Proposed Bill To Allow Unionization of UCONN "Revenue Sport" Athletes

[1999.2004.2011]

I tend to agree. Both the PAC and B1G are anti-Union.

B1G is anti-union? UConn is anti-union!

 

[DarthGrumpy]

This is a small town politician trying to make a name for himself by forcing UConn to swallow a poison pill.

A small-minded Connecticut state politician trying to make a name for himself by forcing UConn to do something? Never! Now, can someone please give me directions to that 50K football stadium that was supposed to be built in Storrs in the late 90's? What!? It's in East Hartford and only seats 40K! How did that happen?

 

[Kolumbo]

So a student would have to receive 90% of tuition while the P5 wants to provide full cost. UCONN is expected to match the P5. Where's the rub?
Does anyone know what football revenue was last year?
If I read this correctly, football revenue would have to be about...?:
85 players x 400% x $10,000 = $ 3,400,000 - using in-state TUITION
85 players x 400% x $30,000 = $10,200,000 - using out-of-state TUITION

85 players x 400% x $25,000 = $ 8,500,000 - using in-state TOTAL COSTS
85 players x 400% x $45,000 = $15,300,000 - using out-of-state TOTAL COSTS

 

[CL82]

B1G is anti-union? UConn is anti-union!

... unless they're not, then neither are we!

 

[CL82]

A small-minded Connecticut state politician trying to make a name for himself by forcing UConn to do something? Never! Now, can someone please give me directions to that 50K football stadium that was supposed to be built in Storrs in the late 90's? What!? It's in East Hartford and only seats 40K! How did that happen?

Personally, I think the adminstration was to blame. IRC they asked for the state to pay for the Rent, Shenkman and Burton in one fell swoop. Had it just been the stadium, it might have passed, even though, as we know from reading the football board, that trying to fit 50,000 people in Storrs would result in an universe ending paradox.

 

[Kolumbo]

B1G likes the Union but has already gone south of the M-D line with Maryland.

 

[SAMCRO]

How do all the other pro leagues with player's unions figure out a depth chart?

it was a "tongue-in-cheek" comment...but I could argue that my NFL team has yet to figure out how to put together a proper depth chart or draft the right talent (also tongue-in-cheek)

 

[Durks07]

Personally, I think the adminstration was to blame. IRC they asked for the state to pay for the Rent, Shenkman and Burton in one fell swoop. Had it just been the stadium, it might have passed, even though, as we know from reading the football board, that trying to fit 50,000 people in Storrs would result in an universe ending paradox.

I could have sworn that Eli Manning having more Super Bowl rings than his brother was a universe-ending paradox, but alas, here we are to wonder how the duck* that happened.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

I just sent a message to my rep to ask her to vote against this bill. I explained why it is bad for us.

 

[itgoeslike]

So a student would have to receive 90% of tuition while the P5 wants to provide full cost. UCONN is expected to match the P5. Where's the rub?
Does anyone know what football revenue was last year?
If I read this correctly, football revenue would have to be about...?:
85 players x 400% x $10,000 = $ 3,400,000 - using in-state TUITION
85 players x 400% x $30,000 = $10,200,000 - using out-of-state TUITION

85 players x 400% x $25,000 = $ 8,500,000 - using in-state TOTAL COSTS
85 players x 400% x $45,000 = $15,300,000 - using out-of-state TOTAL COSTS

Football revenue was $10,631,609 for the period July 1, 2013 - June 30, 2014 according to Equity in Athletics data. I don't believe that includes sponsorships, ad revenue, etc. Revenue for mens basketball over the same period was $7,542,651 per the same data.

 

[CallMeBruce]

So a student would have to receive 90% of tuition while the P5 wants to provide full cost. UCONN is expected to match the P5. Where's the rub?
Does anyone know what football revenue was last year?
If I read this correctly, football revenue would have to be about...?:
85 players x 400% x $10,000 = $ 3,400,000 - using in-state TUITION
85 players x 400% x $30,000 = $10,200,000 - using out-of-state TUITION

85 players x 400% x $25,000 = $ 8,500,000 - using in-state TOTAL COSTS
85 players x 400% x $45,000 = $15,300,000 - using out-of-state TOTAL COSTS

No, the point is that the right to form a union would only apply to students who do receive scholarships of at least 90% of tuition.

