Peter King MMQB on BC/Rutgers/UConn

[NYUConn]

Spot on ....NJ alone DWARF's the Boston Demo.9M to what?? under 1M easy? NYC nonwithstanding...

Also doesn't hurt that RU is a state flagship University and BC is a small, private liberal arts school in a City that has 2-3 other rabid fan bases (where they also happen to be the most hated).

 

[huskypantz]

Spot on ....NJ alone DWARF's the Boston Demo.9M to what?? under 1M easy? NYC nonwithstanding...

Boston metro is 4.7 million, #10 in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

 

[NickyNewark]

I never said it was anything more than anecdotal.

Maybe you prefer the Facebook data published in the NY Times that shows Penn State is the most popular team in Hoboken and Jersey City and for most of Bergen County?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html#10,40.958,-74.130

Come on .....if you checked out that map and can't see how bogus it is....I don't know what to tell you...FB hits? Really?

 

[NickyNewark]

Boston metro is 4.7 million, #10 in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

Well by that....add Philly and GAreater NYC/LI/FF Cty to RU...

 

[NYUConn]

Come on .....if you checked out that map and can't see how bogus it is....I don't know what to tell you...FB hits? Really?

How is it bogus? It measures favorite teams as liked by Facebook users geotagged by a given zip code. Given that these days nearly everyone in their grandparents are on Facebook, I'd say it's a pretty damn good reflection of how people think.

It's pretty scientific actually and absent data from surveying or polling it's about as accurate you are going to get.

 

[NickyNewark]

Boston metro is 4.7 million, #10 in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

The whole State of Mass only has 7.3....are you saying their all around Chestnut Hill?

 

[NickyNewark]

How is it bogus? It measures favorite teams as liked by Facebook users geotagged by a given zip code. Given that these days nearly everyone in their grandparents are on Facebook, I'd say it's a pretty damn good reflection of how people think.

It's pretty scientific actually and absent data from surveying or polling it's about as accurate you are going to get.

That map has more holes than swiss cheese......forget RU.....LOOK AROUND AT THE full country and tell me its accurate? Do you really think even Cuse fanbase is that powerful in FB?

 

[huskypantz]

The whole State of Mass only has 7.3....are you saying their all around Chestnut Hill?

Have you been to mass? Yes, the majority of the population is around boston. The metro area is not my opinion, it's a fact.

 

[NickyNewark]

Boston metro is 4.7 million, #10 in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

If it was there'd be more than a 'casual' ACC presence there....basicly 4.7 is North Jersey...the most densely populated state in the country,;;;

 

[NickyNewark]

Have you been to mass? Yes, the majority of the population is around boston. The metro area is not my opinion, it's a fact.

Now match THIS to NYC/NJ......C'MON......my sister lives in Exeter,NH....

 

[NickyNewark]

Boston metro is 4.7 million, #10 in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

This map is basically NE......Impressive and why you're getting a P5 invite but still dwarfed by the NYC/NJ/Philly 1 and 6 demo...

 

[NYUConn]

That map has more holes than swiss cheese.forget RU.....LOOK AROUND AT THE full country and tell me its accurate? Do you really think even Cuse fanbase is that powerful in FB?

Are you joking? Do I think Syracuse dominates upstate NY as the most popular football program and runs about 5-10 percent throughout NYC?

Yes, obviously I do. That makes total sense. Spend any time in NYC and tell me you don't run into a ton of Cuse grads, by no means do they own NYC, but it makes sense that they average somewhere between 5-10 percent throughout the 5 boroughs.

 

[NickyNewark]

I live in the Albany area after growing up in Belleville NJ just outside Newark and lived in NYC for 23 yrs...outside hoops Cuse has gotsongool even here.... FB and influence runs this train and Cuse has been dead this century...even on their board they concede that RU has stolen NYC FROM them in FB coming from a Brklyn booster who's a regular poster there..

 

[NickyNewark]

Are you joking? Do I think Syracuse dominates upstate NY as the most popular football program and runs about 5-10 percent throughout NYC?

Yes, obviously I do. That makes total sense. Spend any time in NYC and tell me you don't run into a ton of Cuse grads, by no means do they own NYC, but it makes sense that they average somewhere between 5-10 percent throughout the 5 boroughs.

Truthfully a poll showed UConn having as many NYC fans in FB as Cuse..

 

[FDNY99]

Are you joking? Do I think Syracuse dominates upstate NY as the most popular football program and runs about 5-10 percent throughout NYC?

Yes, obviously I do. That makes total sense. Spend any time in NYC and tell me you don't run into a ton of Cuse grads, by no means do they own NYC, but it makes sense that they average somewhere between 5-10 percent throughout the 5 boroughs.

Cut fans really have a foothold out on Long Island....I would even say that the majority of their NYC DMA fan base is centered out there.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Cuse fans really have a foothold out on Long Island....I would even say that the majority of their NYC DMA fan base is centered out there.

...and it has very little to do with basketball and football. The top high school sport on Long Island is also the most successful program at Syracuse - Lacrosse, and that is not a coincidence.

FYI, I friend told me the NYC TV market breakdown like this - 20% Long Island, 10% CT (Fairfield & New Haven counties), 10% downstate NY (Westchester, Putnam, Rockland & Orange Counties), 20% North Jersey (as far south as Princeton, which is where the commuter rail network ends), and 40% NYC proper. He basically pulled commuter rail and bus statistics from the major transit lines (LIRR, Metro North Hudson & New Haven networks, NJT, and MTA subway). Doubt its exact; but, it makes sense.

