POLL: #2 Stanford at #1 S. Carolina TUESDAY

[Gamecockfan77]

Off by 2 points. Total rebounds Stanford was +2. Offensive rebounds ...SC+9. And Stanford should have played more zone to stop Henderson streaking by Hull. SC took SEVENTEEN more shot attempts (73-56) that negated Stanford shooting higher percentages....by a lot. Stanford needs to remedy ball security before March. They use Jones, but that tales her out of scoring position and shot attempts. She only took EIGHT shots in 35 minutes!

Oh man, ESPN had it 40-40. Oh well.

 

[GoChips20]

Henderson the clear player of the game.

Congrats to Stanford on outrebounding SC. That didn’t happen in a single game last year and I wouldn’t have thought it would happen this year. If you’re going to take out the Gamecocks, you’ve got to come even on the boards or find a way to get ahead.

Prechtel is such an enigma to me — not in terms of talent and performance, but in terms of usage. What is the thought process behind her only playing 21 minutes? Those five blocks all seemed to come early. She’s an impactful player (isn’t that right, Louisville?)

Boston didn’t have a great shooting game and probably never will against Stanford. Tara dreams and schemes to stop her.

These teams sure seem to stuff the daylights out of each other. The last two meetups have had about 40 blocks, no exaggeration.

I honestly felt at halftime like SC was going to get back in the game, but I’m admittedly shocked that Stanford gave up an 18-point lead.

SC got way more out of Saxton (10/7/2) than they did in the Final Four (0/1/0) and that may have been the difference.

The fact that Henderson isn’t more broadly discussed as a potential top 6 or 7 pick in the W draft at this point is ridiculous to me.

All in all, much respect to a tough Stanford team who gave us everything we could handle and is very much a threat to repeat (not that anyone should have been doubting that).

South Carolina’s offense needs a lot of work. They might go undefeated from here but I’m apprehensive about their odds of taking out everyone in the NCAAT gauntlet without improved efficiency on that end of the floor.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Pretty sure Lexie Hull has the patent. She's allowed to push, grab, kick the ball, foul the shooter.

Lexie had 2 fouls in the first half and Boston had 0. What was your point exactly?


edit--Boston ended the game w/ 1 PF, in 38 minutes. I saw at least 4 in the first half alone. She is in a league of her own when it comes to the refs somehow never seeing any of the fouls she is committing.

 

[Drew8]

Thriller of a game. Stanford's offense looked really impressive; I thought their early threes might be daggers. South Carolina showed that they can weather a storm and get the win.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

This was another great game to watch with some great play from both sides overall.

SC has the depth UConn was hoping to have (and still could if everyone gets healthy) and right now is the favorite to win. They aren't unbeatable but don't have a lot of weaknesses.

Stanford is also quite good but their lack of a point guard is glaring in the games I've watched. They will win quite a few and could be at the FF with their talent but it's obvious they don't have that steadying force to control the tempo. Brink is a better player than she has shown against UT and SC but needs to pick it up.

Henderson was the difference maker. The officiating had some interesting calls but the fact is Stanford held a huge lead and lost it thanks to the pressure by SC and their variety of weapons.

It was a great way to wrap up a pre holiday schedule. I will give Dawn credit for as tough a schedule as I've seen in recent memory.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Lexie had 2 fouls in the first half and Boston had 0. What was your point exactly?


edit--Boston ended the game w/ 1 PF, in 38 minutes. I saw at least 4 in the first half alone. She is in a league of her own when it comes to the refs somehow never seeing any of the fouls she is committing.

Pretty weak. You generally have done better than this.

 

[cancontent]

We got a great game last night on national television. Maybe the refereeing was inconsistent, for both teams, but let's not let that take away from what I thought was an entertaining match up that I wish we could see more often.

 

[455Rocket]

Lexie had 2 fouls in the first half and Boston had 0. What was your point exactly?


edit--Boston ended the game w/ 1 PF, in 38 minutes. I saw at least 4 in the first half alone. She is in a league of her own when it comes to the refs somehow never seeing any of the fouls she is committing.

How about how she changes pivot feet at the high post and never gets called for traveling? How about how they stopped the game for her to get up?

 

[TheFarmFan]

It sounds like sour grapes when you say things like “home cooking” when the refs were terrible both ways and SC came back down 18.

Well when the ESPN front page headline is "S. Carolina wins 1-2 showdown with record rally," and just about everyone I've spoken too thought the reffing was fairly favorable to S. Carolina, you'll have to excuse me if my grapes were a bit sour minutes after the game ended.

