Patriot League Cancels Fall Sports

[oldude]

I agree, look at what all those Governors did when forcing nursing homes to take in COVID-19 positives putting them with other at risk people.

As info, subsequent antibody testing indicated that the majority of nursing home infections began when nursing home staff infected patients they were caring for. Just this past week there was a flare up at a nearby nursing home in Rensselaer Co., NY infecting 9 employees and 30 residents. This happened despite weekly testing of all personnel and no visitation allowed.

 

[MSGRET]

As info, subsequent antibody testing indicated that the majority of nursing home infections began when nursing home staff infected patients they were caring for. Just this past week there was a flare up at a nearby nursing home in Rensselaer Co., NY infecting 9 employees and 30 residents. This happened despite weekly testing of all personnel and no visitation allowed.

BS

 

[oldude]

According to Johns Hopkins, the current number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the U.S. is 3,336,154, and the number of deaths is 135,400. That means that the case fatality rate (CFR) is 4.1%.

The CDC reports that the number of people who have been infected with the coronavirus is likely to be ten times higher than the number of confirmed cases, however (WaPo, NYT). That means that 33,361,540 people have likely been infected, which implies a CFR of 0.41%.

While it is clear there are a substantial number of undiagnosed coronavirus cases in the US, it is also clear there is a substantial number of undiagnosed deaths due to the virus. Yale University did a statistical study indicating that deaths from coronavirus have been undercounted by 20-30%. Specifically, Yale’s study sites an increase in deaths due to heart attack or stroke, likely from complications due to the virus.

Even if the death rate from the coronavirus is only 0.4%, that is more than 4 times the annual death rate from the flu which averages less than 0.1%.

 

[HopJim]

This is not the flu. Emergency rooms in hospitals across the state of Florida are filling up. More people have died in New York from Covid-19 than from all other causes- combined.

This is a deadly virus, the likes of which we've never seen before. More than 60,000 people every day falling ill in the United States.

Schools are right to shut down. We've behaved miserably as a country. We opened up far too soon. And look at the outcome: Europe and virtually every other developed country is coping just fine, and moving on. We're looking every day at record infections. And the death rate is rising.

We will likely pay with closed universities and schools, cancelled sports seasons. And a weakening economy. Again.

I fully support opening schools, business, and sports if it can be done responsively. Look at NY State, 4 month, unified investment in smart processes and no deaths the past few days. Asian counties like S. Korea, that discovered Covid the same day as US, is approaching only 20-30 new cases a day. Florida and Texas were on track but caved to political pressure. A second shut down would be an economic disaster. If the entire US would have followed health guidelines, we would have had the opening timeframes we all want.

 

[Skeets]

Thank you for your interest in killing UConn women's basketball fans.

Wait a second. Most people in the XL center will be CT residents. The virus is all but gone in CT. If they let people in, I'll be there (assuming no spike between now and then). Lots of opportunity to social distance in the XL. The real concern should be the players, coaches, assistances, etc. which I hope would be regularly tested.

 

[oldude]

BS

And your reply is based on what data specifically?

 

[Alydar]

The numbers are there to support your claim. Furthermore though, of those who have recovered , there is no reliable measure of potential lifelong effects of having the virus. This is even more reason to proceed with caution. I recently heard a doctor on TV say that as many as 30% of those who were hospitalized and recovered will likely have serious ,ongoing complications. Not sure if his prediction will hold up, but not sure it won't. And the costs to patient's finances is far from clear also. I was at a medical facility this morning for some cardio tests, and there was a person turned away because he refused to put on a mask. He claimed his constitutional rights were being violated. He neglected to cite the specific legal basis, but there are far too many people like that and they impede the ability of society in general to get to a "safe" new normal.

I started reading reports of permanent scarring of the lungs a couple of months ago. There was also evidence that the disease could be caught a second time as the antibodies leave the body in a few months after recovery. So catching the virus and staying asymptomatic does not give you permanent imunity, on the contrary, it could make you more vulnerable to a second or third attack. Scary.

 

[Cedar]

While it is clear there are a substantial number of undiagnosed coronavirus cases in the US, it is also clear there is a substantial number of undiagnosed deaths due to the virus. Yale University did a statistical study indicating that deaths from coronavirus have been undercounted by 20-30%. Specifically, Yale’s study sites an increase in deaths due to heart attack or stroke, likely from complications due to the virus.

Even if the death rate from the coronavirus is only 0.4%, that is more than 4 times the annual death rate from the flu which averages less than 0.1%.

The Yale study is interesting, but there are also indications from the medical community that there may be overcounting of Covid-19 deaths in some areas. I’ve seen reports from ER physicians and internists of patients who had leukemia, other cancers, or auto accidents who were reported as Covid-19 deaths because they happened to test positive. According to these physicians, there is a financial reimbursement incentive for hospitals to report deaths as being due to Covid-19. Indeed, some physicians report that hospital deaths in some non-Covid19 categories have dropped significantly because the cases have been misclassified as being due to Covid, when in many cases coronavirus was not the primary cause of death.

 

[MSGRET]

And your reply is based on what data specifically?

By the admission of the COVID-19 patients to nursing homes. If that didn't happen then the rate of deaths in nursing homes would have been much lower and in line with the States that did not do it. That the fact those Governors mentioned admitted that it was a mistake and that they should have been quarantined away from others that were in a high risk category.

 

[Biff]

1) Another league cancels Fall Sports - O.K. for this board.
2) Will more dominoes fall? Will we have fall sports? O.K. for this board.
3) Covid is deadly...covid is not deadly....decision is good.....you are a murderer.... you want to destroy (fill in the blank)....that's BS.....All of the previous at not O.K. on this board (for the umpteenth time).

Sorry but we are not going to turn all these threads into open discussions of Covid. NOT ON THIS FORUM.