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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
Short of a Big 10 invite, I’d stay in the Big East. The move would be to look at the Big East adding schools that would be hurt by an ACC breakup. Syracuse, BC, Pitt, and Louisville potentially. That also would enable those schools to maintain natural basketball and football rivalries.
 
I think you need to take (and pursue) a Big 12 offer. I don’t look at it as a permanent move. But it gets you in the club. Should the ACC blow up, it would involve some of its better teams (and more peer schools to UConn) joining the Big 12.

It would kind of suck. I’d only care about a couple teams, and I wouldn’t be able to go the NY/NJ away games, but it wouldn’t be the same as the AAC was simply because the other schools care about, and invest, in basketball.
 
shizzle787 said:
Tell that to Yormark who is sniffing us. Also, you are a replacement school. We would be a true expansion school.
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uconn being mentioned as "expansion" candidates along with true powers like unlv, Fresno State, Colorado State, smu and sdsu.

take the hint guys, we're not that into you.
 
Chuck said:
I think you need to take (and pursue) a Big 12 offer. I don’t look at it as a permanent move. But it gets you in the club. Should the ACC blow up, it would involve some of its better teams (and more peer schools to UConn) joining the Big 12.

It would kind of suck. I’d only care about a couple teams, and I wouldn’t be able to go the NY/NJ away games, but it wouldn’t be the same as the AAC was simply because the other schools care about, and invest, in basketball.
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Exactly. Also, if you get into the Big 12, you are one step away from the Big 10. Right now we are in the third tier (for football). We need to get to the second tier (ACC, Big 12, Pac 12).
 
Jbirdp5 said:
Really? Has west va ever won the big 12? Was cuse ever a 1 seed in the acc? Has bc ever been relevant? Pitt even in the early days lost their juice in the conference. What evidence would you point to suggesting that being a geographical outlier is beneficial?
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I would consider it a success for West Virginia. But that's besides the point because my larger point is I don't think when all the dominos fall we'd be a geographic outlier
 
shizzle787 said:
Unlikely as none of these teams are wanted by the SEC or B1G. The only movement would be UConn, WVU, Cincy, and maybe UCF leaving to join the ACC leftovers.
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It’s the aac on steroids. Forget that travel. Boo. No.
 
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Let's see, an extra 20 million per year over 10 years equals an extra 200 million over 10 years.

Unless some of you Providence and St john's rivalry lovers are willing to make up this difference in cash, we take the invite and schedule the Big East schools out of conference.

Don't forget P5 schools may soon be waving a lot of money at Hurley, everyone has their breaking point.
 
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TheHorde said:
Short of a Big 10 invite, I’d stay in the Big East. The move would be to look at the Big East adding schools that would be hurt by an ACC breakup. Syracuse, BC, Pitt, and Louisville potentially. That also would enable those schools to maintain natural basketball and football rivalries.
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The issue with this is that if ACC breaks up - big12 would invite those schools and they’d go for the $ rather than rejoin a reconstructed old BE. Then we’d really be screwed without any seats left
 
HooperScooper said:
If an offer comes then it's not Benedict's decision to make.
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Right, at the end of the day the school's business people make the decision, you know, people who are interested in things like revenue. The decision for them will be very easy.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Let's see, an extra 20 million per year over 10 years equals an extra 200 million over 10 years.

Unless some of you Providence and St john's rivalry lovers are willing to make up this difference in cash, we take the invite and schedule the Big East schools out of conference.

Don't forget P5 schools may soon be waving a lot of money at Hurley, everyone has their breaking point.
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If we go to the Big 12, Hurley is gone.
 
AdamaNation said:
It’s the aac on steroids. Forget that travel. Boo. No.
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The AD is done within 20 years if we don't make the move. If you want to get in the Big 10 someday, you have to get in the ACC or Big 12 first. You can't jump two levels.
 
Rico444 said:
If we go to the Big 12, Hurley is gone.
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That makes no sense at all. He joined UCONN when we were in the AAC. He went on record in interviews that there were no Big East promises when he signed on. Besides the B12 is a heck of a basketball conference and will be able to stake their claim as the best basketball conference if they add UCONN.

and lets stop pretending that Big East traveling is a bunch of easy bus rides.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
That make no sense at all. He join UCONN when we were in the AAC. He went on record in interviews that there were no Big East promises when he sign on. Besides the B12 is a heck of a basketball conference and will be able to stake their claim as the best basketball conference if they add UCONN.
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Hurley came here from URI, he was in a much different position to take or not take a job. There were no promises, but I'm sure Hurley knew what the university's plan was. Compare that, the possibility of going to the Big East with his school throwing that away to ship us out to the Midwest...there's no way he stays, especially when he could take almost any other job he wants. And while that's true that he could do the same now, I believe the allure of UConn and the Big East is too much for him to walk away from for anything short of the NBA.
 
