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Can someone share season-to-date individual plus/minus stats? Couldn't find 'em via the Google thing... TIA!
 
there's better stats out there. not sure +/- has any value.
 
bendm said:
there's better stats out there. not sure +/- has any value.
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With all due respect I totally disagree and could argue that +/- is perhaps THE most important statistic. The game is about the score. I want guys that help the good guys outscore their opponents when they are on the floor.
 
nadavtheman said:
With all due respect I totally disagree and could argue that +/- is perhaps THE most important statistic. The game is about the score. I want guys that help the good guys outscore their opponents when they are on the floor.
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My opinion - standard +/- totally eschews context. There are four other players on the court that are having an impact on that metric. Does Kevon Looney having a +22 mean anything if he misses all his field goal attempts and doesn’t grab any rebounds, but Steph Curry hits 11 three-pointers that game? To me it’s like the RBI in baseball. Relies way too much on the results of other players to be a meaningful representation of a single player’s impact on the game.
 
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I asked because it was in the box score (on the Score app) for the Seton Hall game and it made me pause when I looked at the UConn plus/minuses. Adams was a -11, Carlton was a -10, Cole a -7. The only positives were Jackson at +7 and Gaffney at +4.

I'm a believer in longitudinal +/- as a semi-important stat - certainly over an 80-game season in the NBA. Not to compare specific players on different teams, but rather within a team's roster.

That said, for at least this one game it seemed accurate as to how the game played out on the floor for 40 minutes.
 
BoukofJames said:
My opinion - standard +/- totally eschews context. There are four other players on the court that are having an impact on that metric. Does Kevon Looney having a +22 mean anything if he misses all his field goal attempts and doesn’t grab any rebounds, but Steph Curry hits 11 three-pointers that game? To me it’s like the RBI in baseball. Relies way too much on the results of other players to be a meaningful representation of a single player’s impact on the game.
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I would expect +/- to correlate with player quality, but with a large standard deviation. There are other, better metrics with a smaller variance.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I asked because it was in the box score (on the Score app) for the Seton Hall game and it made me pause when I looked at the UConn plus/minuses. Adams was a -11, Carlton was a -10, Cole a -7. The only positives were Jackson at +7 and Gaffney at +4.

I'm a believer in longitudinal +/- as a semi-important stat - certainly over an 80-game season in the NBA. Not to compare specific players on different teams, but rather within a team's roster.

That said, for at least this one game it seemed accurate as to how the game played out on the floor for 40 minutes.
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I rest my case
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I would expect +/- to correlate with player quality, but with a large standard deviation. There are other, better metrics with a smaller variance.
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Yes. I would like to see our stats. Polley for example, I expect to be a huge plus in maybe two games, neutral in one, and significantly minus in all the rest.
 
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