Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

[aburks41]

I think we'd have to take the invite, but I'm skeptical it would go well for us. Travel is an underappreciated detriment to college basketball success. Traveling over 1,000 miles to a game can effectively double home court advantage for the opposition. There's a reason we basically never won at Tulsa or Houston or SMU. And the teams in the B12 are generally better. We'd rarely win on the road.

We were 0-6 against SMU on the road, 1-5 vs. Tulsa, and 1-5 vs. Houston.

With the extra money we could charter flights, I don’t think it would be an issue. Also those teams we had in the AAC stunk because they had bad players and a coach who didn’t show up for work half the time

 

[aburks41]

Hurley came here from URI, he was in a much different position to take or not take a job. There were no promises, but I'm sure Hurley knew what the university's plan was. Compare that, the possibility of going to the Big East with his school throwing that away to ship us out to the Midwest...there's no way he stays, especially when he could take almost any other job he wants. And while that's true that he could do the same now, I believe the allure of UConn and the Big East is too much for him to walk away from for anything short of the NBA.

Lol wait so Hurley only wants to be at UConn because of the Big East, and he’s a northeast guy, but suddenly if we’re in the B12 he would go to an SEC school or something? That makes zero sense. Hurley is at UConn because he wanted to he at UConn. He just won a National Championship here. UConn is the best job in college other than Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, and Duke right now.

 

[temery]

This is a hell of a take.

Google hyperbole

 

[Sole]

We jump ship and leave the big east…the big east would never take us back again if things went sideways

 

[Rico444]

Lol wait so Hurley only wants to be at UConn because of the Big East, and he’s a northeast guy, but suddenly if we’re in the B12 he would go to an SEC school or something? That makes zero sense. Hurley is at UConn because he wanted to he at UConn. He just won a National Championship here. UConn is the best job in college other than Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, and Duke right now.

I never said he only wants to be here because of the Big East, that's obviously not true since we weren't in the Big East when he took the job. But do you really think that's not a huge factor when deciding on staying versus going elsewhere?

UConn might be the fifth best brand in college basketball but it's not the fifth best job right now. If you polled 50 college basketball writers without an affiliation to UConn you'd be lucky to find more than a handful that believe that.

 

[ecasadoSBU]

I'm a fan. As a fan I only care about wins.

UConn has been the most successful in a decade the larger the deficit grows. It had a smaller deficit in the AAC and it sucked all around.

So to me... I see a trend between a larger monetary deficit and more wins across all our programs. Keep the wins coming. Grow the deficit. Stay in the Big East!

Not even our own country, a hegemonic superpower, can find a way to stay away from deficits. So why should UConn?

Screw all the armchair CFOs of the Boneyard! Stay in the Big East! I waited for so long for the dream of returning to the B.E to come true. I started canvassing here back in 2014. And now they want to snatch it away again?


(Okay, everything above is to be taken lightly and somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I am a numbers person and have my small business... I say this before someone takes my comment too seriously and bombards me with b.s)

 

[navery12]

I never said he only wants to be here because of the Big East, that's obviously not true since we weren't in the Big East when he took the job. But do you really think that's not a huge factor when deciding on staying versus going elsewhere?

UConn might be the fifth best brand in college basketball but it's not the fifth best job right now. If you polled 50 college basketball writers without an affiliation to UConn you'd be lucky to find more than a handful that believe that.

No, Hurley leaving if we accepted a B12 invitation is not even in the top 1000 things taken into consideration for that decision. It's just such an absurd hypothetical it's not even worth discussing

 

[willie99]

As of 6:59, 40% of our fan base is clueless and would stay in the Big East. Yikes.

As of 9:08 AM on 5/17/2023

There are three conferences that won't be raided
1) SEC
2) B10
3) Big East

Everybody else is in a state of flux. The only exception might be the Big East, and the only school that might get plucked is UConn

I'm talking as a fan, a basketball fan. We have all we need to compete

Why the Big 12? To compete against KU in hoops? That conference will look a lot like the AAC soon enough

Since it's unlikely we'll ever be an SEC school, it's B10 or bust

 

[elmcityboy]

the only sport i truly care about is basketball. we've proven we can win championships and reassert ourselves as national powers in the big east, so why would we, as basketball fans, want to leave?

people on this board love dumping on cuse and BC for taking the money, forgoing basketball, and becoming middling/irrelevant programs. i think there's a good chance that the same thing happens to uconn if we go to the big 12, which is a sinking ship in and of itself. how will fans feel then? do you think the big east will invite us back for a third time if it doesn't work out??

