Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

[Scoe]

Nope.

Tonight, I am heading to my 2 sons' parent/player meeting for their HS football season for next year. I guarantee that out of the 125 kids and 75+ parents not one would walk out if they were told that doctors are close to diagnosing CTE in living people and I'm in MA never mind the South. Football is still king and young men will always want to play it with their parents cheering them on. Heck, I'm more worried when they drive out of the driveway which is a hell a lot more dangerous and yet still insurable.

Gotta love these anti football people who react to an injury or concussion with doom and gloom and really don’t give a damn about the guy. Has there been any stories of Demar Hamlin being fully recovered and playing football again, nope because that’s positive news.

 

[noeynox]

Then why increase the amount of games then, they need to expand rosters practice squad guys should on active rosters. Give teams two byw weeks. The XFL and USFL should be working with the NFL use those leagues as a feeder system with the NFL.

Those things may happen. I don't get what you are arguing. I'm saying they have changed rules to make football "safer". Why more games? More money. Players and owners both love more money.

 

[Scoe]

Those things may happen. I don't get what you are arguing. I'm saying they have changed rules to make football "safer". Why more games? More money. Players and owners both love more money.

Yep you said it more money I’m not buying the word “safety” from the NFL.

 

[JohnFSilver]

No, it isn't. Football has far and away the most concussions in youth sports.

No I have done work on this in the past. They don’t even allow headers in some youth leagues. In leagues where headers are legal it’s a problem.

 

[HuskyHawk]

No, it isn't. Football has far and away the most concussions in youth sports.

Soccer concussions are very problematic for girls. It’s a real issue.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Ive no idea why, but "Google monkey" just cracked me up.
The image of a monkey with a Google logo on his forehead, frantically banging away on some keyboard. What can I say, I'm a sucker for visuals.

 

[Friarsnoop]

UConn was a decade late from when Lew Perkins said that.

Consider, if UConn was able to do what it did in that first decade a whole decade prior to 2004, it would've been UConn and not BC that joined the ACC. Why did BC get in over UConn?

Football and the fact that the in the ACC didn't realize how little the Boston media market cares about college sports.

 

[husky429]

Soccer concussions are very problematic for girls. It’s a real issue.

Well aware. It's also not nearly as prevalent as football. I take a concussion refresher for sports every single year. We cover it.

 

[twiceahusky]

You might both be right about concussions, or both be wrong, depending how you look at it. But I appreciate that you guys just argue about it instead of actually research it and define the criteria.

According to the study attached below, the rate of concussions is significantly higher in football. However, I’d bet WAY more kids are playing soccer, so there probably are more concussions in soccer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191103172552id_/https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/50/5/292.full.pdf

 

[husky429]

No I have done work on this in the past. They don’t even allow headers in some youth leagues. In leagues where headers are legal it’s a problem.

You may have done work on this, but it clearly wasn't very good. There are FAR MORE concussions from football than any other youth sport.

Concussions happen in soccer quite a bit, but it's easy to fix. You just don't allow headers and the problem disappears. Can't do that with football.

 

[CL82]

How about you both win. It can be CL82 Field at UConn Dan Stadium.

I'll go halves with him on it, assuming we both win enough money.

 

[husky429]

You might both be right about concussions, or both be wrong, depending how you look at it. But I appreciate that you guys just argue about it instead of actually research it and define the criteria.

According to the study attached below, the rate of concussions is significantly higher in football. However, I’d bet WAY more kids are playing soccer, so there probably are more concussions in soccer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191103172552id_/https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/50/5/292.full.pdf

Why do you assume I haven't done the research? I did it today, and I've been to a concussion course every year for a decade. Good effort though!

The rates of concussions might be a little misleading because of no-header leagues in soccer. I think most non-club leagues are doing that now up here.

 

[Greg]

Since Duke is a Private school, they have no say. Now NC State is a question but UCLA abandoned Cal.

Do not underestimate the political clout Duke carries in NC. That would be a huge mistake.

 

[husky429]

You might both be right about concussions, or both be wrong, depending how you look at it. But I appreciate that you guys just argue about it instead of actually research it and define the criteria.

According to the study attached below, the rate of concussions is significantly higher in football. However, I’d bet WAY more kids are playing soccer, so there probably are more concussions in soccer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191103172552id_/https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/50/5/292.full.pdf

Football vs soccer numbers are similar for youth athletes. Many more football players in high school (teams are bigger).

Good effort!

 

[CL82]

Anybody actually measure the mileage?

Rentschler Field to Gampel is either 23, 24, or 25 miles depending on which route you take.

 

[The Yakk]

Consider, if UConn was able to do what it did in that first decade a whole decade prior to 2004, it would've been UConn and not BC that joined the ACC. Why did BC get in over UConn?

