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metsfan2323 said:
To take it a step further do they have an active infection or are they testing positive for antibodies, meaning they had it in the past but have recovered? If they don't have a fever I would think its the latter.
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If they are quarantining players/staff for 14 days and then retesting - it’s likely not due to positive antibody tests.
 


I looked for a player interview, Donovan Mitchell popped up. This is from back in March. He tells Robin Roberts he tested positive but has no symptoms and feels like he could play tomorrow. How common is this? The worst part of his experience was the damn test which he says was very painful.
 
huskymedic said:
If they are quarantining players/staff for 14 days and then retesting - it’s likely not due to positive antibody tests.
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One would think this is the case, but how good are the tests and can the tests themselves tell the difference? The public has a right to be skeptical about these tests if there are no symptoms.
 
metsfan2323 said:
One would think this is the case, but how good are the tests and can the tests themselves tell the difference? The public has a right to be skeptical if there are no symptoms.
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Two different tests... the most accurate antibody test is a blood sample. Most accurate COVID test is a deep nasal swab (and it’s not that painful from personal experience, uncomfortable but not “very painful”).
 
(CNN)Some young people in Alabama are throwing Covid-19 parties, a disturbing competition where people who have coronavirus attend and the first person to get infected receives a payout, local officials said.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
The parties are being held in Tuscaloosa, and infected people are urged to attend so others can intentionally contract the virus, City Council member Sonya McKinstry told CNN. She said she heard about the trend from fire officials.
 
huskymedic said:
Two different tests... the most accurate antibody test is a blood sample. Most accurate COVID test is a deep nasal swab (and it’s not that painful from personal experience, uncomfortable but not “very painful”).
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Just curious, why were you tested? Did you have it and what was your experience?
 
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My wife and I were both tested....Had to sign the Health Department's.."Person Under Investigation" form....restricted to the house with no visiters until the test results came back as "negative".

Why? Because we were tracked to a friend..we had dinner at his house. He became ill and tested positive.
 
billybud said:
My wife and I were both tested....Had to sign the Health Department's.."Person Under Investigation" form....restricted to the house with no visiters until the test results came back as "negative".

Why? Because we were tracked to a friend..we had dinner at his house. He became ill and tested positive.
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Glad to hear you came back negative
 
I get tested again......for a procedure coming up in the hospital...I can not go in if positive.

Procedure here...you drive under the awning in the hospital parking lot...they test you...call you at home.
 
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Lucelab113 said:
Do they have symptoms? Any hospitalizations? Or does the information end as it usually does, with an alarmist headline or tweet?
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Seriously? The way you stop the spread is by stopping activities that cause it to spread and quarantining infected people and people they came in contact with...
 
freescooter said:
I am of the opinion that there will be no college athletics until at least January. Unlike Europe the US wasted time and failed to follow proper protocols in so many places that this virus is close to being out of control. Unlike places that took it seriously many parts of the country did not. It is already having an impact. USF has told its season ticket holders not to plan on traveling to Austin for the Texas game for example. Connecticut, and whatever you think of Lamont you need to give him high marks for this, is in solid shape But Houston, LA, Florida, Arizona and any number of others are not and quite honestly might well not be for some time Since they seem unwilling to take the steps that succeeded in New York, Connecticut, the EU.
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Europe has had a lot more deaths than the United States and it's per capita deaths is 10 times worse. Spain and Italy were disaster areas, even the UK got slammed, so I fail to see where Europe managed this pandemic better than the United States.
 
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I’m in Westchester. COVID is all around me. I tested positive on 3/29. Quarantined. No symptoms

Tested Antibodies two weeks ago - Negative

That’s weird. So my summary - who knows. The antibodies test has massive problems. Some are 93-95%+. Some aren’t. I’ve been told this thing is moving into another strain within 2 months. Unknowns.

There’s nothing wrong with 100,000,000 tests. And many times.
 
Pudge said:
I’m in Westchester. COVID is all around me. I tested positive on 3/29. Quarantined. No symptoms

Tested Antibodies two weeks ago - Negative

That’s weird. So my summary - who knows. The antibodies test has massive problems. Some are 93-95%+. Some aren’t. I’ve been told this thing is moving into another strain within 2 months. Unknowns.

There’s nothing wrong with 100,000,000 tests. And many times.
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So you tested positive with no symptoms and have no antibodies. It seriously begs the question was the first test was a false positive.
 
From the CDC website

“Some people may take even longer to develop antibodies, and some people who are infected may not ever develop antibodies.“
 
metsfan2323 said:
So you tested positive with no symptoms and have no antibodies. It seriously begs the question was the first test was a false positive.
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The virus tests are a lot more accurate than the antibody tests.
 
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I believe the fastest a successful vaccine has ever been created was just over five years. Admittedly, this disease is seeing more concentrated global effort and shared research than most. That said, I doubt a real vaccine can be created in less than three years. And that would be a near scientific miracle.
 
