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Well it's starting this weekend. After a busy summer (Euros, Copa America, Olympics) they right back at it.

I'll throw up my predictions, even though the transfer market is open til Sept.

1. Arsenal (maybe this year, gotta be one of these years)
2. Man City (Pep is still there)
3. Aston Villa (maybe Unai knows what he's doing?)
4. Liverpool (Still got the players)

Relegation

Ipswich Town
Southampton
Nottingham Forest
 
This weekend.

ManU and Fulham start off on Friday at 3:00. (USA Network I think)

Saturday
Ipswich Town opens at home vs Liverpool, probably a rude awakening, but who knows. 1st EPL game at home? 7:30 (USA Network)

West Ham vs Aston Villa might be a decent game. 12:30 (USA Network)

Sunday

Chelsea vs Man City 11:30 (USA Network)
 
OK here we go. Ready for Spurs to lose to relegation battling teams in February and March to sink their Champions League hopes. But I'll play
1. Man City
2. Liverpool
3. Spurs
4. Arsenal
5. Chelsea
6. Aston Villa
 
Arsenal are the only EPL team I like. They came close last season, and I hope they can pull it off this year.
 
My buddy went to Ipswich Town games when he was in the Air Force.
 
I’m fine with City winning again this year; I think it’s KDBs last year in the Prem.

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Surprised at the low level of chatter so far. Shaping up to be very competitive for the top 4. Spurs brutal loss today. Could have rocketed up to 3rd, instead they sit 10th going into the break
 
Liverpool croaked both Real and City in a 5 day stretch. Unreal. They look like the class of world football right now.
 
Liverpool croaked both Real and City in a 5 day stretch. Unreal. They look like the class of world football right now.
They are going to be tough to catch...if anyone actually tries.
 
They are going to be tough to catch...if anyone actually tries.
I know it's so early, but in a way, this reminds me of Hurley taking over for JC without KO in between.
 
Liverpool croaked both Real and City in a 5 day stretch. Unreal. They look like the class of world football right now.
City has not been good.
A a Liverpool guy, I'm enjoying the season more than I expected. Slot has done a great job taking over for Klopp.
 
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Peacock had a Heidi game today. I invest 90 minutes in the Liverpool match and it's 0-0 going into added time. All of a sudden I get the circle of death. When it starts up again, it's 2-0 Liverpool. I thought it was crappy Cox but it was system-wide.
 
Peacock had a Heidi game today. I invest 90 minutes in the Liverpool match and it's 0-0 going into added time. All of a sudden I get the circle of death. When it starts up again, it's 2-0 Liverpool. I thought it was crappy Cox but it was system-wide.
Unfortunately I got to see whole thing of Arsenal throwing away 2 points.
 
Damn, I mean it may not amount to anything, but that felt really good.
 
Damn, I mean it may not amount to anything, but that felt really good.
I'm a Liverpool guy, and watching Arsenal destroy Man City felt really good, even though standings wise I should have been rooting for City.
 
I wanted the Gunner's to lose, they're the main threat. I can easily hate them as much as City.
 
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I'm a Liverpool guy, and watching Arsenal destroy Man City felt really good, even though standings wise I should have been rooting for City.
Well congrats, you've won the league. (not that you weren't probably gonna win it anyway)

We now have Saka, Martinelli, Havertz, and Jesus out. (along with White and Tomiyasu on defense) Top 4 forwards leaving us with Trossard, ummmm, 50 year old Sterling and 17 year old Nwaneri.

We'll be lucky if we get top 4.
 
I would say Liverpool has benefitted from stoppage time more often than it has negatively impacted them, but I still have always hated it. Yesterday it was a negative impact with Everton scoring essentially on the final touch of the ball. Why can't they just stop the clock so 45 minutes is 45 minutes? The game was in the 7th minute of 5 minutes of stoppage. If a team is attacking, they let it continue. Despise it.
 
I would say Liverpool has benefitted from stoppage time more often than it has negatively impacted them, but I still have always hated it. Yesterday it was a negative impact with Everton scoring essentially on the final touch of the ball. Why can't they just stop the clock so 45 minutes is 45 minutes? The game was in the 7th minute of 5 minutes of stoppage. If a team is attacking, they let it continue. Despise it.

So it will be over in about 2 hours. Why doesn't baseball just give each player 3 at bats?
 
If a team is attacking, they let it continue. Despise it.
For me, that’s a feature, not a bug. It’s consistent with the sport. I never thought that soccer in the US would adopt added time. MLS stopped right on 90 minutes when the league began.
 
