Purvis has guts

[James]

This is an excellent question. So much b'tchn and moanin' about Facey just 5 games ago.

"Ollie doesn't know what he's doing...Facey should never be on the court with Brimah/Enoch!!!"

People need to complain, it seems.

facey only in recent games has shown an evolved skill set, that happens in basketball. sometimes, opportunity is fleeting. So its fair to change your view point on him, though in rp's case, he hasn't shown that sort of growth, there have been no glimpses. I think its clear adams facey and AB are the best and most important players for KO and the metrics back that.

 

[upstater]

facey only in recent games has shown an evolved skill set, that happens in basketball. sometimes, opportunity is fleeting. So its fair to change your view point on him, though in rp's case, he hasn't shown that sort of growth, there have been no glimpses. I think its clear adams facey and AB are the best and most important players for KO and the metrics back that.

I'm sure Ollie knows better. So when we're blasting him for playing Facey, we don't know what he knows.

 

[7774]

Ollie needs to start recruiting guys who have at least one Division 1 skill. Purvis and Vital both seem to lack that one skill.
Brimah can block shots. Adams can penetrate and finish at the rim. This is important so that when players of the caliber like Larrier go
down he knows he can count on a guy to do one thing well.

You cannot seriously think Vital has no division 1 skills. We're only 10 games into his career and he's fairly good at everything except shooting.

 

[pnow15]

You cannot seriously think Vital has no division 1 skills. We're only 10 games into his career and he's fairly good at everything except shooting.

Did you see the little freshman point guard for Auburn repeatedly drive in the lane and shoot layups over our bigs? If Vital is capable of that, he has been hiding it well. Vital also misses the entire rim on half of his threes.

 

[JSM1970]

Vital might be a capable backup for 8-10 mins and never in when game is tight or late

He is forced to with injuries, we want have to see him next year playing these type of minutes

We're fortunate that shooting and scoring isn't important in basketball

You cannot seriously think Vital has no division 1 skills. We're only 10 games into his career and he's fairly good at everything except shooting.

 

[David 76]

Totally missed my point. I asked how many of the by's great minds said Kelis Fisher should never play the again and are now anointing him and trashing RP?
Not who has played better the last 3 to 5 games. Rodney will have better days, then they could all trash Kenyan again.
It is what some people do.

Its a very small sample size but if you disagree that Facey has been one of the top 2 players the past 5 games, you are clueless. Rodney is a great kid put into an unfair spot so its easy to be be biased towards him but I would prefer people to be rational.

tsl

 

[7774]

Vital might be a capable backup for 8-10 mins and never in win game is tight or late

He is forced to with injuries, we want have to see him next year playing these type of minutes

We're fortunate that shooting and scoring isn't important in basketball

He's much better than that, but I get that it's hard for your brain to process anything beyond whether or not shots go in the basket.

 

[JSM1970]

He's not good, can't argue with people who think VJ is a good shooter or Brimah is a good player

Fortunately we won't have to watch him if HD comes or next year

He's much better than that, but I get that it's hard for your brain to process anything beyond whether or not shots go in the basket.

 

[7774]

Did you see the little freshman point guard for Auburn repeatedly drive in the lane and shoot layups over our bigs? If Vital is capable of that, he has been hiding it well. Vital also misses the entire rim on half of his threes.

Yeah I mentioned he's shooting poorly.

 

[pnow15]

Yeah I mentioned he's shooting poorly.

It's the ability to penetrate and break down the defense that goes along with the layups that counts mostly.

 

[7774]

He's not good, can't argue with people who think VJ is a good shooter or Brimah is a good player

Fortunately we won't have to watch him if HD comes or next year

 

[Waquoit]

You cannot seriously think Vital has no division 1 skills. We're only 10 games into his career and he's fairly good at everything except shooting.

He needs a Division 1 attitude. He has just had a ton of minutes dropped in his lap and he plays like it's his birthright. No excuse for a turd like yesterday. His shots may not be falling but he can still hustle. He reminds me of Marcus Cox.

 

[JSM1970]

People will say he just has to work in his shot, like T Sam whose shot still sucks after 4 years of working in it

He will play limited minutes next year so no worries, won't have to be a focal point of the offense

He needs a Division 1 attitude. He has just had a ton of minutes dropped in his lap and he plays like it's his birthright. No excuse for a turd like yesterday. His shots may not be falling but he can still hustle. He reminds me of Marcus Cox.

 

[7774]

He needs a Division 1 attitude. He has just had a ton of minutes dropped in his lap and he plays like it's his birthright. No excuse for a turd like yesterday. His shots may not be falling but he can still hustle. He reminds me of Marcus Cox.

Vital doesn't play hard and hustle?

I have no clue what you're talking about with the D1 attitude and birthright stuff.

 

[JSM1970]

I think he plays hard, he just has zero basketball skills

There's a reason he was rated 166 by 247

Vital doesn't play hard and hustle?

I have no clue what you're talking about with the D1 attitude and birthright stuff.

 

[7774]

I think he plays hard, he just has zero basketball skills

There's a reason he was rated 166 by 247

FYI you always quote the composite number and call it the 247 number.

 

[champs99and04]

He needs a Division 1 attitude. He has just had a ton of minutes dropped in his lap and he plays like it's his birthright. No excuse for a turd like yesterday. His shots may not be falling but he can still hustle. He reminds me of Marcus Cox.

The temperature of this take.