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We have never developed a vaccine that works for the HIV virus....nor Ebola, nor MERS...herpes, malaria..etc.
 
billybud said:
We have never developed a vaccine that works for the HIV virus....nor Ebola, nor MERS...herpes, malaria..etc.
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Malaria is not a virus, and btw it kills between half a million and one million people every year.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Europe has had a lot more deaths than the United States and it's per capita deaths is 10 times worse. Spain and Italy were disaster areas, even the UK got slammed, so I fail to see where Europe managed this pandemic better than the United States.
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Talk to Arizona or Florida or Texas. Arizona hospitals we’re almost at capacity and are now authorized to decide who gets a ventilator based on such factors as life expectancy. The docs there call the people who make those calls the Death Panel. The EU get it under control and has kept it there. Economic activity is returning. New Zealand has live sports with full stadiums. There is a reason why Americans are banned from traveling to Europe. The US is adding 40,000 cases per day And increasing All of the EU around 5000 and stable or declining. Don’t include the U.K. and cases are declining. AND JUST FYI. we have more cases and more deaths now. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan when the other guy gets it the flu. When you get it it’s a pandemic. The real killer So to speak, Is after it hit the northeast and northwest we knew what to do to stop the spread. But these southern and western governors wanted to show they were so tough. Not like those wimpy northeaster elites. And our nation leaders couldn’t see past the stock market. And now Arizona has Death panels.
 
freescooter said:
Talk to Arizona or Florida or Texas. Arizona hospitals we’re almost at capacity and are now authorized to decide who gets a ventilator based on such factors as life expectancy. The docs there call the people who make those calls the Death Panel. The EU get it under control and has kept it there. Economic activity is returning. New Zealand has live sports with full stadiums. There is a reason why Americans are banned from traveling to Europe. The US is adding 40,000 cases per day And increasing All of the EU around 5000 and stable or declining. Don’t include the U.K. and cases are declining. AND JUST FYI. we have more cases and more deaths now. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan when the other guy gets it the flu. When you get it it’s a pandemic. The real killer So to speak, Is after it hit the northeast and northwest we knew what to do to stop the spread. But these southern and western governors wanted to show they were so tough. Not like those wimpy northeaster elites. And our nation leaders couldn’t see past the stock market. And now Arizona has Death panels.
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I thought the surge in cases in Texas, Florida and Arizona was mostly among young people not adhering to safe distancing, no masks or gloves, bar hopping, beach going, etc. and I also heard it reported that despite this young people surge the death rate from Covid 19 is still on the decline nationally. I mean, how many people in those three states died from Covid 19 yesterday? My neighbors kid had Covid 19, he had the usual flu symptoms for 4 days and now he's fine.

Your sky is falling posts are annoying. Go do something constructive like 2 hours on your Peloton.
 
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MilliniumPrince said:
I believe the fastest a successful vaccine has ever been created was just over five years. Admittedly, this disease is seeing more concentrated global effort and shared research than most. That said, I doubt a real vaccine can be created in less than three years. And that would be a near scientific miracle.
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Thats the ‘old’ process. There are Phase 3 trials starting. It will not take 3 years. Either the Vaccines in test will be viable or they will not, but we will know in a much shorter time span.
 
We failed

Wuhan was a disaster. Chengdu & Chongqing, hours to the west in Sichuan province, had hundreds of cases. Cities of 12-16 million.

NYC gruesomeness should have put fear into all states on the continent; instead we got this bluster of nonsense. Lockdown worked in China & Europe. These spikes & the deaths that result are entirely on the imprudent example of those political leaders who refused to even seek a balance of public health to livelihoods. One death is too much ... you’re gonna get another 100,000. That’s not a Poster trying to depress us ... that’s the science telling us the coming months.
 
huskymedic said:
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I can’t tell from that graph if that represents deaths, but I think it’s likely as most of the daily numbers are under 100. Any idea if the white line is a 3 or 7 day moving average? I’ll take a look at the Tableau site.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I can’t tell from that graph if that represents deaths, but I think it’s likely as most of the daily numbers are under 100. Any idea if the white line is a 3 or 7 day moving average? I’ll take a look at the Tableau site.
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Here is the larger graph:

Tableau Public

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Also don’t forget deaths are a lagging indicator. So as the disease surges deaths follow 2 weeks later. And hospitalizations are following the same trajectory as in NY. There might be better treatments as a result experience which will reduce deaths But infections are increasing in those States and sending people to the hospital. Not a good thing. And could have been avoided.
 


>>“To me, this becomes, ‘Do you think [playing in the spring] is doable?’ and I personally do,” Riley said, via OUDaily.com. “I do believe you can adjust your schedule. You’d have to adjust your schedule to give players plenty of time off to get their bodies back. . . . But I think the people who say it’s not doable, in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it. I just think it would be unwise to take any potential option off the table right now, and I think it would be very difficult to say that the spring’s not a potential option. I, for one, think it’s very doable.”<<
 
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