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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
DoctorWho85 said:
I'm just hoping both Arizona schools fall through.
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Well, there's only one spot and AZ and AZ State are commonly viewed as a package deal since they share the same board of regents.

Publicly they claim solidarity but privately AZ wants to move on without the other.

If the board seems to keep both tied to the PAC 12, we'll get the 14th spot.

There's a special meeting at 3pm AZ time today to discuss a certain matter, my guess is they will have a final discussion on this. We know what AZ wants, will the board let it happen? Stay tuned.
 
B1GEast said:
Well, there's only one spot and AZ and AZ State are commonly viewed as a package deal since they share the same board of regents.

Publicly they claim solidarity but privately AZ wants to move on without the other.

If the board seems to keep both tied to the PAC 12, we'll get the 14th spot.

There's a special meeting at 3pm AZ time today to discuss a certain matter, my guess is they will have a final discussion on this. We know what AZ wants, will the board let it happen? Stay tuned.
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There are reports that there is one spot. There are reports that there are three spots. We have no idea which reports are true.

The most plausible report I saw said that the contract gives the Big XII four more additions at full payout. It also said that given that ESPN is bleeding $, they asked the Big XII not to use all of them right now.
 
CL82 said:
Or both join, either way works
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I really wish we had a better idea of BY’s end game conference. 16 or 20? We’ve all heard his dream of establishing a Big XII (basketball) stronghold in NYC.

Those rumors of AZ, ASU, and UT don’t support that at all.

Does taking AZ and ASU (and us) damage the PAC enough to start a whole new round of P5 realignment opening up ACC candidates? We would greatly help with NYC but is that enough?

Is his end game 20 or more? ACC falls apart then grab Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, others? That would shore up NYC.
 
HuskyHawk said:
There are reports that there is one spot. There are reports that there are three spots. We have no idea which reports are true.

The most plausible report I saw said that the contract gives the Big XII four more additions at full payout. It also said that given that ESPN is bleeding $, they asked the Big XII not to use all of them right now.
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There are more spots, we all know that 14 is not an optional number scheduling wise, but Yormark has stated that they will stop at 14. Why? I think it's because he really doesn't want AZ State.

He wants AZ only and if he can't break them apart, he'll reach out to UConn and tell the Big 12 presidents that he tried.

Two more spots will open and my guess, if I'm right, that spot will be filled with another team quickly with one remaining spot left and AZ will have another chance to go into the Big 12, but without AZ State
 
B1GEast said:
There are more spots, we all know that 14 is not an optional number scheduling wise, but Yormark has stated that they will stop at 14. Why? I think it's because he really doesn't want AZ State.

He wants AZ only and if he can't break them apart, he'll reach out to UConn and tell the Big 12 presidents that he tried.

Two more spots will open and my guess, if I'm right, that spot will be filled with another team quickly with one remaining spot left and AZ will have another chance to go into the Big 12, but without AZ State
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He has not stated this that I have seen. Show me the statement.
 
HuskyHawk said:
He has not stated this that I have seen. Show me the statement.
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From a July 2023 article

frontofficesports.com

Big 12 Wants To Stay At 14 Teams After Texas, Oklahoma Exit

The Big 12 has added four teams for the 2023 football season but will drop down to 12 in 2024 when Texas and Oklahoma depart.
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I’d like to stay at 14, even with the departures of Texas and Oklahoma, candidly,” Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark said
 
B1GEast said:
From a July 2023 article

frontofficesports.com

Big 12 Wants To Stay At 14 Teams After Texas, Oklahoma Exit

The Big 12 has added four teams for the 2023 football season but will drop down to 12 in 2024 when Texas and Oklahoma depart.
frontofficesports.com frontofficesports.com

I’d like to stay at 14, even with the departures of Texas and Oklahoma, candidly,” Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark said
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That is stale and what he's saying is that he doesn't want to be just at 12 when OU and UT leave. "Stay" at 14 means go up from 12->14 by adding. It's not a limitation on even more additions and what happened with the PAC has changed things.
 
HuskyHawk said:
That is stale and what he's saying is that he doesn't want to be just at 12 when OU and UT leave. "Stay" at 14 means go up from 12->14 by adding. It's not a limitation on even more additions and what happened with the PAC has changed things.
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Am I the only one who remembers the scene from Annie Hall, where someone is arguing with Marshall McLuhan about what Marshall McLuhan's position is on something? Because I think Husky Hawk asked for proof that BY had said something, got it, and just decided that it was o.k. for him to ignore the quote because he knew BY wouldn't say it again today.
 
businesslawyer said:
Am I the only one who remembers the scene from Annie Hall, where someone is arguing with Marshall McLuhan about what Marshall McLuhan's position is on something? Because I think Husky Hawk asked for proof that BY had said something, got it, and just decided that it was o.k. for him to ignore the quote because he knew BY wouldn't say it again today.
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No. Because we are not 100 years old.
 
businesslawyer said:
Am I the only one who remembers the scene from Annie Hall, where someone is arguing with Marshall McLuhan about what Marshall McLuhan's position is on something? Because I think Husky Hawk asked for proof that BY had said something, got it, and just decided that it was o.k. for him to ignore the quote because he knew BY wouldn't say it again today.
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That scene was in a line at a bank or something, no? It was funny.
 
businesslawyer said:
Am I the only one who remembers the scene from Annie Hall, where someone is arguing with Marshall McLuhan about what Marshall McLuhan's position is on something? Because I think Husky Hawk asked for proof that BY had said something, got it, and just decided that it was o.k. for him to ignore the quote because he knew BY wouldn't say it again today.
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No, because @B1GEast t said Yormark said that they would "stop at 14". Yormark did not say that. He said. “I’d like to stay at 14, even with the departures of Texas and Oklahoma, candidly,” Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark said. “We’ll see if that’s a possibility or not.”

Meaning that the Big XII would get back to 14 (not 12) when OU and UT leave. It's completely out of context for the current situation that Yormark didn't envision in June where he can not only get to 14 but go beyond it. We have multiple mixed inside reports that the league wants 14 or wants 16. We know it doesn't want 12, which is what the quote was about.
 
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