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Point Guard Situaton

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Milo65 said:
How do you go into the season with Hass and a Freshman for point options. HOW?
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We didn’t, we had the kid from St. Marys from the portal who Dan Hurley wanted above every other point guard in the portal. This season is on Dan Hurley. Where was Stewart in the second half, AK is almost not playable. He’s a ghost out there, nonexistent on offense and defense. He’s invisible. Can’t shoot anymore, can’t defend me and I’m 73, he just floats around not having any positive impact on the game. Last year he was the 5th concern for opposing defenses so he got the worst front court defender now they are playing attention to him and he’s been exposed as slow, non athletic, slow release on his shot, slow on his drives to the rim and can’t guard anyone. He’s invisible on offense and defense but he played the entire second half and I don’t think Stewart sniffed the court. Even when things were starting to get away late second half AK was nonexistent. It’s like playing 4 on 5 he contributed nothing and he’s supposed to be a team leader. Great guy nice person but a major disappointment for the sole returning starter from last season.
 
Probably not all that productive an input, but Pettiford at Auburn is killing it. Having a Bazz-like freshman year, and he’s too small to go pro very soon. That was Hurley’s option A at point guard - he’d definitely help this team
 
UCFan1513 said:
Probably not all that productive an input, but Pettiford at Auburn is killing it. Having a Bazz-like freshman year, and he’s too small to go pro very soon. That was Hurley’s option A at point guard - he’d definitely help this team
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Hurley should 100% be bringing this around to the school/boosters. We can not be getting outbid on his number 1 option at any point.
 
Let’s be honest when you’re real good 6th man is logging 30 minutes plus this was never a good situation. Add an injury to that’s it’s downright criminal. Not taking away the effort that HD has put in but he’s just not championship PG material unless it’s off the bench. Bad situation that won’t get better without some portal luck!

We were so fortunate to have Newton for 2 years!
 
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UConniki said:
We didn’t, we had the kid from St. Marys from the portal who Dan Hurley wanted above every other point guard in the portal. This season is on Dan Hurley. Where was Stewart in the second half, AK is almost not playable. He’s a ghost out there, nonexistent on offense and defense. He’s invisible. Can’t shoot anymore, can’t defend me and I’m 73, he just floats around not having any positive impact on the game. Last year he was the 5th concern for opposing defenses so he got the worst front court defender now they are playing attention to him and he’s been exposed as slow, non athletic, slow release on his shot, slow on his drives to the rim and can’t guard anyone. He’s invisible on offense and defense but he played the entire second half and I don’t think Stewart sniffed the court. Even when things were starting to get away late second half AK was nonexistent. It’s like playing 4 on 5 he contributed nothing and he’s supposed to be a team leader. Great guy nice person but a major disappointment for the sole returning starter from last season.
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Well said
 
Agent0 said:
I wonder if they try Liam at pg just try an spell a couple minutes for Hass
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That's my thoughts as well. Hass needs reduced minutes for sure. Liam at the point would actually improve the effectiveness of the offense because with a shorter point guard that can't throw over taller defenders nor drive the ball into the paint, the offense gets clogged and forced to heave prayers at the end of shot clocks.

I'd do long stretches of Liam, Solo, Stewie, Alex, and Tarris. Drive the ball more with Liam to get buckets/draw fouls and get more open looks for Solo, Stewie, and Alex with better ball movement via better court vision.
 
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Milo65 said:
How do you go into the season with Hass and a Freshman for point options. HOW?
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I think they thought mahaney could play point. The start of the season hass wasn’t starting
 
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Let’s not forget that numerous top flight programs including Duke and UK wanted Mahaney as well. So this wasn’t some huge miss by our staff. I remind myself that he’s only had two years of lower level ball under his belt as opposed to a Cam who came here in year 5 after a year in big boy ball. And our staff was at least initially asking him to do more than what Cam was asked. His frame and athleticism, compared to a Newton… he may always have some degree of limitations unless he does nothing but work his ass off this postseason to become as heady a player as possible. It’s just not going to be a microwaved process like a lot of people here seemed to think it would. Would be interesting if Hurley ever shares his thoughts on how the PG position turned out this season

But that is only one of several issues with how the season has panned out. This was not guaranteed to be a great season for us. I’m glad I never got myself too heavily invested in this season
 
Rocktheworld said:
Let’s not forget that numerous top flight programs including Duke and UK wanted Mahaney as well. So this wasn’t some huge miss by our staff. I remind myself that he’s only had two years of lower level ball under his belt as opposed to a Cam who came here in year 5 after a year in big boy ball. And our staff was at least initially asking him to do more than what Cam was asked. His frame and athleticism, compared to a Newton… he may always have some degree of limitations unless he does nothing but work his ass off this postseason to become as heady a player as possible. It’s just not going to be a microwaved process like a lot of people here seemed to think it would. Would be interesting if Hurley ever shares his thoughts on how the PG position turned out this season

But that is only one of several issues with how the season has panned out. This was not guaranteed to be a great season for us. I’m glad I never got myself too heavily invested in this season
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Was Timberlake a big miss for Kansas last season?
 
Rocktheworld said:
Let’s not forget that numerous top flight programs including Duke and UK wanted Mahaney as well. So this wasn’t some huge miss by our staff.
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I agree with all that you wrote. AM would have been a miss for all of the schools you listed, but he is on our roster. Dan Hurley had to take him out yesterday and keep him on the bench. He crossed half court yesterday and froze. He has been doing that all year. He was never a point guard at this level of competitiIon. Add in St Johns Defense (#4) and he is not able to compete at the level we require. Gotta give Hass credit for gutting out the minutes but he needs 2 weeks down time to get healthy.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I agree with all that you wrote. AM would have been a miss for all of the schools you listed, but he is on our roster. Dan Hurley had to take him out yesterday and keep him on the bench. He crossed half court yesterday and froze. He has been doing that all year. He was never a point guard at this level of competitiIon. Add in St Johns Defense (#4) and he is not able to compete at the level we require. Gotta give Hass credit for gutting out the minutes but he needs 2 weeks down time to get healthy.
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Agree on Mahaney I mean I know he’s a good player but he’s not a PG in this league it would seem so this is a tough one for the staff. Thing is Diarra has done a nice job but he’s not the answer against this kind of defense either. Just a rough year at that spot need a portal hit in a huge way!
 
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AllHusky said:
Liam and Nowell have missed lots of time/games in order to heal. Why can’t Hass miss a couple of games to rest up and get ready. Just because the injury doesn’t incapacitate you, doesn’t mean you should play through it.
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And who plays the point? You have any eligibility left?
 
Fishy said:
It cannot be salvaged at this point unless somehow Mahaney becomes Cam Spencer. All the chips were pushed in on AM becoming the second point guard but he’s just not it.

Whenever Nowell gets back, I hope he gets the lion’s share of the minutes because next year is going to be a similar slog if he’s not up to the job on day one. And have Solo carry a basketball with him everywhere he goes this summer.
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I think there has to be a candid conversation w AM at the end of this year. “Son, we are not taking your scholarship away but we think you are best suited to play eisewhere”
 
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