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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%
  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%
  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%

  • Total voters
    650
No I really don't think it would. And it wouldn't be a singular addition of UConn anyway. I think you can cherry pick evidence to show why it's not the best, but the overwhelming evidence is the opposite
Really? Has west va ever won the big 12? Was cuse ever a 1 seed in the acc? Has bc ever been relevant? Pitt even in the early days lost their juice in the conference. What evidence would you point to suggesting that being a geographical outlier is beneficial?
 
Here would be a prospective football schedule in the Big 12:
1. Sacred Heart (H)
2. Syracuse (A)
3. BC (H)
4. Texas Tech (A)
5. Iowa State (H)
6. Kansas (H)
7. Oklahoma State (A)
8. BYU (H)
9. UCF (A)
10. Cincy (H)
11. Houston (A)
12. WVU (H)

It's an upgrade in football for sure.

In basketball, our schedule could look like (if they go to 20 conference games with 14 teams):
OOC:
MTE, Nova, St. John's, Providence, 5 cupcakes
Kansas 2x
WVU 2x
Cincy 2x
BYU 2x
Houston 2x
UCF 2x
OSU 2x
KSU 1x
UNLV 1x (assuming we pair with them)
Iowa State 1x
Texas Tech 1x
Baylor 1x
TCU 1x
 
I get the money issue snd I agree it's near impossible to turn down but what happens if we move and then half the teams go to another conference a few years later. Then we are back to where we were and I doubt the Big East would take us back a 2nd time.
Unlikely as none of these teams are wanted by the SEC or B1G. The only movement would be UConn, WVU, Cincy, and maybe UCF leaving to join the ACC leftovers.
 
I get the money issue snd I agree it's near impossible to turn down but what happens if we move and then half the teams go to another conference a few years later. Then we are back to where we were and I doubt the Big East would take us back a 2nd time.

Every decision has risk, including staying in the big east. I’ll take the one with way more money top tier basketball and good football
 
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If it does happen, there would be some fun match ups on the basketball side with the Hurley brothers facing each other, a nice potential rivalry with the Jayhawks and Arizona.

On the football side, Oklahoma State, Baylor and Texas Tech are great games to look forward to.

Being in the 3rd best conference is not that bad
 
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People saw the best AAC schools get invited to the B12 and determined it’s just the AAC all over again. Those people can only be described as lesser functioning humans.

Put it this way. In the AAC, ECU is ECU. In the B12, Iowa St is ECU. It’s a world of a difference, especially in basketball, where they currently have the best league. A new rivalry with Kansas would be born overnight, and don’t tell me that’s not exciting. Football and Baseball would be saved and made much more relevant to casual viewers. And that’s before getting into the 50 million dollars.

Anyone who says no has not thought about this hard enough.
 
I’m really curious what Hurley and Geno REALLY think about BE vs B12. I think basketball only BE is better but for health of overall department- B12 is no brainer.

Where would u rather be if you were Hurley or Geno?
 
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Every other freaking university in the USA is saying that the $$$ are the most important thing. W T F !!!
Rutgers lost more money than ever with the big 10 checks flowing in. In a simplistic sense teams want more money, more money doesn’t equal success is the point I’m making….and as a fan success and interest are most important to me
 
I’m really curious what Hurley and Geno REALLY think about BE vs B12. I think basketball only BE is better but for health of overall department- B12 is no brainer.

Where would u rather be if you were Hurley or Geno?
I think geno at his age would want less travel, but he’s probably not too worried about the distant future.
 
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Guys. If you are Benedict, Maric, and the Board of Trustees, there is zero chance they turn down an invite if the dollars are even remotely close to what they are. They have to act as fiduciaries of the institution.

Would I want to go to Big 12? Probably not. But the money isn't there any other way. UConn could sell out football and hoops games and still be at an operating deficit.
 
MBB and WBB singlehandedly kept UConn alive (albeit on life support not too long ago) as a national brand for basically a decade. It's time to strike while the iron is hot and continue to move all athletics forward as they have under Benedict. A P5 conference is the next logical step. The University made a massive step forward with the Jim Mora hire and subsequent turnaround in year 1, and as an alum/fan I want to continue the momentum.

Yeah, I'd miss the emotional aspect of the Big East, but if I want long-term athletic viability across sports and universal brand recognition of my alma mater, then the Big 12 is a massive upgrade. We just delivered the Big East its third national championship in the last 7 tournaments, and 4 of the last 5 have been either BE or Big 12. At WORST, the move is a neutral one for basketball while everything else gets more exciting. We don't owe the Big East anything for "taking us in", especially with the added talent, credibility, and tournament money we just gave them.
 
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It would be a mistake. Their two best programs are leaving, so who knows what the league would even look like when we get there? We have absolutely no cultural connection to the league. I know the AAC stunk comparatively, but being in a league where your school doesn't fit culturally is a bigger problem than most people think. Even the good schools from the AAC like Cincinnati and Houston, there's no juice there.

The other big issue is that leaving the Big East is going to weaken our program. No more rivalries with any kind of history. It'll change the kinds of players we recruit, and not by choice, but because a lot of the players we go after want to play in the Big East and in MSG in March. I'm not naive enough to think we're going to stay in the Big East forever, but does the Big 12 make sense long-term?

Right now we're in a great fit. Ditching that for a bad fit when the whole college landscape is likely to change in 10-15 years anyway is foolish.
 
It would be a mistake. Their two best programs are leaving, so who knows what the league would even look like when we get there? We have absolutely no cultural connection to the league. I know the AAC stunk comparatively, but being in a league where your school doesn't fit culturally is a bigger problem than most people think. Even the good schools from the AAC like Cincinnati and Houston, there's no juice there.

The other big issue is that leaving the Big East is going to weaken our program. No more rivalries with any kind of history. It'll change the kinds of players we recruit, and not by choice, but because a lot of the players we go after want to play in the Big East and in MSG in March. I'm not naive enough to think we're going to stay in the Big East forever, but does the Big 12 make sense long-term?

Right now we're in a great fit. Ditching that for a bad fit when the whole college landscape is likely to change in 10-15 years anyway is foolish.
Said perfectly… I would add the travel would suck… I think we lose Hurley if we join the big 12…. And our recruiting goes down the tubes
 
Is making the most money the most important thing in your opinion?
No. The most important thing in sports is winning. I would rather win and not generate tons of revenue than generate tons of revenue and lose. Money is just a means to the end.

That having been said, what do you think the answer to the following questions is: are the long term odds of winning greater if you make more money or less money?
 
No. The most important thing in sports is winning. I would rather win and not generate tons of revenue than generate tons of revenue and lose. Money is just a means to the end.

That having been said, what do you think the answer to the following questions is: are the long term odds of winning greater if you make more money or less money?
THIS. Those acting as if we’ll continue to win championships as the financial gap gets greater are delusional. We’re on a raft in the middle of the ocean. We need to jump on the first vessel that sails by. It may not be the yacht we want, but it’s more secure than the damn raft that is the big east
 
uconn called the big 12 and begged to be considered.

smh when will these mid majors learn their place in the world.

no one in the big 12 wants them, whereas everyone in the cyo is so blessed to have em.

stay where you're wanted.
 
uconn called the big 12 and begged to be considered.

smh when will these mid majors learn their place in the world.

no one in the big 12 wants them, whereas everyone in the cyo is so blessed to have em.

stay where you're wanted.
Tell that to Yormark who is sniffing us. Also, you are a replacement school. We would be a true expansion school.
 
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