Pasqualoni Beginning to Disappoint

[CTMike]

How about we hire Bobby Petrino for a few years?

I think (hope) you are kidding but I know a few alums who still hate the coach P hire and 100% would be in favor of hiring Petrino today to replace him.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

I believe Carl means that the recruits are more college level (body wise) ready to play than before. Guys like Myers on D-line, Knappe etc. RE was more of the molding type, RS and wait 2-3 years b4 they play. I believe these kids are more talented, bigger stronger and faster, and like someone pointed out before time will tell how good they are going to be.

They are bigger, but are they really faster and more talented?

 

[businesslawyer]

When I was writing that post, I couldn't get that last game at BCU out of my mind. They were better, but not that much better. I had the best seats I ever had for a game - 3rd row on the 50, right behind the team. But the former coach never game the team a chance to win. We had the best QB in the history of the program yet he was never given the chance to make a play. It was inside hand-off heaven. Our coach didn't play to win, he played to keep it close. He didn't believe in his team.

Recognize, please, that you cannot logically defend P (which was what this thread was about) simply by hating Edsall. You think Edsall was a horrific coach -- trust me, we all get that -- but that is totally irrelevant to how good a job P did last year or how good a coach he will be this year. Every college football coach in the country other than Randy Edsall is not Randy Edsall. There is not one decision they make that you can say is good just because you think Edsall would have done the opposite.

 

[Adios]

I think (hope) you are kidding but I know a few alums who still hate the coach P hire and 100% would be in favor of hiring Petrino today to replace him.

Petrino is a total sleazeball but also guaranteed conference championships.

 

[joey3$trike$]

They are bigger, but are they really faster and more talented?

if there able to come in right away and push the starters I'll say yes more talented and faster than previous recruits.

 

[joey3$trike$]

Wrote that on BL's receiver breakdown. maybe you missed it. I don't believe that I've state a much "Higher" level of player anywhere. You just look for the negative in anything. I most certailny believe we're bringing in a different quality of player at each position, when it comes to things like height, weight --- when you look at all the positions. Most of them are bigger, as noted, some are smaller. The concept of a redshirt year to put on weight? Gone. Can't compete week in and week out in 1-A football that way with anyone in the country and expect to be a top 25 program. That's where I'm ultimjately goign if you want to argue.

I don't think that the way we recruited in the past, could have gotten past where we got to. I think that's changed, I think the way we are recruiting now, gives us a much higher ceiling.

It remains to be seen, that we win on the field.

Happy whaler?

Tell'em Carl! If people can't see the more talented, college level playing recruits coming in then previously then they have no clue. Winning is everything. Keep them coming Coach! Of course it only matters on the field, time will tell.

 

[businesslawyer]

Tell'em Carl! If people can't see the more talented, college level playing recruits coming in then previously then they have no clue. Winning is everything. Keep them coming Coach! Of course it only matters on the field, time will tell.

If winning is everything, then why do we have no clue if we can't tell new recruits are more talented prior to them winning more than less talented recruits did? Or is that just too logical?

 

[freescooter]

Recognize, please, that you cannot logically defend P (which was what this thread was about) simply by hating Edsall. You think Edsall was a horrific coach -- trust me, we all get that -- but that is totally irrelevant to how good a job P did last year or how good a coach he will be this year. Every college football coach in the country other than Randy Edsall is not Randy Edsall. There is not one decision they make that you can say is good just because you think Edsall would have done the opposite.

I saw that Vandy play as a bad outcome but not all that outrageous a call. If the pass falls incomplete, it isn't much different from if we had run the ball. If Mac completes a pass, game over and we win. If he threw it into the cheap seats, again, we punt and try to win with defense just as if we had handed to the tailback. They tried to ice the game. the quarterback bungled the play. I happens. Not much different from calling a Todman run on your own 25. He slips or the linebacker makes a play and Edsall is a bonehead because everyone knows you punt on 4th down in your own end up by a couple with time running out. Pasqualoni went for the win,. I have no problem with that. I didn't particularly like the specific play call, but I get idea. Now there were times in his tenure when I have no doubt that Edsall didn't think he had the horses to compete with his opponent. In those games he tried to shorten the game in a long shot hope that he would get a late break. Rarely worked out that way unfortunately. But getting into a footrace with Miami or VaTech in 2001 wasn't going to get us anything.