At that point, UConn did not want to leave. We were the flagship school in the Big East; we thought we could hold the conference together.

It was only later--when it was clear most of our conference mates were traitorous scum, and the Big East would not survive--that we started looking to the ACC. But too late.

 

[NowInStorrs]

How did we go from Big 12 to concussions? These threads never cease to amaze me.

 

[Jimdish255]

The the PAC 12 reaches an agreement to stay together and essentially spurns the Big 12’ advancements, doesn’t that signal the weakness of the Big 12 compared to the other P5s? Why would we want to jump to what could then be argued the weakest P5 conference and getting locked into that instead of retaining flexibility to see how things develop? If the PAC 12 GOR news is correct, that tells us what other schools think of this new Big 12.

Because while we wait to see "how things develop" we starve financially, lose fb recruiting battles, and eventually fall behind after our current coaches retire or are hired away. On top of that the BE makes it that much more expensive to leave. Time is not on our side.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I want to thank the Boneyard posters for convincing me that football CTE is a myth.

 

[John]

How did we go from Big 12 to concussions? These threads never cease to amaze me.

Silliness. In 50 years the nation's #1 popular sport may (or may not!!) still be at #1, so let's stay in the regional league that spans time zones with a bunch of small private religious schools.

 

[Jimdish255]

Is this for basketball? I’d rather see basketball stay in a consistently competitive basketball league that is no way a midmajor, and play good teams and have a chance at winning national titles (like we did this past year).

For all other sports, they can stay in a borderline mid major and win or play good schools and lose, or play good schools and win. I don’t care either way.

If the argument is we need to join the Big 12 to protect our basketball program from future consolidation in case P5 teams break off and make their own version of March Madness, then fine, I’m open to that argument.

If your argument starts with “we should join the big 12 because it helps football/baseball/soccer/track” , I’m out.

I think this kind of myopia is shared by a number of UConn fans. Basketball and nothing else matters. I also get the Big East nostalgia. Moving back was the right move. Basketball has thrived. Football Independence gave us options. But nostalgia is just that. I've been a fan since before my time on campus in the early 80's. Those battles were epic. But times have changed. The landscape has changed. Economic and competitive realities make this unsustainable in the long run, and dropping however many other sports you don't care about won't change that. And the old glory days burned into my memory of the Big East aren't coming back. We need to move forward.

 

[VindiKate]

Should schedule a few marquis fb games at Patriot Place

 

[mussels]

Silliness. In 50 years the nation's #1 popular sport may (or may not!!) still be at #1, so let's stay in the regional league that spans time zones with a bunch of small private religious schools.

The one that won three of the last seven basketball national championships?

Theres something to be said for knowing your strengths and weaknesses, and playing to your strengths.

 

[businesslawyer]

I want to thank the Boneyard posters for convincing me that football CTE is a myth.

Would you stop please.

 

[nadav]

You’re right you are very smart and I have no clue. You want to go to the big 12 that’s fine and maybe the right move, but the need for some to disrespect the big east on the way out doesn’t say smart it screams classless.

Yeah I get that.

 

[nadav]

I want to thank the Boneyard posters for convincing me that football CTE is a myth.

And for like the 8th time I’ll have to put you on ignore. No middle ground, just your opinion is correct and when argued, you just go over the top outlandish nonsense. When the SEC is playing flag football in 4 years I’ll be the first to tell you that you were correct. Go Big East! Go Independent Football!! Can’t wait to see the Apple Cash come pouring in.

 

[John]

The one that won three of the last seven basketball national championships?

Theres something to be said for knowing your strengths and weaknesses, and playing to your strengths.

Basketball is one small part of an athletic department, it's not the athletic department.

 

[Kolumbo]

Should schedule a few marquis fb games at Patriot Place

speaking of patriot place, they should at least consider turning The Rent area into something more than an empty stadium 350 days a year and cabella's. An on campus stadium becomes the campus crown jewel. A stadium at Rentschler Field is an isolated empty concrete structure getting minimum maintenance because no one sees it all year long except for half a dozen fall weekends.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

How did we go from Big 12 to concussions? These threads never cease to amaze me.

I skipped a page and had the same question.

 

[mussels]

Basketball is one small part of an athletic department, it's not the athletic department.

Basketball is hardly a small part of the athletic department. To most of the country, UConn Basketball defines UConn athletics. It puts us on the map.

But to your larger point, I just don’t see how all the extra travel with a move to the big 12, is anything but detrimental to women’s field hockey, track and field, swimming, and all the other “non professional“ sports that account for the bulk of UConn NCAA athletes.