 

[gtcam]

facey only in recent games has shown an evolved skill set, that happens in basketball. sometimes, opportunity is fleeting. So its fair to change your view point on him, though in rp's case, he hasn't shown that sort of growth, there have been no glimpses. I think its clear adams facey and AB are the best and most important players for KO and the metrics back that.

yep - no glimpse in the Cuse game
UConn could have won without RP
And would have beaten Cinci in the AAC tourney without him or hang close to Kansas last year without him
My, my, we paint pictures with the broadest of brushes
RP is not the best player on this team but I will bet that he will show value as the season grows. I expected more from RP, no doubt.
I am not sure we can use the term growth with RP or Kelis Fisher - Kelis Fisher may have had it in him all along but didn't have the opportunity he has now - playing without a fear of the quick hook. After all he was Mr BBall in NY

 

[David 76]

New Rule:
Posters who trash a player (like Facet should n ed ever play again) cannot praise that player on BY until they have admitted they were wrong in a post.

 

[Mr. French]

It's unreal the level with which people take their opinions on players...

I don't even want to glorify these terrible takes by mentioning them by name, but there are a lot in this thread...

 

[Chief00]

That scholarship was given in August when it was clear no other players would be joining the roster.

Does Calhoun know you lie so much? I bet he'd be disappointed.

You fail to see the big picture - August never should have happened - if you prioritize using different talent levels with Plan A, Plan B, Plan C etc - you get a guy even if it's a guy who otherwise be going to University of New Haven or Southern or coming from a Juco. A guy who is at least quick and can dribble and pass or a dude who can shoot.
Because you apparently don't have the ability to understand this simple concept doesn't mean I am lying to Coach - or any fan reading my post.
There may be an over concern with APR and that scares us away from some academic borderline guys?

 

[Stainmaster]

You fail to see the big picture - August never should have happened - if you prioritize using different talent levels with Plan A, Plan B, Plan C etc - you get a guy even if it's a guy who otherwise be going to University of New Haven or Southern or coming from a Juco. A guy who is at least quick and can dribble and pass or a dude who can shoot.
Because you apparently don't have the ability to understand this simple concept doesn't mean I am lying to Coach - or any fan reading my post.
There may be an over concern with APR and that scares us away from some academic borderline guys?

Who cares about "never should've"? That's the reality of what happened. KO made plenty of effort to bring guys in during the Spring period and it didn't work out. Calhoun never missed on recruits?

Oh great, more APR stuff. It's almost as if you actively want us to get banned from the tourney again so you can call for the AD to hire George Blaney in KO's place.

 

[Chief00]

There's so much to "feeding the bigs" more than just a pass. Number one you have to have the angle, 2 you have to know how to feed the post, 3 the big needs to present himself as more than a stick figure and 4 you need to run a ply which helps the big present himself. I didn't see a lot of any of those and I know the guys we had left have little ability to pass the ball well. Honestly Vital is not bad, Rodney's not very good throwing it in there and we weren't left with much other than disarray after Jalen got clocked. I mean from my viewpoint which was the recliner, this team gutted it's way to OT and I love that. I was also upset they didn't get it to Facey but was also upset we didn't see Steve much because he was a difference on the offensive end ion the first half.

Have to agree for the most part due to what was left on the court Rodney did his best in the situation, played his butt off and that's all we can ask other than make a couple shots. He didn't, next!

I agree feeding the post from the guard position includes the complexities you mentioned. Getting it to Facey at the foul line then going high low to Steve on the other hand is something we should have at least tried. We did have a length advantage at certain positions.

 

[Chief00]

Who cares about "never should've"? That's the reality of what happened. KO made plenty of effort to bring guys in during the Spring period and it didn't work out. Calhoun never missed on recruits?

Oh great, more APR stuff. It's almost as if you actively want us to get banned from the tourney again so you can call for the AD to hire George Blaney in KO's place.

Of course Calhoun missed on recruits but he kept going down the list until he got someone. God bless KO for targeting top guys - I am 100% behind that - but the next plans down need to be actively worked concurrently.

When open ships happen two years in a row - yes you are doing something wrong.

As for George Blaney - do we miss him? Absolutely. He deserves a nice retirement - but yeah he knew a ton about basketball and basketball strategy. Anyone who ever talked basketball with him that knew anything would recognize that.

You seem almost paralyzed by APR - in fear of impacting it in any way.
Now Coach may have said in private that we are doing this to keep our APR up since we select a brain walk-on who is 99% likely to graduate. I won't go there of course - let's pretend the media line - great kid, hard worker for 3 years being rewarded. Either way wrong approach - with a better support system in place post Hathaway we should be willing to take academic risks on not only plan A guys but a Plan C guy if we strike out on plans A and B.

 

[David 76]

Guys like Samuel and Lubin? Do you realize we would have nothing to offer Hami now if we used all our scholarships?

 

[JSM1970]

We'd politely tell guys like Lubin, T Sam or Vital to find a new home....fast.

Guys like Samuel and Lubin? Do you realize we would have nothing to offer Hami now if we used all our scholarships?

 

[upstater]

We'd politely tell guys like Lubin, T Sam or Vital to find a new home....fast.

People used to say the same stuff about players who became integral to winning at UConn. Think the same exact thing wasn't said about Hilton Armstrong?

 

[mauconnfan]

New Rule:
Posters who trash a player (like Facet should n ed ever play again) cannot praise that player on BY until they have admitted they were wrong in a post.

As a man that should come naturally no?

 

[sledog]

If only he had attended a summer camp on bunnies 101.

 

[joober jones]

New Rule:
Posters who trash a player (like Facet should n ed ever play again) cannot praise that player on BY until they have admitted they were wrong in a post.

I was stupid enough to speak ill of Kemba Walker in '09. Anyone guilty of blasting a player this season should be willing to come forward and admit they were wrong (if proven so). Whoever you were wrong about, it couldn't be more embarrassing than my self-inflicted crow feast.