 

[pnow15]

Just what we needed in Ct: a bunch of 6'10'' guys leaning on shovels staring down the bottom of a manhole.

 

[CTBballfan243]

If UCONN student athelete's form a union will UCONN need to have extra breaks for the players in each quarter of the game? Will the running backs restrict how many yards they can rush for in anyone game? Who knows, with a union, maybe UCONN will be able to play 2 quarterbacks on the field at one time.

 

[Fishy]

When Ryan Boatright drives into the lane, the state will require two state troopers to sit in their cars courtside.

 

[whaler11]

When Ryan Boatright drives into the lane, the state will require two state troopers to sit in their cars courtside.

They already gave an escort to Herbst so that will be their most valuable contribution of the day.

 

[whaler11]

http://adimeback.com/proposed-bill-would-allow-for-unionization-of-uconn-athletes/

"The bill, submitted by State Representative Matt Lesser (D-Middletown), applies only to public universities in the state, including UConn. The text of the law can be found here, but the key passage states that the student would have to receive a scholarship for no less than 90% of the cost of tuition, that the scholarship is “materially related to the student’s participation in athletics,” and that the revenues for the athletic program in which the student participates, when divided by the number of students expected to participate in that athletic program, be more than four-hundred percent of the cost of the scholarship. In other words, this only applies to athletes participating in “revenue sports,” which means football and men’s basketball at most schools, though a cursory look at the revenue for UConn’s women’s basketball team indicates that they would also qualify."

I clicked the link just to believe your quote. 'Most schools'? There is not a single school the law could apply to other than UConn.

If you want to understand how bad off the UConn athletic department is... the football program probably wouldn't meet the requirement.

 

[whaler11]

What would be the public school program with the highest revenue outside of UConn?

Central's basketball program? They are only cost x 4 -150k away from qualifing. Too bad for Kyle Vinales, the union could have stepped in on his domestic dispute.

 

[whaler11]

Good lord re-reading the quote.

Is the test revenues/participants * 4 > than the cost of one scholarship and not all of them?

So 200k in revenue between 13 basketball players *4 = 61k > CCSU basketball scholarship would pass the test.

The most revenue the UConn football team could generate before failing this test is less than 2 millon dollars?

 

[itgoeslike]

For football, $10,631,609 in revenue divided by 93 participants (could be off by a couple) = $114,318 which divided by 4 = $28,580 establishes the threshold. Since the proposed bill appears to be student specific, in-state students ($10K tuition) can unionize and an out of state students ($30K tuition) would be excluded. Growing football revenue to $11.2M+ (back to past levels) would enable out of state students to be included. Additionally, in-state students would be excluded under the same metrics if revenue fell below $3.72M. Of course, these numbers would be impacted due to a rise in tuition costs. All basketball participants, including out of state, would easily meet the criteria.

 

[uconnbill]

This is a small town politician trying to make a name for himself by forcing UConn to swallow a poison pill.

It would flat be the end of us.

No P5 conference would ever consider a singularly-unionized school and endure the slings and arrows of union-busting rhetoric every time they time they sent a program into Connecticut. Our out of conference opportunities would dry up overnight and we'd be a pariah.

Other than that, I think it's a good idea.

He is a dropout of Wesleyan University and thinks he knows what's best for everyone. He has never held a job outside of politics. He just hasn't a clue and is trying to build up union membership in the state and doesn't care what happens with the students or UCONN. This is all about him, make no mistake.

 

[B1GOSU]

If UConn does unionize its players, you can kiss any chance of joining a P5 Conference goodbye.

 

[CL82]

If UConn does unionize its players, you can kiss any chance of joining a P5 Conference goodbye.

It won't happen. Does that mean we're in?

 

[CONN Ed]

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

Churchill

 

[CONN Ed]

B1G likes the Union but has already gone south of the M-D line with Maryland.

I was actually looking at another line, the southern border of Virginia as a line of demarcation. Take that line and head west. UVa. Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas to B1G. Nothing too far south, nice clean lines, puts B1G at 18 teams. SEC gets everything south of the line, no (little) overlap, and never gonna happen. Looks cool on a map though...

 

[Fairfield 1st]

It will never get off the ground... at least that's what my friends in the legislature have said