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QB Cole Welliver enters Transfer Portal

Giving this whole topic a lot more thought. In the last five years there has definitely been a paradigm shift that most athletes seem not to be recognizing. To maximize your development, unless you are a four or five star being recruited by a major program, you don't want to shoot as high as possible right out of HS. You want to shoot a level or two below the highest program schools that you are getting interest from. The idea here is to get on the field, get some numbers in the books right away. Hitting the portal without numbers means that you have wasted a year. So as soon as you put up some numbers, assuming they are good, hit the portal for the next season and take a step up, keeping in mind the step up should not be too big because you have to make progress at each step to take the next one. SA overreach is a thing these days. And, at some point, you might realize that the NFL is not in your future and that you are happy where you are.
 
RSTuthill said:
Giving this whole topic a lot more thought. In the last five years there has definitely been a paradigm shift that most athletes seem not to be recognizing. To maximize your development, unless you are a four or five star being recruited by a major program, you don't want to shoot as high as possible right out of HS. You want to shoot a level or two below the highest program schools that you are getting interest from. The idea here is to get on the field, get some numbers in the books right away. Hitting the portal without numbers means that you have wasted a year. So as soon as you put up some numbers, assuming they are good, hit the portal for the next season and take a step up, keeping in mind the step up should not be too big because you have to make progress at each step to take the next one. SA overreach is a thing these days. And, at some point, you might realize that the NFL is not in your future and that you are happy where you are.
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I've actually started to wonder if the right thing for 3 to 4 star freshman qb isn't to sign up for say a mid FCS or decent division 2 but I suppose the danger is that you aren't able to demonstrate your talent and you're just stuck at that level.

At least with the other positions there's more opportunity to play and demonstrate talent so you maybe would have to slum it at uconn instead but QB is a "one man only" position
 
Patman said:
I've actually started to wonder if the right thing for 3 to 4 star freshman qb isn't to sign up for say a mid FCS or decent division 2 but I suppose the danger is that you aren't able to demonstrate your talent and you're just stuck at that level.

At least with the other positions there's more opportunity to play and demonstrate talent so you maybe would have to slum it at uconn instead but QB is a "one man only" position
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“Slum it @ UConn”??
 
Looks like they have 3 QBs on the roster, 2sr 1jr, all transfers. Including a QB from Bethany CT that played at Hamden Hall.
 
gioff2323 said:
Does this mean we can move on now or will this be Nebrich 2.0?
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Oh no....it's Drew Pyne 4.0 (I think that's the number of times he's been eligible to transfer) This will never die!
 
UCFBfan said:
Well this is better than the URI/BGSU stuff you thought he had as only options.
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I’m thoughtless… I only posted what he posted as his options. He went radio silent after the BGSU offer.

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On the face of it, it feels like yet another case of student athlete overreach. But we shall see.
 
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Wish him the best in the game unless he is facing us on the field. One I was hoping would blossom here. Then again we are in the era if I don't play I don't stay. Nobody wants to wait their turn.
C' est lavie ...
Go Huskies...
 
RSTuthill said:
Giving this whole topic a lot more thought. In the last five years there has definitely been a paradigm shift that most athletes seem not to be recognizing. To maximize your development, unless you are a four or five star being recruited by a major program, you don't want to shoot as high as possible right out of HS. You want to shoot a level or two below the highest program schools that you are getting interest from. The idea here is to get on the field, get some numbers in the books right away. Hitting the portal without numbers means that you have wasted a year. So as soon as you put up some numbers, assuming they are good, hit the portal for the next season and take a step up, keeping in mind the step up should not be too big because you have to make progress at each step to take the next one. SA overreach is a thing these days. And, at some point, you might realize that the NFL is not in your future and that you are happy where you are.
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I have asked a couple of parents of D1 baseball players about putting up numbers at a lower level school, proving yourself, and then transferring. They thought it was best to go D1 first, get better coaching and training, and compete for a spot and if it doesn't work out, then transfer. Lower level schools including D1, will recruit you without stats as they were at one time considered a D1 recruit. When you prove yourself at a lower level, then you can transfer back up.
 
UConnJim said:
I have asked a couple of parents of D1 baseball players about putting up numbers at a lower level school, proving yourself, and then transferring. They thought it was best to go D1 first, get better coaching and training, and compete for a spot and if it doesn't work out, then transfer. Lower level schools including D1, will recruit you without stats as they were at one time considered a D1 recruit. When you prove yourself at a lower level, then you can transfer back up.
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Inside information!
 
RSTuthill said:
On the face of it, it feels like yet another case of student athlete overreach. But we shall see.
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What possible basis is there for thinking he overreached? We know UNM didn't offer him more money? We know UNM didn't give him a much better chance of starting than we did? We know he didn't want to be closer to home? Heck, we know that our staff didn't tell him that they didn't see him helping UConn any time soon?

This is the new reality. Half the team will leave every year and we won't know why and we won't know whether they got what they wanted in the move or not.
 
businesslawyer said:
What possible basis is there for thinking he overreached?
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Only because it is problematic that he will get on the field there, whereas at URI he almost certainly would? Another year without numbers and his career ....
 
New Mexico's starting QB last year threw for almost 3000 yards, ran for almost 1200 yards, and accounted for 31 TDs. He transferred to Utah.

The other three QBs on the roster - presumed starter is a transfer from Idaho (FCS), presumed backup has never thrown a college pass, presumed third string played NAIA last year.

Cole has a shot to play - hope he shows out.
 
Purple Stein said:
New Mexico's starting QB last year threw for almost 3000 yards, ran for almost 1200 yards, and accounted for 31 TDs. He transferred to Utah.

The other three QBs on the roster - presumed starter is a transfer from Idaho (FCS), presumed backup has never thrown a college pass, presumed third string played NAIA last year.

Cole has a shot to play - hope he shows out.
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New coach who is from Idaho.
 
obsession over QBs is crazy. Makes no sense to recruit a player as freshman at that position they will never play as a freshman.

If the kid doesn’t play early, he transfers. If he plays early in career well, he transfers.

UConn never gets the best of that player.

I am going to blow all your minds…take a look at every high school QB recruit since Dan Orlovsky that has committed to UConn. Not one has stayed 4/5 years and graduated.

I think famed Johnny McEntee is the only qb who actually came here as a frosh as a qb and then graduated here, and he was a walk-on. McCummings went from QB, to TE, to what looked like he was trying to play RG
 
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