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Please don't tell that certain poster that my biggest 2 gaps are between 5 & 6 and between 8 & 9.Oh, you're gonna get the stink eye from a certain poster for this!![]()
That certain poster will have to acknowledge it is what it is, especially based on last year's results. Also, that certain team is at least 6th in comparison to other lists I believeOh, you're gonna get the stink eye from a certain poster for this!![]()

With the exception of Florida State in my opinion, everything from 6 onwards is a crap shoot. A lot of turnover with the teams listed and new coaches for some. Although I see Syracuse as a dark horse here because of what Legette-Jack was able to bring over from Buffalo and some of the transfers coming in.Please don't tell that certain poster that my biggest 2 gaps are between 5 & 6 and between 8 & 9.
From what I've seen, that acknowledgement will not be forthcoming. As they say, don't hold your breath.That certain poster will have to acknowledge it is what it is, especially based on last year's results.
That's why I moved Syracuse from 12th last year to 9th. Why do you think Florida State is an exception? They lost a lot from their front court as well as their best player (one of the biggest reasons that I picked Louisville #1 -- even though the transfer portal thread was more focused on Aubrey Joens at the time???). The reason that I picked them as high as I did is I think their very young, talented back court (Gordon & Latson) will create a lot of turnovers, but there is a good chance that I'm a year early.That certain poster will have to acknowledge it is what it is, especially based on last year's results. Also, that certain team is at least 6th in comparison to other lists I believe
With the exception of Florida State in my opinion, everything from 6 onwards is a crap shoot. A lot of turnover with the teams listed and new coaches for some. Although I see Syracuse as a dark horse here because of what Legette-Jack was able to bring over from Buffalo and some of the transfers coming in.
Probably . . . I will have to say that I would thoroughly enjoy grabbing a bite and drink talking hoops and everything else with that certain poster the next time I pass through the triad . . . probablyNot quite sure who that aforementioned certain poster is.. (though he is probably a charming, wise, and handsome individual) ... but I'm sure he is more rational and open minded than he is given credit for, probably.
Re FSU, I like the coach and what she was able to do when their former HC was taking care of her mother. I get that there were a fair bit of transfers out, but a couple weren't regular contributors and a few were grad students. They still have Gordon as a sophomore and they brought in Massengil from Kentucky and Turnage who could be a surprise at W.That's why I moved Syracuse from 12th last year to 9th. Why do you think Florida State is an exception? They lost a lot from their front court as well as their best player (one of the biggest reasons that I picked Louisville #1 -- even though the transfer portal thread was more focused on Aubrey Joens at the time???). The reason that I picked them as high as I did is I think their very young, talented back court (Gordon & Latson) will create a lot of turnovers, but there is a good chance that I'm a year early.
Might I remind you, good sir, that you originally picked North Carolina in 9th place. I think you are all the things you described yourself as, probably...except when it comes to the Tar Heels. Then the rational, open minded, etc. etc stuff kinda departs.Not quite sure who that aforementioned certain poster is.. (though he is probably a charming, wise, and handsome individual) ... but I'm sure he is more rational and open minded than he is given credit for, probably.
I am far from an expert, but since I have stayed at Holiday Inn Express, I'll take a stab. They were 4-12 last year and lost their best player in Wells and 2 of the next best 3. While getting Barker is huge, she is a freshman and I don't think that they got that much else incoming from the portal or freshmen (their original top 2 decommitted). I am not 100% on all of the aforementioned, so feel free to fact-check.Re FSU, I like the coach and what she was able to do when their former HC was taking care of her mother. I get that there were a fair bit of transfers out, but a couple weren't regular contributors and a few were grad students. They still have Gordon as a sophomore and they brought in Massengil from Kentucky and Turnage who could be a surprise at W.
On the flip side, we're seeing similar choices by posters when it comes to the SEC, specifically Georgia and Texas A&M. Both teams go through HC changes, transfers in and out and Georgia is considered a top 5 team, while TAMU is in the bottom half. Both coaches got their teams to the sweet 16 last tournament. Both coaches were able to convince some of their players to transfer to their new school. Coach Taylor was able to convince Barker to stick with her.
How does that make sense? I would have guessed they'd both be middle of the pack considering their situations. What have I overlooked that SEC experts can educate me on?
Might I remind you, good sir, that you originally picked North Carolina in 9th place. I think you are all the things you described yourself as, probably...except when it comes to the Tar Heels. Then the rational, open minded, etc. etc stuff kinda departs.
Isn't this where record books get thrown out (or something similar)?Might I remind you, good sir, that you originally picked North Carolina in 9th place. I think you are all the things you described yourself as, probably...except when it comes to the Tar Heels. Then the rational, open minded, etc. etc stuff kinda departs.