 

[joey3$trike$]

If winning is everything, then why do we have no clue if we can't tell new recruits are more talented prior to them winning more than less talented recruits did? Or is that just too logical?

this is the first full year of Coach P in my opinion recruiting wise. He came in Jan/feb. Also had a walk-on qb as a starter. These guys are in his system now for a year/and his recruits are coming in. That's why i say time will tell. This year I bet it's better than 5-7.

 

[Carl Spackler]

If winning is everything, then why do we have no clue if we can't tell new recruits are more talented prior to them winning more than less talented recruits did? Or is that just too logical?

I did a few linda blair's trying to figure this one out, but then it clicked - #1, you (and I think others too) are interchanging the idea/word talent - with physical differences . I've been talkign about physical differences, mostly vertically in the roster. My fault probably for not making the clear distinction that I'm not saying our incoming players are better than prior incoming players. They are physically different though.

As for the too logical question? As recruiting relates to winning?

Well that all depends on the size of your truth table as compared to mine.

 

[joey3$trike$]

I think better recruiting(depth wise) translates on the field. I still don't think were on the same level as Ville, Rutgers, Cincy yet, and it shows since 2005 Uconn is a combined 7-14 vs. these teams. I agree have been better recently 3-6 in last 3. Let the upward trend continue.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

You can't judge a coach within the first two years, recruiting-wise. Heck, in NCAA Football 12, I brought in a Top 30 class and a Top 10 class in my first two years and my 3rd year was still tough because my recruits were only true sophs or RS sophs. It takes a few years to develop the recruits into legitimate players.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I'm thinking the troll who put out the OP has a huge smile on his face now that this thread went 11 freaking pages.

 

[businesslawyer]

I did a few linda blair's trying to figure this one out, but then it clicked - #1, you (and I think others too) are interchanging the idea/word talent - with physical differences . I've been talkign about physical differences, mostly vertically in the roster. My fault probably for not making the clear distinction that I'm not saying our incoming players are better than prior incoming players. They are physically different though.

As for the too logical question? As recruiting relates to winning?

Well that all depends on the size of your truth table as compared to mine.

Enough. I very, very much would like to see P improve the program. I personally will refrain from congratulating him for doing so until it's done, but that is obviously just me.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Enough. I very, very much would like to see P improve the program. I personally will refrain from congratulating him for doing so until it's done, but that is obviously just me.

Yes, quite.

 

[whaler11]

Enough. I very, very much would like to see P improve the program. I personally will refrain from congratulating him for doing so until it's done, but that is obviously just me.

Oh no. It's not just you.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Did I ever tell you about the most famous football game?

 

[businesslawyer]

Did I ever tell you about the most famous football game?

You da man!

It's good to know that, for all the twitter stalking that people are talking about, I'm not the only damn dinosaur on the board.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

I'm a fair person, that is a legitimate point. I don't really feel like doing any research tonight, but I still am not sold on the concept that:
Taller & Heavier = Better. The program needs to recruit better players to get over the next hump - I just don't think I'll know if they are better based on what Scout lists as their height and weight in high school. I think I'll know when I see them play better than the players who went to four straight bowl games and won two conference championships.

On the Commander's question why we have not fared well against top 20-25;
Speed, we rarely if ever had top twenty overall team speed. Thats why we have trouble beating the GaTechs, VaTechs, Michigans , Miami's and Oaklahomas. Its why we struggled with WVU, Cinci and Temple. We need to go fast.

 

[mets1090]

I think better recruiting(depth wise) translates on the field. I still don't think were on the same level as Ville, Rutgers, Cincy yet, and it shows since 2005 Uconn is a combined 7-14 vs. these teams. I agree have been better recently 3-6 in last 3. Let the upward trend continue.

If this is sarcasm then I get it, but based on how you wrote it maybe you mean it and just aren't that great at math. Hard to tell on the internets.

