Plus/minus stats

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Can someone share season-to-date individual plus/minus stats? Couldn't find 'em via the Google thing... TIA!

 

[bendm]

there's better stats out there. not sure +/- has any value.

 

[nadavtheman]

there's better stats out there. not sure +/- has any value.

With all due respect I totally disagree and could argue that +/- is perhaps THE most important statistic. The game is about the score. I want guys that help the good guys outscore their opponents when they are on the floor.

 

[BoukofJames]

With all due respect I totally disagree and could argue that +/- is perhaps THE most important statistic. The game is about the score. I want guys that help the good guys outscore their opponents when they are on the floor.

My opinion - standard +/- totally eschews context. There are four other players on the court that are having an impact on that metric. Does Kevon Looney having a +22 mean anything if he misses all his field goal attempts and doesn’t grab any rebounds, but Steph Curry hits 11 three-pointers that game? To me it’s like the RBI in baseball. Relies way too much on the results of other players to be a meaningful representation of a single player’s impact on the game.

 

[bendm]

With all due respect I totally disagree and could argue that +/- is perhaps THE most important statistic. The game is about the score. I want guys that help the good guys outscore their opponents when they are on the floor.

A treatise on plus/minus | The kenpom.com blog

 

[ToolzieFan]

A treatise on plus/minus | The kenpom.com blog

That was great. Thanks for sharing. I’ve always been skeptical of +/-, so it was good to see an objective look at it. Respect randomness.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

I asked because it was in the box score (on the Score app) for the Seton Hall game and it made me pause when I looked at the UConn plus/minuses. Adams was a -11, Carlton was a -10, Cole a -7. The only positives were Jackson at +7 and Gaffney at +4.

I'm a believer in longitudinal +/- as a semi-important stat - certainly over an 80-game season in the NBA. Not to compare specific players on different teams, but rather within a team's roster.

That said, for at least this one game it seemed accurate as to how the game played out on the floor for 40 minutes.

 

[Tenspro2002]

My opinion - standard +/- totally eschews context. There are four other players on the court that are having an impact on that metric. Does Kevon Looney having a +22 mean anything if he misses all his field goal attempts and doesn’t grab any rebounds, but Steph Curry hits 11 three-pointers that game? To me it’s like the RBI in baseball. Relies way too much on the results of other players to be a meaningful representation of a single player’s impact on the game.

I would expect +/- to correlate with player quality, but with a large standard deviation. There are other, better metrics with a smaller variance.

 

[uconngb]

I asked because it was in the box score (on the Score app) for the Seton Hall game and it made me pause when I looked at the UConn plus/minuses. Adams was a -11, Carlton was a -10, Cole a -7. The only positives were Jackson at +7 and Gaffney at +4.

I'm a believer in longitudinal +/- as a semi-important stat - certainly over an 80-game season in the NBA. Not to compare specific players on different teams, but rather within a team's roster.

That said, for at least this one game it seemed accurate as to how the game played out on the floor for 40 minutes.

I rest my case

 

[Get a Job]

I rest my case

According to Pomeroy, it makes no sense to rest one's case based on single-game +/-. But hopefully you're just being cheeky.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I would expect +/- to correlate with player quality, but with a large standard deviation. There are other, better metrics with a smaller variance.

Yes. I would like to see our stats. Polley for example, I expect to be a huge plus in maybe two games, neutral in one, and significantly minus in all the rest.

 

[navery12]

Plus minus isn't kept cumulatively anywhere for college, but game by game is here

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