I am far from an expert, but since I have stayed at Holiday Inn Express, I'll take a stab. They were 4-12 last year and lost their best player in Wells and 2 of the next best 3. While getting Barker is huge, she is a freshman and I don't think that they got that much else incoming from the portal or freshmen (their original top 2 decommitted). I am not 100% on all of the aforementioned, so feel free to fact-check.
I like Joni Taylor a lot, but don't think she has quite enough talent in a very competitive conference.
Record books get thrown out frequently. Land grant vs. flagship. In state matchups between a P5 and mid major. Baptists vs. Catholics or Methodists or anything else like that. I'm sure there is something more severe to describe this situation than the throwing of record books.Kinda?????Isn't this where record books get thrown out (or something similar)?
We don't want you to ruin your appetite, so we can all understand if you can't bring yourself to do much research into that other school in the Triangle.Well in my defense, it was off the top of my head and there are 3 more months before the season started so things can change. I also mentioned that I could see them moving up to around 6-7. I just have a lot of questions about them, but I got 3 more months to do further research.
1. Plenty of time to amendI probably didn't do enough research when I picked them at 6th. Didn't realize that they lost that much off of their roster.
I can appreciate those challenges, but I believe Georgia is an unknown as well. Who is to say the players that transferred with their coach from UCF will handle the SEC style of play? I struggle with the gap between teams because I see their situations being very similar.I am far from an expert, but since I have stayed at Holiday Inn Express, I'll take a stab. They were 4-12 last year and lost their best player in Wells and 2 of the next best 3. While getting Barker is huge, she is a freshman and I don't think that they got that much else incoming from the portal or freshmen (their original top 2 decommitted). I am not 100% on all of the aforementioned, so feel free to fact-check.
I like Joni Taylor a lot, but don't think she has quite enough talent in a very competitive conference.
Yeah its not just a game or two against a SEC team. It's a full SEC schedule. That makes a difference.I can appreciate those challenges, but I believe Georgia is an unknown as well. Who is to say the players that transferred with their coach from UCF will handle the SEC style of play? I struggle with the gap between teams because I see their situations being very similar.
Legette-Jack is a very good game coach, and Fair and Hyman will drive ACC teams crazy. They both are fast on fast, and handle the ball well.That certain poster will have to acknowledge it is what it is, especially based on last year's results. Also, that certain team is at least 6th in comparison to other lists I believe
With the exception of Florida State in my opinion, everything from 6 onwards is a crap shoot. A lot of turnover with the teams listed and new coaches for some. Although I see Syracuse as a dark horse here because of what Legette-Jack was able to bring over from Buffalo and some of the transfers coming in.
Last night's ACC Draft #1 from off the top of my head
1. State
2. Louisville
3, Duke
4. Notre Dame
5. Virginia Tech
6. Miami
7. Georgia Tech
8. Syracuse
9. North Carolina
10. Wake Forest
11. Virginia
12. Florida State
13. Pittsburgh
14. Boston College
15. Clemson
**** Subject to change
The exodus from Morgantown was significant. Unlike other schools that replaced a good chunk of their exiting talent, I didn't see that from WVU.Big 12
1. Texas
2. Iowa State
3. Baylor
4. Oklahoma
5. Kansas State
6 TCU
7 Kansas
8 Texas Tech
9 West Virginia
10 Oklahoma State.
As long as # 15 doesn’t change, I’m satisfiedSecond draft... After the news out of Raleigh, I need to make a few updates. State without Boyd takes a fall. I realize I was a bit too tough on that school in Chapel Hill... moved them up in the standings. Always unbiased.
1. Louisville
2. Duke
3. Notre Dame
4. State
5 Virginia Tech
6 Miami
7 North Carolina
8 Syracuse
9 Georgia Tech
10 Wake Forest
11 UVA
12 Florida State
13 Pitt
14 Boston College
15 Clemson
Speaking of Clemson. I have a difficult time seeing Amanda Butler keep her job much longer baring some miraculous turn around. Her last three seasons:As long as # 15 doesn’t change, I’m satisfied
| 2019–20 | Clemson | 8–23 | 3–15 | 14th | |
| 2020–21 | Clemson | 12–14 | 5–12 | 11th | WNIT Second Round |
| 2021–22 | Clemson | 10–21 | 3–15 | 13th |
As long as # 15 doesn’t change, I’m satisfied
They’ll keep her just to send a message that they don’t care about wbbSpeaking of Clemson. I have a difficult time seeing Amanda Butler keep her job much longer baring some miraculous turn around. Her last three seasons:
2019–20 Clemson 8–23 3–15 14th 2020–21 Clemson 12–14 5–12 11th WNIT Second Round 2021–22 Clemson 10–21 3–15 13th