All credit to S Carolina, and Stanford needs to deal with reffing that mildly favors the home team when they play away, because that's a common phenomenon in sports - it's well documented, not some sort of conspiracy on my part. Nor is it why Stanford lost.

Working on turning those sour grapes into wine, but give me another day.

 

[LoTrader]

Those are the 2 best teams in NCAA Women's basketball (right now). What I can't believe is that it was Brink who took the shot in the final seconds, after having a nothing burger game. Stanford had much better choices. Won't surprise me if these 2 teams meet again this season!

 

[jumpstart]

Henderson the clear player of the game.

Congrats to Stanford on outrebounding SC. That didn’t happen in a single game last year and I wouldn’t have thought it would happen this year. If you’re going to take out the Gamecocks, you’ve got to come even on the boards or find a way to get ahead.

Prechtel is such an enigma to me — not in terms of talent and performance, but in terms of usage. What is the thought process behind her only playing 21 minutes? Those five blocks all seemed to come early. She’s an impactful player (isn’t that right, Louisville?)

Boston didn’t have a great shooting game and probably never will against Stanford. Tara dreams and schemes to stop her.

These teams sure seem to stuff the daylights out of each other. The last two meetups have had about 40 blocks, no exaggeration.

I honestly felt at halftime like SC was going to get back in the game, but I’m admittedly shocked that Stanford gave up an 18-point lead.

SC got way more out of Saxton (10/7/2) than they did in the Final Four (0/1/0) and that may have been the difference.

The fact that Henderson isn’t more broadly discussed as a potential top 6 or 7 pick in the W draft at this point is ridiculous to me.

All in all, much respect to a tough Stanford team who gave us everything we could handle and is very much a threat to repeat (not that anyone should have been doubting that).

South Carolina’s offense needs a lot of work. They might go undefeated from here but I’m apprehensive about their odds of taking out everyone in the NCAAT gauntlet without improved efficiency on that end of the floor.

She is mentioned in the draft... WNBA mock draft: Who will the Washington Mystics select at No. 1 overall?

 

[JstVisiting]

The last team to whup 'em was Oregon's super team in 2019-2020

It’s a shame that team was denied the opportunity to play for a national title game appearance.

 

[bbsamjj]

@TheFarmFan when is Haley Jones going to realize that no one can guard her? Or remember how she played in last year's Final Four?

 

[cancontent]

Your not going to beat SC at home no matter how well you play..Maryland found that out..that being said Stanford is a good team but isn't going anywhere without a point guard..it showed tonite how much they miss K.Williams from last year..and Brinks..sorry she may be talented but is a foul machine who can't stay on the floor..she was nonexistent against Tenn and terrible tonight
On the other hand Amihere except when she was running the point for a few games has anyone ever seen her pass the ball..go back to last year the same thing.If she gets the ball within 10' of the basket she is going to drive to the rim even if it's 1 on 4
D Henderson was great tonite.That's what worried me when they played Uconn..I couldn't see her shooting 5/17 with 8 to's like she did last year..she has really improved and is the 2nd best player on SC.

When did Maryland play Stanford at home this season or are you referring to another game between the teams? I thought their game this season was in the Bahamas during Thanksgiving.

 

[GoCardinal]

It is fair to comment on the lack of foul calls on Boston, and the hacking in general her team does. Stanford should have won this game, but we have conference play to work on the PG situation. We'll be fine.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

it's funny how fans of the most physical teams that get away with the most dirt can't really see it and demand touch fouls on the other end.

The passion of sports.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Well when the ESPN front page headline is "S. Carolina wins 1-2 showdown with record rally," and just about everyone I've spoken too thought the reffing was fairly favorable to S. Carolina, you'll have to excuse me if my grapes were a bit sour minutes after the game ended.

All credit to S Carolina, and Stanford needs to deal with reffing that mildly favors the home team when they play away, because that's a common phenomenon in sports - it's well documented, not some sort of conspiracy on my part. Nor is it why Stanford lost.

Working on turning those sour grapes into wine, but give me another day.

The announcers flavor that a good bit by what they point out.

For instance Lexie Hull pushing Beal out of bounds wouldn't necessarily have been remarkable without the announcer making a fuss about it. I thought what else is new, but then yeah, that was a really bad no call.

 

[visitingcock]

It’s a shame that team Oregon and South Carolina were denied the opportunity to play for a national title game appearance.

