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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
UCONNRPh said:
Please shut this down, Can we get one put up as we get new info and rumors ?

Not being a pest but when I come home from work I'd prefer to read info and rumors and not opinions or conversation

I know this will upset those with opinions but I'm sure many others feel the same.
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Top of the thread click ignore.
 
AzHusky said:
We click on the thread because the title is Possible Big 12 invite rumors. Not how did Penn State do in football, and if I read it correctly the OP was talking about Penn State basketball and their losing their coach.
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Understandable, but once a thread reaches say …..90 PAGES!, you can pretty safely assume that it’s not all breaking news
 
Rdkid said:
Lew stated cleatI
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It would have if not for the idiots in charge who slept in when realignment was happening and UConn was left behind when the ACC took Louisville instead
 
The best part of all this B12 discussion is Houston and UCF fans acting all high and mighty like their athletics are somehow above ours. We literally get no respect for how great our overall athletics are because football has been a dumpster fire for the last decade. The list of completely mediocre schools I've seen mentioned that people would want in the B12 instead of ours is pure COMEDY.
 
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UCONNRPh said:
Because I follow my school information is why
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When/if there’s breaking news trust me you will know before you even go on this thread, as I’m sure the thread title would change.
 
mussels said:
Penn State football went 11-2 last year. Their only losses were @ #5 Michigan and to #2 Ohio State at home. They won the Rose Bowl beating #8 Utah.

And this is your example of a school that has trouble recruiting?
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Maybe you didn't understand what I wrote. They have trouble recruiting AA basketball players, and some football players.

This is pretty well known.

I don't know why you find this odd.

11-2 seasons are par for the course for PSU football.
 
mussels said:
Understandable, but once a thread reaches say …..90 PAGES!, you can pretty safely assume that it’s not all breaking news
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But you never know if that next post is going to be breaking news.
 
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UCONNRPh said:
Please shut this down, Can we get one put up as we get new info and rumors ?

Not being a pest but when I come home from work I'd prefer to read info and rumors and not opinions or conversation

I know this will upset those with opinions but I'm sure many others feel the same.
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I’ve been here for 20+ years, you get used to scrolling through the thread. Occasionally someone has information or color that is great…it might be weeks depending on the subject. I actually find it comical and entertaining when the thread pages get to this level…I imagine a poster typing like they had a typewriter…bang bang bang…getting angry. Good luck
 
CL82 said:
Lol, did this make sense in your head?

Man you're in a pissy mood today. First year getting into a name-calling argument with the mods on the Seton Hall board and now you're trying to victory lap PC basketball ticket sale revenue? You do realize that every school has ticket sales right? The schools that are getting $30M, $50M or $70 million for broadcast rights in addition to that ticket revenue would seem to have a fairly significant advantage, no ?
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Every school? How much is Penn State’s men’s basketball ticket revenue? You continue to miss the point. College Basketball Programs who have a significant following, a decent tv contract, and Greta facilities will continue to be able to pay coaches and compete. You have a boat anchor and need to go, we all get that. But stop making up stupid crap about the other schools that you obviously know nothing about.
 
upstater said:
PSU shouldn't even count in this discussion since it has an incredibly bad cultural problem.

5% of the student body is black up from 3%. The avg. for all Pennsylvania universities is 11% just under the state population.

Another eye popping statistic: 60% of the student body at PSU is female.

It's tough to recruit to a place that is 3 1/2 hours from the nearest big city, and the student body doesn't look anything like where a majority of the players come from.

This goes for the football team as well which is more white than most.
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LOL, how much of Georgetown is black? How dare they pay their coach. Ridiculous straw men and excuses.
 
upstater said:
Maybe you didn't understand what I wrote. They have trouble recruiting AA basketball players, and some football players.

This is pretty well known.

I don't know why you find this odd.

11-2 seasons are par for the course for PSU football.
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Guilty as charged I guess.

The premise of the preceding discussion was that Penn State didn’t care about basketball. I took your post to imply that their lack of success on the hardwood wasn’t that they didn’t care, but rather because they had trouble recruiting athletes to a largely white campus in the middle of nowhere.

Ignoring the obvious irony of this position coming from someone that supports a successful basketball team from a largely white campus in the middle of nowhere, I attempted to demonstrate that they could indeed recruit athletes.

Now you seem to concede that they can indeed recruit football athletes (no big deal because after all, kicking but in football is just what they do) but, notwithstanding the similarities to UConn, they can’t attract basketball athletes. (because there is an obvious, and inherent difference between basketball and football athletes?)

Do I have this right?
 
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FriarJ said:
LOL, how much of Georgetown is black? How dare they pay their coach. Ridiculous straw men and excuses.
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You've never been to Georgetown? It's in a city that is half African-American.

As usual, you don't know WTF you're talking about
 
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mussels said:
Guilty as charged I guess.

The premise of the preceding discussion was that Penn State didn’t care about basketball. I took your post to imply that their lack of success on the hardwood wasn’t that they didn’t care, but rather because they had trouble recruiting athletes to a largely white campus in the middle of nowhere.

Ignoring the obvious irony of this position coming from someone that supports a successful basketball team from a largely white campus in the middle of nowhere, I attempted to demonstrate that they could indeed recruit athletes.

Now you seem to concede that they can indeed recruit football athletes (no big deal because after all, kicking but in football is just what they do) but, notwithstanding the similarities to UConn, they can’t attract basketball athletes. (because there is an obvious, and inherent difference between basketball and football athletes?)

Do I have this right?
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I didn't realize UConn had so few black students.

At PSU it's a notorious problem. It's been as low as 2% recently.