 

[Rico444]

No, Hurley leaving if we accepted a B12 invitation is not even in the top 1000 things taken into consideration for that decision. It's just such an absurd hypothetical it's not even worth discussing

We're talking about separate things here. I expect that leadership at the college wouldn't turn down a Big 12 invite. For them, the money is the most important thing, I get it. But do you think Syracuse fans are happy they jumped to the ACC and are making more money? How about Pitt fans?

If we go to the Big 12 it's going to hurt our basketball program, full stop. I get that changing conferences has to happen eventually, but this isn't the right move.

 

[king conn]

It could change it could not. There is no certainty in your scenario either. Also the Big 12 schools signed a Grant of Rights as well. Previously i have heard you pontificate on how solid those are. Why is the Big 12 so vulnerable with theirs? It runs till 2031 bot 2036 like the ACCs.

What Big 12’s new TV deal means for BYU, the new-look conference and Pac-12 negotiations

The Big 12 is expected to finalize a six-year media rights extension with current partners ESPN and Fox that would pay out an average of $31.6 million to each school.

www.deseret.com

According to this, the 30 million dollar figure is just for media rights.

The total figure per year is around 50 million per year

We are not turning that down. Say hello to Kansas if the offer comes

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Why not just move football to the Big 12 and play everything else in the Big East? Agree to 2 games a year or something for both hoops teams.

One move I think should be explored is having the Big East offer to absorb all the ACC schools. This gets the ACC out of their long-term contract, and creates a potential basketball behemoth. It might get ESPN to jump and renegotiate the ACC deal to prevent it from happening, which is also a win for the ACC. Maybe the Big East gets a break up fee like 10% of the incremental contract for helping the ACC out.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

According to this, the 30 million dollar figure is just for media rights.

The total figure per year is around 50 million per year

We are not turning that down. Say hello to Kansas if the offer comes

If there is a market that gets the hodge podge of flyover schools and community colleges like the Big 12 that much money, then let's see how well the Big East can do on its own.

 

[navery12]

We're talking about separate things here. I expect that leadership at the college wouldn't turn down a Big 12 invite. For them, the money is the most important thing, I get it. But do you think Syracuse fans are happy they jumped to the ACC and are making more money? How about Pitt fans?

If we go to the Big 12 it's going to hurt our basketball program, full stop. I get that changing conferences has to happen eventually, but this isn't the right move.

No, we're not talking about separate things. This is what you said. Don't backtrack now that you got called out

There were no promises, but I'm sure Hurley knew what the university's plan was. Compare that, the possibility of going to the Big East with his school throwing that away to ship us out to the Midwest...there's no way he stays, especially when he could take almost any other job he wants.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Yes, let's just ignore the difference in the rest of the conferences (ECU, Tulane, Tulsa, etc., vs. Kansas and Baylor).

 

[king conn]

If there is a market that gets the hodge podge of flyover schools and community colleges like the Big 12 that much money, then let's see how well the Big East can do on its own.

We should know the answer to this soon if we don't already with the Big East deal up next

If ESPN and Fox want us in the Big 12 they will not overwhelm the Big East with their offer

 

[Rico444]

No, we're not talking about separate things. This is what you said. Don't backtrack now that you got called out

We're talking about completely different things. You said this:

No, Hurley leaving if we accepted a B12 invitation is not even in the top 1000 things taken into consideration for that decision.

I agree with that statement, at least the sentiment of it: I'm sure whether or not Hurley stays is in the top 1000 things they think about, but pretty far down the list and doesn't hold much weight with their decision. I'm not talking about what I think the University will do, or even what the smart business decision is. What exactly am I backtracking about?

 

[navery12]

We're talking about completely different things. You said this:



I agree with that statement, at least the sentiment of it: I'm sure whether or not Hurley stays is in the top 1000 things they think about, but pretty far down the list and doesn't hold much weight with their decision. I'm not talking about what I think the University will do, or even what the smart business decision is. What exactly am I backtracking about?

There is a 0% chance Dan Hurley leaves the school if we accept a B12 invite. Dave Benedict and the president aren't even thinking about that because it's not happening. It's an idiotic thing to suggest

 

[CL82]

It's just a fun poll. It's not a scientific poll.

Well, if it's not scientific it has no place on The Boneyard.