HuskyHoosier said:
The issue with this is that if ACC breaks up - big12 would invite those schools and they’d go for the $ rather than rejoin a reconstructed old BE. Then we’d really be screwed without any seats left
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I’d think that if the ACC breaks up it would be because the Big 10 pillaged the pick of the litter like UNC, Virginia, Florida State, etc. The schools I mentioned probably would not be sought by the Big 10 for expansion purposes.
 
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It’s not what I want at all, but it’s what has to be done. The Big East will not remain a “Power” conference forever as the gap in money continues to grow. It just won’t.

When the ACC breaks up, Pitt will likely get an offer from the B12. Then we’d have a true rival. Maybe they’d throw in Syracuse too to get a true northeast contingent.
 
Rico444 said:
Hurley came here from URI, he was in a much different position to take or not take a job. There were no promises, but I'm sure Hurley knew what the university's plan was. Compare that, the possibility of going to the Big East with his school throwing that away to ship us out to the Midwest...there's no way he stays, especially when he could take almost any other job he wants. And while that's true that he could do the same now, I believe the allure of UConn and the Big East is too much for him to walk away from for anything short of the NBA.
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This is pure baseless speculation. You’ve not given one solid reason why he’d leave. Not one. He took over the job in the AAC. There was no BE guarantee.

He’s recruiting nationwide at this point. He’ll be fine. And if not? We’d have 20 million dollars extra per year to hire whomever we want
 
AntG168 said:
Why? We’re recruiting kid from Seattle at this point. Hurley is w smart guy. He knows the BE isn’t a long term solution. Part of the B12 move would be to pay him and his staff
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Hurley is a Northeast guy, a Big East guy. Our program has the perfect combination of being both a high-level brand in college basketball and a perfect cultural fit for Hurley. Take away cultural fit and there goes his incentive to stay.
 
Still 50/50 to stay? And we are peddling Hurley fears as a justification to stay?

I like Hurley, but if he gave any grief over moving I’d fire him now for a Big12 landing spot. And then use 5 of my extra 20m to find a replacement.
 
For fans the answer is no
For the AD the answer is yes.
We can stay in the NBE and rack up wins. Or we can take the money and secure our long term future.
20 years from now there may not be an NCAA tournament as we know it, or even a BE conference. I say take the money and get a seat at the table.
 
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AntG168 said:
Hurley is not at UConn because we’re in the BE
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I get that he took the job 5 years ago when he was the coach at URI. If he had to choose at that time between UConn (playing games in East Cowfart, OK) or UNC, which job do you think he would have taken? That's what we're up against now.

I believe from having heard Hurley talk over the last few years that he finds the Big East special, and that allure means he wants to be here. Hell, he didn't get a contract extension this offseason after winning a national championship, and yet we didn't hear a peep about any school offering him a job. Why do you think that is?
 
Rico444 said:
I get that he took the job 5 years ago when he was the coach at URI. If he had to choose at that time between UConn (playing games in East Cowfart, OK) or UNC, which job do you think he would have taken? That's what we're up against now.

I believe from having heard Hurley talk over the last few years that he finds the Big East special, and that allure means he wants to be here. Hell, he didn't get a contract extension this offseason after winning a national championship, and yet we didn't hear a peep about any school offering him a job. Why do you think that is?
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Hurley thinks UCONN is special, and he is right.
 
UConn made a mess of the Kevin Ollie firing because it was cash strapped. You know what solves those types of difficult situations from becoming embarrassing ones in the future? More revenue. Like the type you would get from joining the Big 12.
 
Rico444 said:
I get that he took the job 5 years ago when he was the coach at URI. If he had to choose at that time between UConn (playing games in East Cowfart, OK) or UNC, which job do you think he would have taken? That's what we're up against now.

I believe from having heard Hurley talk over the last few years that he finds the Big East special, and that allure means he wants to be here. Hell, he didn't get a contract extension this offseason after winning a national championship, and yet we didn't hear a peep about any school offering him a job. Why do you think that is?
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I think you’re overthinking it by A LOT
 
Ts5034 said:
Kansas is nice, but I could not care less about playing the likes of Iowa St, Oklahoma St, TCU…
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Forget those schools… imagine being in a conference with UCF (again) and BYU. I’d rather eat glass
 
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