I would say Liverpool has benefitted from stoppage time more often than it has negatively impacted them, but I still have always hated it. Yesterday it was a negative impact with Everton scoring essentially on the final touch of the ball. Why can't they just stop the clock so 45 minutes is 45 minutes? The game was in the 7th minute of 5 minutes of stoppage. If a team is attacking, they let it continue. Despise it.
Soccer uses a running clock and players have a particular ability to manipulate when play starts and stops. Not including some way to account for this would make it a farce. Another option would be to stop the clock on every injury, but that would lead to the same result of games lasting longer than 90 minutes.
 
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How hard is it for a ref to have the ability to start and stop a clock at his will? Instead we get this magical number, of which I have no clue if it's accurate or not. It's likely not since all stoppage time is in whole numbers. Then if a team is attacking, the time can get extended. No other sport has the ambiguity. If it's a 90 minute game, prove it with a clock that stops.
And don't even get me started on fake injuries. Every game should be reviewed after the fact and yellow cards given for dives. I saw a guy get hit in the neck and he went down to the ground covering his eye. This crap needs to be out of the game. If there's no consequences, they'll keep diving.
 
Soccer uses a running clock and players have a particular ability to manipulate when play starts and stops. Not including some way to account for this would make it a farce. Another option would be to stop the clock on every injury, but that would lead to the same result of games lasting longer than 90 minutes.
I'm essentially saying get rid of the running clock and have the head ref control it from his wrist. Easy. They'd never do it due to the theater that is stoppage time, but I think this mystery amount of time added is silly.
 
I'm essentially saying get rid of the running clock and have the head ref control it from his wrist. Easy. They'd never do it due to the theater that is stoppage time, but I think this mystery amount of time added is silly.
Like I said, they used to do it your way and it sucked.
 
Like I said, they used to do it your way and it sucked.
Every other league in every other country in the world uses the running clock. It is the accepted format and would make no sense to be the outlier. I think next time I'm watching a match with my buddies I'll propose this and see what the reaction is; should be good for a laugh.
 
Like I said, they used to do it your way and it sucked.
How long ago was that? I've been watching 'Pool for only about 10-12 years. What sucked about it? Just wondering, not looking to argue or anything silly like that.
In theory, the only difference between a running clock and someone stopping and starting the clock would be the discretion a head ref has in actually blowing his whistle if a team is on the attack when stoppage time looks like it should be over.
Again, full transparency, I'm bitching because Everton beat Liverpool with basically no stoppage time left and they'd already gone more than 2 minutes past the original stoppage amount. I had no idea if we were under 90 minutes, over, or right on.

Every other league in every other country in the world uses the running clock. It is the accepted format and would make no sense to be the outlier. I think next time I'm watching a match with my buddies I'll propose this and see what the reaction is; should be good for a laugh.
It won't go well. It's interesting to me that every non soccer sport (that I've seen) actually stops their clock and I wonder how this stoppage time method came to be. TV? Imagine UConn hoops with stoppage time. What does NCAA soccer do? I haven't seen a game in a long time.
 
How hard is it for a ref to have the ability to start and stop a clock at his will? Instead we get this magical number, of which I have no clue if it's accurate or not. It's likely not since all stoppage time is in whole numbers. Then if a team is attacking, the time can get extended. No other sport has the ambiguity. If it's a 90 minute game, prove it with a clock that stops.
And don't even get me started on fake injuries. Every game should be reviewed after the fact and yellow cards given for dives. I saw a guy get hit in the neck and he went down to the ground covering his eye. This crap needs to be out of the game. If there's no consequences, they'll keep diving.

It keeps the game moving. With a stopped clock you get players milking time to rest, receiving coaching instructions, etc.

Why does basketball count hoops that go in after the clock has expired, unlike hockey? Why does FB not end play when the clock hits zero?

For soccer, added time and allowing the attacking team to within reason complete it's possession adds to the drama, which is the point any spectator sport.

Yes, it's confusing to casual fans and isn't applied consistently but it does work fine.

What doesn't work is the nebulous rules for awarding PKs. VAR hasn't helped much but a few rule tweaks have improved things and a few more would be welcomed. IMO

1. Clear and obvious error is a good standard glad they stopped reviewing every close call on the field.

2. Offsides, the rule should be changed so that an attacking player is onside unless his foot is clearly in front of the last defender. Don't care about heads, hips, shoulders, etc. Also don't care if one toe or heel is a couple inches in front.

They should pick one reference and require clear separation to disallow a goal. Ties go to the attacker, so to speak. I'm tired of waiting for poorly drawn lines over arbitrary video frames that purport to be the moment the ball was played. At 30+ frames per second, that's nonsense at that distance and resolution.
 
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