 

[John]

If there is a market that gets the hodge podge of flyover schools and community colleges like the Big 12 that much money, then let's see how well the Big East can do on its own.

it's laughable you're throwing shade at Big 12 schools considering the small time privates we're stuck with.

 

[CL82]

You're right, but given what might happen to the ACC. I would much rather UConn be in a safe conference. If 8 ACC teams dissolve the conference those remaining teams will all be scrambling to get into the Big 12 and UConn will already have a seat at the table.

It's unfortunate, but maybe a necessary move. Who really knows?

Post/handle?!

 

[Palatine]

Why not just move football to the Big 12 and play everything else in the Big East? Agree to 2 games a year or something for both hoops teams.

One move I think should be explored is having the Big East offer to absorb all the ACC schools. This gets the ACC out of their long-term contract, and creates a potential basketball behemoth. It might get ESPN to jump and renegotiate the ACC deal to prevent it from happening, which is also a win for the ACC. Maybe the Big East gets a break up fee like 10% of the incremental contract for helping the ACC out.

Why not just sprinkle everything with pixie dust? Sorry that is not how it works. We go or don't go. But none of this speculation amounts to anything. Many shoes will drop before UConn has any options.

 

[gtcam]

We jump ship and leave the big east…the big east would never take us back again if things went sideways

Yes they will but if UConn goes P5 its a moot point.
The NBE is good for UConn mens hoops and UConn mens hoops is good for the NBE (soccer also gets a bump in comp) and thats it.
The money, however, sucks.
A school like UConn needs P5 money desperately to run an athletic program that it currently enjoys.
You can't get that being in a non football conference.
Regardless of what Nelson and others say, the B12 isn't going to be in the dumpster any quicker than the B10 or ACC if a few programs jump ship. You build strength with numbers and thats what these P5s are doing. Hell, if Bama leaves the SEC, that would be devastating because a lot of SEC schools make a ton of money off of Bama football.

 

[CL82]

Rutgers lost more money than ever with the big 10 checks flowing in. In a simplistic sense teams want more money, more money doesn’t equal success is the point I’m making….and as a fan success and interest are most important to me

Ah but that's Rutgers. I think we can aspire a little higher than that.

 

[Samoo]

We're talking about separate things here. I expect that leadership at the college wouldn't turn down a Big 12 invite. For them, the money is the most important thing, I get it. But do you think Syracuse fans are happy they jumped to the ACC and are making more money? How about Pitt fans?

If we go to the Big 12 it's going to hurt our basketball program, full stop. I get that changing conferences has to happen eventually, but this isn't the right move.

We are not Syracuse, BC or Pitt. We do things differently and much more successfully when given the opportunity.

UConn is not going to fall off the edge of a cliff by joining the best basketball conference in the land and with the influx of $30 million.

 

[CL82]

uconn called the big 12 and begged to be considered.

smh when will these mid majors learn their place in the world.

no one in the big 12 wants them, whereas everyone in the cyo is so blessed to have em.

stay where you're wanted.

On a somewhat related note, UCLA had a hell of a run this year. It's weird how Cronin used to flame out in the tourney until he moved there, isn't it? I guess sometimes it's just harder to win at a mid major.

 

[Rico444]

There is a 0% chance Dan Hurley leaves the school if we accept a B12 invite. Dave Benedict and the president aren't even thinking about that because it's not happening. It's an idiotic thing to suggest

Idiotic? Give me a break dude. Your judgment has always been clouded by how biased you are, you always say ridiculous stuff like "UConn is a top 5 job today!" You can keep living in your fantasy world, have fun.

 

[king conn]

Idiotic? Give me a break dude. Your judgment has always been clouded by how biased you are, you always say ridiculous stuff like "UConn is a top 5 job today!" You can keep living in your fantasy world, have fun.

If it isn't a top 5 job, that's only because we can't afford to pay our coaches what they deserve

A Big 12 offer would solve that

 

[Slick]

If the Big 12 offers what should we do?

I think we have a large payout to the big east that factors in.

 

[noeynox]

There is a 0% chance Dan Hurley leaves the school if we accept a B12 invite. Dave Benedict and the president aren't even thinking about that because it's not happening. It's an idiotic thing to suggest

In one of the interviews post natty, the host brought up the Big East as a reason for the success he was having and his response was it would have happened no matter what league they were in. There were so many interviews i don't remember which one it was.