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Not a big fan of the dunk .EXCEPT the alley oop. Love the teamwork and timing.
Patterson ready to dunk
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In general, I'm not either. Mostly it seems like a vanity project in the men's game -- often too much irrelevant juggling to make it seem fancier than it really is. In the women's game, it seems to have another dimension for the players, like a sort of demand to be recognized. They see it as a hurdle, a mountain to climb, so to speak, and I can only respect that. If Ayanna has climbed that mountain, I'm happy to see her enjoy it.
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Ayanna knows how to grab the rim to not get hurt.
And she's going to be leaping up to & over the rim for offensive rebounds anyways.
She bound to have plenty of opportunities for put backs whether it's a full dunk or close to it.
She won't want to miss as many bunnies as she did in high school.
Geno must respect her special talent since he recruited her over such a long period of time to get her commitment.
He must want her to succeed and show case her gifts, especially when UConn needs to benefit from them.
She wants to please UConn fans more than anything and to help the team win a NC, and to become an WNBA player,
And she's going to be leaping up to & over the rim for offensive rebounds anyways.
She bound to have plenty of opportunities for put backs whether it's a full dunk or close to it.
She won't want to miss as many bunnies as she did in high school.
Geno must respect her special talent since he recruited her over such a long period of time to get her commitment.
He must want her to succeed and show case her gifts, especially when UConn needs to benefit from them.
She wants to please UConn fans more than anything and to help the team win a NC, and to become an WNBA player,
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Currently, hanging on the rim in wcbb is a technical foul, even if it is done to keep from falling on someone.
per google search:
Here's a link to the rule changes for 2023:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ncaaorg/ch...s/women/2020-21_2022-23PRWBB_RulesChanges.pdf
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I'm fairly confident saying that you may be in error.
First, I couldn't find any rule change at all regarding hanging from the rim after a dunk in the linked rule changes that you provided.
Second, when I Googled the question. "can an ncaa player hang on to the rim after a dunk", the results from more than one source indicated that it's legal when it's done to prevent injury.
And perhaps also as long as it's not for an excessive length of time which could be interpreted as taunting.
"Hanging on the rim after a dunk is not allowed unless a player is grabbing the rim to avoid injuring himself and/or land on another player.Mar 20, 2022"
March Madness: Officials call controversial technical on Illinois player for hanging on rim
It was clear that RJ Melendez's momentum forced him to hold onto the rim after his dunk, but it apparently wasn't that clear to the officials.
Can you hang on the rim after a dunk?
Players are not allowed to pull themselves up on the rim, nor are they allowed to hang on the rim after a dunk attempt, unless they are doing so to avoid injury to themselves or another player.”
See the text listed under the heading "Technical Fouls for Hanging onto the rim" on the page below:
Basketball Technical Fouls
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I'm fairly confident saying that you may be in error.
First, I couldn't find any rule change at all regarding hanging from the rim after a dunk in the linked rule changes that you provided.
Second, when I Googled the question. "can an ncaa player hang on to the rim after a dunk", the results from more than one source indicated that it's legal when it's done to prevent injury.
And perhaps also as long as it's not for an excessive length of time which could be interpreted as taunting.
"Hanging on the rim after a dunk is not allowed unless a player is grabbing the rim to avoid injuring himself and/or land on another player.Mar 20, 2022"
March Madness: Officials call controversial technical on Illinois player for hanging on rim
It was clear that RJ Melendez's momentum forced him to hold onto the rim after his dunk, but it apparently wasn't that clear to the officials.sports.yahoo.com
Can you hang on the rim after a dunk?
Players are not allowed to pull themselves up on the rim, nor are they allowed to hang on the rim after a dunk attempt, unless they are doing so to avoid injury to themselves or another player.”
See the text listed under the heading "Technical Fouls for Hanging onto the rim" on the page below:
Basketball Technical Fouls
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I hope you are right. The rule changes I posted were for women's basketball and I put them there for informational purposes. You are posting men's college rules and NBA rules. I'd love it if there is a similar rule for the women but I haven't seen one.
