde]

Maybe the Boneyard doesn’t have winks anymore, but we can always…

Follow the follows!

I’d honestly love to hear an explanation for following Andrew Hurley from a Flagg to UConn skeptic. The timing and nature of that follow is pretty spicy.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

It’s been theorized we offered to play a game at Maine, near where he grew up, for him. His entire brand is centered around Maine.

And UConn fans have been pining for more meaningful local non-con games, so this works both ways.

After decades of poor play, Maine is a program on the rise led by second year head coach Chris Markwood. Could be a top-3 America East team.

 

[tzznandrew]

Absolutely, you intentionally didn't extend it to 2011 which doesn't matter. I would absolutely take ours over them. The only one that has an argument is Nova.

I'll take our last 25 years over all of them too and I'll take our future over all of them as well.

Let me extend it to 2010 or 2009. Or 2006 Duke or UConn or UNC or Florida?

You're saying titles are all that matters. I'm saying they are most important, but it's absurd to say that they're all that matter. Ray Allen's years are relevant for a variety of reasons.

 

[AntG168]

Titles since 2000:

ACC
UNC: 2005, 2009, 2017
Duke: 2001, 2010, 2015
Virginia: 2019
Maryland: 2002*

Big East
UConn: 2004, 2011, 2023
Villanova: 2016, 2018
Syracuse: 2003*
Louisville: 2013*

In terms of programs in their league with titles in the current millenium they win, they also have more titles of programs that won titles WHILE in their league over the same amount of time. They also have more final fours, etc. Last year the Big East was better. Probably the year before as well (though in that time period the ACC had 3 Final Four participants to the Big East's 2).

Then for nearly a decade before that, the ACC was stronger.

I never made up point about the conferences “historically”. Y’all are over thinking it. The BE is and has been the better conference in recent history. Cooper is being recruited to the 2023 ACC and Big East. Not the early 2000 version. Idc about any of this you are posting as it has nothing to do with the fact that the ACC is a mediocre power basketball conference in the year of our Lord. The End

It’s like saying Luka Doncic should sign with the bulls because historically of the past 30 years they’re great. No one cares when they suck NOW. I know, us Knick fans have lived off of the 90’s Knicks for 2 decades and no one else cares lmao

 

[superjohn]

Let me extend it to 2010 or 2009. Or 2006 Duke or UConn or UNC or Florida?

You're saying titles are all that matters. I'm saying they are most important, but it's absurd to say that they're all that matter. Ray Allen's years are relevant for a variety of reasons.

I already said I would take our last 25 years over anyone in the country and it's not even close.

 

[I Bleed Blue]

Maybe the Boneyard doesn’t have winks anymore, but we can always…

Follow the follows!

Cooper just liked Pat's UConn Official Visit photos

 

[nomar]

We’ll agree to disagree on conference. I don’t think scholastics matter to a kid who is spending 9 months in college. I’ve never seen Duke’s campus. Can’t speak on it

It’s very nice. And the weather’s better. And having gone to a game at Cameron, I can attest it’s a crazy environment. But I doubt any of those points are going to have that much weight.

 

[tzznandrew]

I already said I would take our last 25 years over anyone in the country and it's not even close.

I would too. You're picking 25 years because we have the most titles and you are claiming that only titles matter. I'm giving you smaller windows because it's not so obviously convenient. 1991-now: UConn or Duke? 1982 to now, UConn or UNC?

 

[UCfor3]

You have to think Coach K will be there to hard sell him. As far as following Andrew Hurley and Bazz, didn't Timberlake follow almost our entire team?

 

[AntG168]

You have to think Coach K will be there to hard sell him. As far as following Andrew Hurley and Bazz, didn't Timberlake follow almost our entire team?

Timberlake was a turn coat

 

[aburks41]

You have to think Coach K will be there to hard sell him. As far as following Andrew Hurley and Bazz, didn't Timberlake follow almost our entire team?

Coach K can sell him all he wants. He won't be on the sidelines lol

 

[tzznandrew]

I never made up point about the conferences “historically”. Y’all are over thinking it. The BE is and has been the better conference in recent history. Cooper is being recruited to the 2023 ACC and Big East. Not the early 2000 version. Idc about any of this you are posting as it has nothing to do with the fact that the ACC is a mediocre power basketball conference in the year of our Lord. The End

It’s like saying Luka Doncic should sign with the bulls because historically of the past 30 years they’re great. No one cares when they suck NOW. I know, us Knick fans have lived off of the 90’s Knicks for 2 decades and no one else cares lmao

You're assuming the last two years will be a year from now. Flagg isn't coming into the 2023-2024 Big East or ACC. He's going into the 2024-2025 one. It's not like the ACC didn't have two final four teams literally the season before last (and Miami last year) in addition to being the better conference in 2021.

Anyway, I'm enjoying arguing a bit too much because you are far too biased towards UConn. Honestly—I love it. I love UConn too. I'll let this one go.

 

[tuvent08]

I was an absolute forensic psychopath with Timberlake’s social and I convinced myself of things. Won’t allow myself to do that again.

(As I do that again)

 

[QDOG5]