FIFY

 

[SCspur]

Well when the ESPN front page headline is "S. Carolina wins 1-2 showdown with record rally," and just about everyone I've spoken too thought the reffing was fairly favorable to S. Carolina, you'll have to excuse me if my grapes were a bit sour minutes after the game ended.

All credit to S Carolina, and Stanford needs to deal with reffing that mildly favors the home team when they play away, because that's a common phenomenon in sports - it's well documented, not some sort of conspiracy on my part. Nor is it why Stanford lost.

Working on turning those sour grapes into wine, but give me another day.

I mean can it be totally blamed on the refs though? Stanford relinquished a 18 point lead. Also watching the game in person you’re able to see much more than that of a TV screen. I advise you to watch some of your Stanford players much more closely, especially when they don’t have the ball. Lexie was giving shoves to anyone guarding her on the dribble handoffs. Fran set a screen so illegal I thought Brea would need medical attention afterwards. The list goes on and on. Tons of missed calls both ways so I don’t think the refs should be blamed. Stanford lost this game with their inability to keep control of the ball it’s that simple. When they’re clicking it’s the best offense you would be able to see! I really admired what they did in the first half! Great game to y’all and hopefully we can do it again in Three months!

 

[jchusky]

Well when the ESPN front page headline is "S. Carolina wins 1-2 showdown with record rally," and just about everyone I've spoken too thought the reffing was fairly favorable to S. Carolina, you'll have to excuse me if my grapes were a bit sour minutes after the game ended.

All credit to S Carolina, and Stanford needs to deal with reffing that mildly favors the home team when they play away, because that's a common phenomenon in sports - it's well documented, not some sort of conspiracy on my part. Nor is it why Stanford lost.

Working on turning those sour grapes into wine, but give me another day.

you're one of my faves in these forums and appreciate the passion, but a lot of people are bringing up Brink kicked ball from last season when they Stanford refs bring up the reffing in this game.

 

[visitingcock]

No team has ever won a game by 6 points or less without help from the refs.

 

[JstVisiting]

FIFY

I don’t think you got it. South Carolina lost more than a title game appearance.

 

[nwhoopfan]

This is the last I'll say on the subject. South Carolina wasn't called for a single foul until more than 17 minutes into the game. Even the most dedicated South Carolina fans have to admit that is an anomaly that defies any kind of explanation. Fouls sorta evened out eventually...but not really.

 

[visitingcock]

This is the last I'll say on the subject. South Carolina wasn't called for a single foul until more than 17 minutes into the game. Even the most dedicated South Carolina fans have to admit that is an anomaly that defies any kind of explanation. Fouls sorta evened out eventually...but not really.

And at the end of that 17 minute lapse Stanford was killing SCar. Once fouls started being called on Scar, they started coming back.

A logical case could be made that Scar played passively and didn’t foul during the 17 minute stretch when they were getting killed. Then they started playing aggressively on defense ( and fouling) which resulted in the comeback

 

[dabears17]

Interesting play at end of 2nd quarter. 5.1 seconds left, South Carolina rolls the ball down the court on inbounds. South Carolina doesn't touch the ball until after it crosses half court, and pretty close to 5 seconds. Ref's blow the whistle and let South Carolina inbound the ball again. Anyone know what that call was?

 

[bballnut90]

Refs pretty clearly favored SC this game even if it wasn't intentional. Boston is a great player and is the runaway choice for POY early on but got away with a lot this game while Brink had tough calls go against her. Last year in the Final Four it was Stanford getting the calls down the stretch and SC had a case to be upset.

Did the refs impact the result of the game? Possibly, but probably not IMO. SC looked like the much tougher team down the stretch and Boston/Henderson were the best players on the court last night. At the end of the day it's another win stacked onto SC's sterling resume and I dont think this loss will hurt Stanford at all come tournament time. Both teams are in the same spot they were before, but both have clear areas they need to work on. I think they're probably the 2 best teams in the country right now but a lot can (and will) change between now and March.

 

[jpp13]

Interesting play at end of 2nd quarter. 5.1 seconds left, South Carolina rolls the ball down the court on inbounds. South Carolina doesn't touch the ball until after it crosses half court, and pretty close to 5 seconds. Ref's blow the whistle and let South Carolina inbound the ball again. Anyone know what that call was?

The clock shouldn't start until its touched i believe it started too early.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Interesting play at end of 2nd quarter. 5.1 seconds left, South Carolina rolls the ball down the court on inbounds. South Carolina doesn't touch the ball until after it crosses half court, and pretty close to 5 seconds. Ref's blow the whistle and let South Carolina inbound the ball again. Anyone know what that call was?

The clock started early.