Centre Cty is just so far from anywhere. Storrs is not isolated at all by comparison
 
FriarJ said:
Every school? How much is Penn State’s men’s basketball ticket revenue? You continue to miss the point. College Basketball Programs who have a significant following, a decent tv contract, and Greta facilities will continue to be able to pay coaches and compete. You have a boat anchor and need to go, we all get that. But stop making up stupid crap about the other schools that you obviously know nothing about.
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I'm glad you have Greta facilities. I'm sure she appreciates them.

Fwiw, this is what I fortune on PC mens basketball total revenues:

The Providence men’s basketball program paid out $12,448,442 in expenses while making $12,448,442 in total revenue

So, if total revenues are 12.5 million how could ticket sales be 20 million? We know that providence college makes one about 4 1/2 million from Big East distributions. So that would seem to be no more than $8M in ticket sales, right? Probably less because I would think you get revenue from your uniform deal, right? And then there is your various Branding contracts, sales of merchandise etc. anyway how much is Cooley getting now $6M? I guess that worked out for the best, because you guys really couldn't afford him.
 
upstater said:
You've never been to Georgetown? It's in a city that is half African-American.

As usual, you don't know WTF you're talking about
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I've been to Georgetown. It's a school with a small black population in a neighborhood with a really small black population.
 
upstater said:
I didn't realize UConn had so few black students.

At PSU it's a notorious problem. It's been as low as 2% recently.

Centre Cty is just so far from anywhere. Storrs is not isolated at all by comparison
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I wouldn't say UConn has so few black students. It's student population is pretty in line with the racial breakdown of the state and has a significantly higher black student population than several other state schools I can think of who have a significantly higher black state population than CT does.
 
JMick said:
You understand that if anything happens there will surely be a new thread the second it happens, right?

Just use a little self control and don't click on the thread
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"a little self control"

that wasn't nice. I said not a thing that was sarcastic or rude. No a cheap shots.

That is all. I will take your advice and not click this thread again.

No need to get ugly
 
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Well this went off the rails. The demographics of these places aren't the issue. History matters. Ours has helped Hurley get guys he could not get at another local "flagship" New England University, URI.

Shrewsbury knew he'd have a better chance of sustaining his success at Notre Dame. Why on earth would anybody choose Lexington Kentucky over Vanderbilt in Nashville unless that history and the support it brings was driving it.

This applies to football too. It can be built, but it's hard. We know, we watched Jim Calhoun do it. What Snyder did at K-State was incredible. So yes, Shrewsbury could have tried, but most coaches won't do that. Edsall bailed on us and we are concerned that Mora will do the same. Honestly, if he's really good here, my concern is that LSU will come for him. Maybe Georgia Tech.

The point, as pertains to this thread is that if you have more $, you at least have a chance to level pay those coaches and keep them. In the Big East we really have no chance to do that.
 
As of this morning 6/9/2023 twitter rumors are a b12 invite is imminent for UConn to join as a full member. The BE stay or go have been discussed ad infinitum so people have pretty much made up their mind. IMHO, if and when a b12 invite comes, UConn will accept the offer. As a BB fan, this a a great decision for the university and the UConn athletic department. I believe in Coach Mora and go by what he said. HC Mora never came to UConn for the money, he will be here. He will win at UConn. Same for HC Hurley he is not going anywhere.
 
upstater said:
You've never been to Georgetown? It's in a city that is half African-American.

As usual, you don't know WTF you're talking about
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The school idiot, since you want to be an .
 
HuskyHawk said:
Shrewsbury knew he'd have a better chance of sustaining his success at Notre Dame.
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Very true. What I find most humorous is how those knocking Penn St on this transaction (and attempting to use it as evidence that the income disparity between P-5 and all others is not relevant) are implying that he left a P-5 school for a mid-major. He went from one P-5 to another
 
CL82 said:
I'm glad you have Greta facilities. I'm sure she appreciates them.

Fwiw, this is what I fortune on PC mens basketball total revenues:

The Providence men’s basketball program paid out $12,448,442 in expenses while making $12,448,442 in total revenue

So, if total revenues are 12.5 million how could ticket sales be 20 million? We know that providence college makes one about 4 1/2 million from Big East distributions. So that would seem to be no more than $8M in ticket sales, right? Probably less because I would think you get revenue from your uniform deal, right? And then there is your various Branding contracts, sales of merchandise etc. anyway how much is Cooley getting now $6M? I guess that worked out for the best, because you guys really couldn't afford him.
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PC spends the 20th most on men’s basketball of any school and breaks even. You’re info is bad. We couldn’t afford him? I’m done, you’ve won. Have a greta weekend.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Well this went off the rails. The demographics of these places aren't the issue. History matters. Ours has helped Hurley get guys he could not get at another local "flagship" New England University, URI.

Shrewsbury knew he'd have a better chance of sustaining his success at Notre Dame. Why on earth would anybody choose Lexington Kentucky over Vanderbilt in Nashville unless that history and the support it brings was driving it.

This applies to football too. It can be built, but it's hard. We know, we watched Jim Calhoun do it. What Snyder did at K-State was incredible. So yes, Shrewsbury could have tried, but most coaches won't do that. Edsall bailed on us and we are concerned that Mora will do the same. Honestly, if he's really good here, my concern is that LSU will come for him. Maybe Georgia Tech.

The point, as pertains to this thread is that if you have more $, you at least have a chance to level pay those coaches and keep them. In the Big East we really have no chance to do that.
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It just seems silly, these are all the same things that were said 10 years ago on this board when UConn found itself in the AAC. Big East basketball is finished forever, those schools will never again be able to compete, UConn is better off now, Big East schools can't pay for coaching etc. Here we are years later with 3 more Big East national championships in men's basketball and the Big East has the best collection of coaches in the country.

I don't really have a dog in this fight but I've been getting deja vu.
 
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