 

[NYUConn]

...and it has very little to do with basketball and football. The top high school sport on Long Island is also the most successful program at Syracuse - Lacrosse, and that is not a coincidence.

FYI, I friend told me the NYC TV market breakdown like this - 20% Long Island, 10% CT (Fairfield & New Haven counties), 10% downstate NY (Westchester, Putnam, Rockland & Orange Counties), 20% North Jersey (as far south as Princeton, which is where the commuter rail network ends), and 40% NYC proper. He basically pulled commuter rail and bus statistics from the major transit lines (LIRR, Metro North Hudson & New Haven networks, NJT, and MTA subway). Doubt its exact; but, it makes sense.

I buy that. The other way to determine it is just go to census population figures and pull county-by-county and town-by-town throughout the NYC DMA.

 

[NickyNewark]

...and it has very little to do with basketball and football. The top high school sport on Long Island is also the most successful program at Syracuse - Lacrosse, and that is not a coincidence.

FYI, I friend told me the NYC TV market breakdown like this - 20% Long Island, 10% CT (Fairfield & New Haven counties), 10% downstate NY (Westchester, Putnam, Rockland & Orange Counties), 20% North Jersey (as far south as Princeton, which is where the commuter rail network ends), and 40% NYC proper. He basically pulled commuter rail and bus statistics from the major transit lines (LIRR, Metro North Hudson & New Haven networks, NJT, and MTA subway). Doubt its exact; but, it makes sense.

Chris Laviano was targeted by SU and wouldn't even give them a visit.....Ex HC KF is from LI/Queens put Nassau/Queens/Bklyn on RU's radar....after Marrone SU couldn't buy a recruit there unless no one wanted them...

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Chris Laviano was targeted by SU and wouldn't even give them a visit.....Ex HC KF is from LI/Queens put Nassau/Queens/Bklyn on RU's radar....after Marrone SU couldn't buy a recruit there unless no one wanted them...

No argument about Syracuse football out on Long Island Long Island is a hotbed for lacrosse, probably second only to Maryland. As long as Syracuse continues to be a power in that sport (10 total titles, last in 2009), Syracuse will continue to have a strong brand there. On a smaller scale, I see more that the usual number of Syracuse fans when I go to the Office to catch a sports game in Ridgewood, which is the public lax power in Bergen County.

 

[NickyNewark]

...and it has very little to do with basketball and football. The top high school sport on Long Island is also the most successful program at Syracuse - Lacrosse, and that is not a coincidence.

FYI, I friend told me the NYC TV market breakdown like this - 20% Long Island, 10% CT (Fairfield & New Haven counties), 10% downstate NY (Westchester, Putnam, Rockland & Orange Counties), 20% North Jersey (as far south as Princeton, which is where the commuter rail network ends), and 40% NYC proper. He basically pulled commuter rail and bus statistics from the major transit lines (LIRR, Metro North Hudson & New Haven networks, NJT, and MTA subway). Doubt its exact; but, it makes sense.

Don't know how that translates to FB.....Cuse has NOT 1 player from LI....at least on scholly and Canada is Mohawk Central as far as Lax.....if LI is a hotbed of 1.3 M north Jersey has 2/3 rds of NJ's 9M pop...NY/NJ are inseparable....esp up north...Port of NY/NJ Port Authority........the pine barrens are just that...'barren'' as far as FF county.....your giving them 10 percent of NYC/NJ demo......very doubtful.....that would be all Connecticut....

 

[EastCoast2]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html#10,40.958,-74.130

Awesome link thanks for sharing

 

[CallMeBruce]

No argument about Syracuse football out on Long Island Long Island is a hotbed for lacrosse, probably second only to Maryland. As long as Syracuse continues to be a power in that sport (10 total titles, last in 2009), Syracuse will continue to have a strong brand there. On a smaller scale, I see more that the usual number of Syracuse fans when I go to the Office to catch a sports game in Ridgewood, which is the public lax power in Bergen County.

Syracuse is right in the middle of one of the best parts of the country for lacrosse. They bring in a lot of LI kids, but they bring in a lot of locals, too.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Syracuse is right in the middle of one of the best parts of the country for lacrosse. They bring in a lot of LI kids, but they bring in a lot of locals, too.

I have a friend who is a lax coach (I played soccer with him) and he says the best 5 areas for HS lacrosse recruiting are: 1) Suburban Maryland between Baltimore & DC, 2) Long Island in NY, 3) Upstate NY, 4) Fairfield (CT) & Westchster (NY) Counties, and 5) North Jersey. After those 'leaders' its (not in any order): Metro Boston, the rest of CT, Suburban Philly, the VA side of the DC metro, the RDU area of NC, metro Detroit and then the Denver area plus the Provence of Ontario.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I have a friend who is a lax coach (I played soccer with him) and he says the best 5 areas for HS lacrosse recruiting are: 1) Suburban Maryland between Baltimore & DC, 2) Long Island in NY, 3) Upstate NY, 4) Fairfield (CT) & Westchster (NY) Counties, and 5) North Jersey. After those 'leaders' its (not in any order): Metro Boston, the rest of CT, Suburban Philly, the VA side of the DC metro, the RDU area of NC, metro Detroit and then the Denver area plus the Provence of Ontario.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly right. I'd put a little bit of distance between the top 3 and #4, and a fair amount between #4 and #5. The top 3 are basically interchangeable for me. Just tons of talent coming out of all three areas every year.

 

[NickyNewark]

Cuse has always been a LAX school.....Jim Brown was a better Lacrosse player than FB....