 

[Carl Spackler]

On the Commander's question why we have not fared well against top 20-25;
Speed, we rarely if ever had top twenty overall team speed. Thats why we have trouble beating the GaTechs, VaTechs, Michigans , Miami's and Oaklahomas. Its why we struggled with WVU, Cinci and Temple. We need to go fast.

Sir, are you saying that we were in the past......slow? Nonsense. THERE! East Hartford! The windy plains of the old aircraft test strip. Let me tell you about the day that I single handedly led a charge up the stairs to the Coors wagon. THere was a herd of large, sweaty, and angry beasts in the way in the concourse, as the home team was getting bady beaten that day. I kicked one of the larger beasts in the tail, and then used my shoelace as a lasso, and rode the beast like a steer through the crowd, singing the fight song at the top of my lungs....I'm an accomplished singer you know......a slight tug to the right at the stair, and stunning dismount....and there I was at the counter, ready to purchase my beer.....it was such a stunning display......the vendor simply handed it over. The crowd stood in awe. And since that day, whenever a beer is needed, they simply call my name.

Oh yes, we were small and slow. But that didn't matter.

 

[mets1090]

I assumed Spackler went off the deep end a couple decades ago but I think we all just saw it happen on our computer screens tonight.

 

[UConnDan97]

Sir, are you saying that we were in the past......slow? Nonsense. THERE! East Hartford! The windy plains of the old aircraft test strip. Let me tell you about the day that I single handedly led a charge up the stairs to the Coors wagon. THere was a herd of large, sweaty, and angry beasts in the way in the concourse, as the home team was getting bady beaten that day. I kicked one of the larger beasts in the tail, and then used my shoelace as a lasso, and rode the beast like a steer through the crowd, singing the fight song at the top of my lungs....I'm an accomplished singer you know......a slight tug to the right at the stair, and stunning dismount....and there I was at the counter, ready to purchase my beer.....it was such a stunning display......the vendor simply handed it over. The crowd stood in awe. And since that day, whenever a beer is needed, they simply call my name.

Oh yes, we were small and slow. But that didn't matter.

 

[Carl Spackler]

The other old farts around here with creaky knees will get it

 

[mets1090]

I'm 21 and my knees are creakier than the doors on my first car. The doors were really creaky.

 

[Hoophound]

The other old farts around here with creaky knees will get it

Good stuff.

 

[sportsart]

this is the first full year of Coach P in my opinion recruiting wise. He came in Jan/feb. Also had a walk-on qb as a starter. These guys are in his system now for a year/and his recruits are coming in. That's why i say time will tell. This year I bet it's better than 5-7.

True now that PP got a full year of his recruits in, this year should be better than 5-7. Good point.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Sir, are you saying that we were in the past......slow? Nonsense. THERE! East Hartford! The windy plains of the old aircraft test strip. Let me tell you about the day that I single handedly led a charge up the stairs to the Coors wagon. THere was a herd of large, sweaty, and angry beasts in the way in the concourse, as the home team was getting bady beaten that day. I kicked one of the larger beasts in the tail, and then used my shoelace as a lasso, and rode the beast like a steer through the crowd, singing the fight song at the top of my lungs....I'm an accomplished singer you know......a slight tug to the right at the stair, and stunning dismount....and there I was at the counter, ready to purchase my beer.....it was such a stunning display......the vendor simply handed it over. The crowd stood in awe. And since that day, whenever a beer is needed, they simply call my name.

Oh yes, we were small and slow. But that didn't matter.

A+ stuff right here.

 

[Waquoit]

Recognize, please, that you cannot logically defend P (which was what this thread was about) simply by hating Edsall.
.

What you are doing is simply Rovian. Taking your own obsession and trying to project it upon someone else. My post was defended P in full, you're the one that seized on one line and made it about Edsall. You're the one that has to defend Edsall against any little snub perceived or otherwise. You've gone full-upstater for Edsall. It's become parody and you are never going to get better until you face it instead of projecting to others.

 

[ZooCougar]

Is it any wonder that the biggest Apologists are also the biggest P critics and/or skeptics? I find this to be really interesting. I imagine that if Edsall gets fired soon, the same people will want him back.

And for the record I couldn't stand Edsall, and I am less than plussed with this current staff.