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The smartest thing for Ayanna to do is forget about the dunk. It's never going to be an important part of her skill set.
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i wouldn't take a side bet on this. We need to let her actually get into a game, any game, as a frosh. However, if she gets in any of the first "big time" games for any extended period, then, MAYBE, just maybe, I'd join the bet, on the side.
Carnac, and this is my opinion of HIS opinion, sees something beyond a dunker. If I had his turban or even a towel, I think if--thats an IF--she gets significant playing time, as a leaper, she could be a FACTOR this season, dunking is often for show. I don't preclude her dunking to assure a made shot.
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Typically, I'd join your view of Ayanna--i.e. move on from the Dunk. But, it is obvious to the less visual citizen that she can JUMP. Put the dunking in the dunk bucket and focus on the JUMP. I'm so far from being Geno, I'm on a tiny planet on the dark side of Saturn, but if I had a player that USED the Dunk as high percentage shot, I'd buy into it.
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Ayanna actually getting into a game? Gets into any of the 1st big time games for any extended period ? What team have you been following?
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How bout WE forget about it?
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I've forgotten about it a long time ago. What are we even talking about?
I get that dunking can be a crowd pleaser and it can be a momentum game changer but realistically it's generally on a breakaway and she struggles to do even that. Alley oops are not going to happen. Nothing against her as I could never even touch the rim folks but Visitingcock has it right. It's just too hard to be routine enough to be a weapon in her bag. SC has a new player who might well be able to dunk in a run of play ( Ashlyn Watkins ) but Ayanna needs to focus on being the best player she can be and that means working on her handle and offensive moves and shooting ability and conventional BB skills. She still has a lot of work to do to be WNBA ready. She should focus her energies on skills which can make her great. A big problem is a lot of women just do not have big enough hands to palm the ball easily, which makes it so much harder to dunk. It's never going to be routine for Ayanna. I think she can be a better player than Ashlyn Watkins, for example, as her defense and rebounding are comparable and the separator is going to need to be her offense.
I get that dunking can be a crowd pleaser and it can be a momentum game changer but realistically it's generally on a breakaway and she struggles to do even that. Alley oops are not going to happen. Nothing against her as I could never even touch the rim folks but Visitingcock has it right. It's just too hard to be routine enough to be a weapon in her bag. SC has a new player who might well be able to dunk in a run of play ( Ashlyn Watkins ) but Ayanna needs to focus on being the best player she can be and that means working on her handle and offensive moves and shooting ability and conventional BB skills. She still has a lot of work to do to be WNBA ready. She should focus her energies on skills which can make her great. A big problem is a lot of women just do not have big enough hands to palm the ball easily, which makes it so much harder to dunk. It's never going to be routine for Ayanna. I think she can be a better player than Ashlyn Watkins, for example, as her defense and rebounding are comparable and the separator is going to need to be her offense.
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I agree completely. Yes, I too expect Ayanna to be a better player because of more polished offensive skills ( though Ashlyn may be a defensive terror under Dawn’s tutelage). I want to see Ashlyn develop into a Victaria Saxon type player.
Both may get their dunks but the dunks won’t be game changing events,
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Ashlyn Watkins is so gifted physically that the sky is the limit for her in my opinion. I'm not sure which one develops better at this point. I like both of them. Which one will put in the work to be excellent? Which one will stay focused and not get involved in drugs and such? I know very little about Ashlyn but I sense that Ayanna is a very good kid who will stay focused on staying positive and getting better. I'm hopeful for both of them as they really do have the goods to be great.
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Ashlyn is a major shot blocker in the paint. God help us with all the big talent SC has.
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She’s buried on the depth chart at this point but we may see her next year after Boston , Saxon and maybe Amihere leave. I don’t see Cardosa leaving and Feagan is ahead of Ashlyn’s offensive game. Patterson has an opportunity to develop faster than Ashlyn.
Bigs in the 2024 class will be a “big” priority for us though Feagan and Ashlyn are good foundations for the future.
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Maybe I’m missing something, but one of the reasons I prefer the WBB game to the men’s is the scarcity of dunking.
Just seems to be better passing, shooting, intricate half-court play.