Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

[HuskyHawk]

Cool graphic. Took me a while to figure out the lone Independent program.

UCLA surprises me. Normally the Land Grant schools have a strong agricultural school (or did).

 

[upstater]

Is Land Grant an important thing in all of this? I don't really know why it's a significant part of the discussion.

 

[NJHusky]

College athletics will be irrelevant if that happens. There is no way that graduates of one school that used to be at the highest level of college athletics will EVER remain fans of college sports if their school is prevented from competing at the highest level. Also, if college athletics looks too much like a minor league, the NFL and NBA will step in and just take it from the schools. There is no scenario in which 30 schools dominate a nationally followed college league in football or basketball.

There is no way NFL ever creates\takes over…..right now they have a free feeder system that gives them 3 years of info on players.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

UCLA surprises me. Normally the Land Grant schools have a strong agricultural school (or did).

Ag & mechanical sciences, military and other sciences. In California, Cal, UC Davis, Santa Barbara, San Diego, Riverside, other. In CT, originally Yale which still has a renowned forestry department, then transferred to CT Agricultural School (now UConn). A&M(echanical) and A&T(echnology) universities, e.g., aTm, NC A&T (HBCU Land Grant along with NC State), Alabama A&T. Plus, Cornell, and many State universities, including some HBCUs.

 

[aburks41]

Colorado seems like they are about to be the first domino to fall...

 

[shizzle787]

When Colorado bolted for the Pac-12 over a decade, they had a meeting with the same agenda.

 

[Kolumbo]

Is Land Grant an important thing in all of this? I don't really know why it's a significant part of the discussion.

There are 21 Land Grant U's between the B1G and SEC and only 12 between the Big East, Big XII, PAC 10, and ACC. It appears to be a fairly significant factor.

 

[upstater]

There are 21 Land Grant U's between the B1G and SEC and only 12 between the Big East, Big XII, PAC 10, and ACC. It appears to be a fairly significant factor.

I would put much more emphasis on big state universities than I would on the land grant aspect of all this.

For instance, Virginia Tech. Many of the Cals (Surprised there are 2 of them since the whole system was really a 40s and 50s phenomenon). There are even some flagships like SUNY Buffalo that are not land grant.

 

[August_West]

Everyone hid a rock bottom. Few do it on a Boneyard post.

Friarj is good people. Even though I tell him he roots for wrong team.

 

[August_West]

I think if you're operating under the assumption that they want to go West and would only take us because they need another school to add with Colorado, that's a bad sign. We really don't want to be out on an island and if future expansion happens, have to start traveling even further west. We would probably need assurances that the future plans include adding teams on the east coast

How is anyone involved in CR in 2023 especially a loser like Big12 ( Texas and Oklahoma just left, and took cinci and UCF, so spare me the rebuttal) going to make assurances on ANYTHING?!

 

[Kolumbo]

I would put much more emphasis on big state universities than I would on the land grant aspect of all this.

For instance, Virginia Tech. Many of the Cals (Surprised there are 2 of them since the whole system was really a 40s and 50s phenomenon). There are even some flagships like SUNY Buffalo that are not land grant.

Very true, land grant or flagship. UNC, UVA, Michigan, Texas are prime examples.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

UConn was a prop once again

 

[nelsonmuntz]

There is no way NFL ever creates\takes over…..right now they have a free feeder system that gives them 3 years of info on players.

It is not free at all. College football leverages the fact that it is the NFL's minor league to generate billions of dollars for the colleges. Every dollar that goes to college football could be a dollar that would go to the NFL.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

UConn was a prop once again

That's only if we allow it to happen. We need to be confident.

 

[BigTenFan]

That's only if we allow it to happen. We need to be confident.

Let's hope we didn't get Krafted

 

[aburks41]

Aaand this is why we needed to get an invite. Once you are out of the club, you are out forever. We’re screwed

 

[HU5KIES]

Aaand this is why we needed to get an invite. Once you are out of the club, you are out forever. We’re screwed

They just added 4 schools that were 'out of the club'

 

[aburks41]

They just added 4 schools that were 'out of the club'

Because they had no P5 options at the time and they were negotiating a TV deal. Now they have an entire Pac 12 to choose from. And in 2036 they’ll have half the ACC to pick from. We’re getting locked out

 

[Smp7598]

Because they had no P5 options at the time and they were negotiating a TV deal. Now they have an entire Pac 12 to choose from. And in 2036 they’ll have half the ACC to pick from. We’re getting locked out

Exactly! All these anti Big 12 people need to realize the Big East is probably is UConn’s only option and always will be. In 20 years the Big East will be a very small fish in the big pond. All those threads of should we go or not and we were never a serious consideration.

 

[Bongo Fury]

Yep. There will be at least 4 big conferences and what’s left for the 5th will be lot better than the AAC was. MWC probably gets to be pretty solid.

Could the PAC and MWC combine in some way? Guess it would depend on anyone paying for broadcasting. OSU & WSU probably a little nervous about the future.

 

[CL82]

Aaand this is why we needed to get an invite. Once you are out of the club, you are out forever. We’re screwed

Trammel has been unwavering in his dislike for our addition. Hopefully, his opinion is coloring his reporting.

In any event once again rule one slips in the play. If this were year three or four of the Jim Mora era, we might look more attractive.

 

[Jorgensen]

Lol “woebegone football program” as if Kansas wasn’t a doormat the same years we were. Obviously with the right adjustments in coaching and support/resources that is actively changing, and it’s moreso the market delivered that will matter long term. My guess is some of the B12 ADs probably just think we’re “too small.”

Kansas football:

 

[Bongo Fury]

There is a negative stigma associated with UConn Football. Kansas and Duke have this a little too regardless of occasional success.

 

[uconndogs]

I'm wondering how much it all matters right now. I don't think the BiG and SEC are anywhere near done with expansion and the PAC and ACC are going to feel the brunt of that. That throws everything up in the air for everyone outside those conferences. As time marches on to the termination date of the ACC's GOR I have to believe it becomes easier to address and settle that with the schools that want out.

This is far from over.

 

[uconndogs]

One more thing.....

The Big 12 is going to have a tough go of it competing in football. Yes, I know that TCU just played in the championship, but I don't think that's sustainable. Texas is going to round up enormous resources for NIL and everyone else recruiting Texas will get whatever Texas passes on. Texas is going to figure it out and they will have the resources.