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Wings made a better game of it, but still came up short. Paige with her first double double, 12 points, 10 assists. Wings created 19 Lynx turnovers. Collier 12 for 12 on free throws sealed the deal.

I only watched the fourth quarter. Didn't see much of an offense for Dallas, just pass it around the perimeter, then chuck up a three. Paige was looking for her teammates, but I didn't see anyone looking to help Paige get open. Arike was 8 for 20, Paige was 3 for 11. Paige led the team in minutes played with 37:16. Wings are definitely a work in progress.
 
I just asked in another forum…if Paige or Arike is the PG. I know it can happen where a mismatch occurs on defense, but is it me or does Paige look to be guarding the opponent’s 3 or 4 a bit much?
 
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Aluminny69 said:
Wings made a better game of it, but still came up short. Paige with her first double double, 12 points, 10 assists. Wings created 19 Lynx turnovers. Collier 12 for 12 on free throws sealed the deal.

I only watched the fourth quarter. Didn't see much of an offense for Dallas, just pass it around the perimeter, then chuck up a three. Paige was looking for her teammates, but I didn't see anyone looking to help Paige get open. Arike was 8 for 20, Paige was 3 for 11. Paige led the team in minutes played with 37:16. Wings are definitely a work in progress.
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Well it's nice she had her first dbl dbl seeing she only had 5 in her career at Uconn
 
They can both start an offense and take the ball up, but I think Arike is way better off ball than on it, while Paige can succeed at either role. Ty Harris is probably the most natural PG on team, and I think she needs to see more minutes as she recovers from injury. Wings looked a lot better tonight on both offense and defense--they also missed a lot of wide open threes. But I saw way less forcing shots on offense--it was obvious they had watched tape of the last game.
 
Let's see. There were 3 games tonight. That's six teams of players involved. Of all the activity tonight only ONE player jacked up 20 shots. Of course you know who that was. Until that dynamic changes in Dallas that team will go nowhere. It sure as hell won't change with a first year no experience head coach.
 
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AidanFan20 said:
The way I understand it, that +/- stat isn't really very useful in a single game.

Sorta like if a light-hitting 2nd baseman goes 3 for 4 with 2 homers and a single one day, he's not really a .750 hitter, nor is he a 2.250 slugger. (but he was that one day...)

The +/- thing is useful as a longtime stat, like 10 or more games, preferably more.

But yeah, Arike need to pass the ball, then get herself open. Paige will find her right quick...
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Like all data, it's a tool and like all data it's easy to misuse it or over interpret it. I agree with you that it has very little usefulness over a single game, but as the sample size grows, it does become relevant and helpful information.

There are some players that don't always fill up the stat sheet but contribute greatly to the team success. Nika has been like that over much of her career. For those types of players plus/minus stats help to reveal their contribution.

Think about a player who plays great defense, which forces the other team to play at a pace they're not used to. She might not score many points, or get a steel or a block, but the value of her play is more than the sum of her stat line.
 
After watching parts, though not all, of the Wings' first three games, a few things kept running through my head.

1. I wonder how it must be for Paige to go from being coached by Geno, one of the most experienced, most successful coaches of any sport, on any level, of all time, to being coached by Chris Koclanes, who has, I believe, never been a head coach before. I don't mean that as a slight on him at all—everyone has to start somewhere; Geno did too!—it's just such a contrast. "Coach P" might actually enjoy the opportunity to be almost a coach-on-the-floor if that's a role that's made available to her.

2. I know Arike's been getting a lot of criticism for being something of a black hole offensively so far, but I have to call out my girl DiJonai, too! I love her energy and her toughness. Still, I feel like her usual outstanding defense has been lacking, and she has been taking one ill-advised shot after another. I came to like her a lot when she was on the Sun last season (and then when she teamed up with Stewie and Aaliyah in Unrivaled), but the Wings need her to step up and play to her strengths—focus on defensive fundamentals and build from there.

3. The sky might look like it's falling, but wait until the Wings play, well, the Sky...or the Valkyries, or the Mystic, or the Sun. Starting off the first two out of the three against the Lynx was a trial by fire. In Paige, I trust.
 
Jonathan14 said:
After watching parts, though not all, of the Wings' first three games, a few things kept running through my head.

1. I wonder how it must be for Paige to go from being coached by Geno, one of the most experienced, most successful coaches of any sport, on any level, of all time, to being coached by Chris Koclanes, who has, I believe, never been a head coach before. I don't mean that as a slight on him at all—everyone has to start somewhere; Geno did too!—it's just such a contrast. "Coach P" might actually enjoy the opportunity to be almost a coach-on-the-floor if that's a role that's made available to her.

2. I know Arike's been getting a lot of criticism for being something of a black hole offensively so far, but I have to call out my girl DiJonai, too! I love her energy and her toughness. Still, I feel like her usual outstanding defense has been lacking, and she has been taking one ill-advised shot after another. I came to like her a lot when she was on the Sun last season (and then when she teamed up with Stewie and Aaliyah in Unrivaled), but the Wings need her to step up and play to her strengths—focus on defensive fundamentals and build from there.

3. The sky might look like it's falling, but wait until the Wings play, well, the Sky...or the Valkyries, or the Mystic, or the Sun. Starting off the first two out of the three against the Lynx was a trial by fire. In Paige, I trust.
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This part. It's like Indiana's schedule last season. The WNBA didn't do Dallas any favours with the start of their season either. And for the trial by fire comment, losing to the Lynx by four after losing by double digits in their first game is a heck of a effort. They just need to keep working at it.
 
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Blue Huskie said:
Let's see. There were 3 games tonight. That's six teams of players involved. Of all the activity tonight only ONE player jacked up 20 shots. Of course you know who that was. Until that dynamic changes in Dallas that team will go nowhere. It sure as hell won't change with a first year no experience head coach.
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This isn't true when you look at FGs and FTs together. For example, B. Sykes on the Mystics took 19 FGs and 14FTs, which means she probably took at least 24 shots during the game. Kelsey Plum took 19 shots and 10 FTs, so she also likely shot over 20 times from the field. Sabally took 16 shots, but got to FT line 15 times, which means she likely shot at least 20 times from the field.

What made Arike's stat line bizarre the other night was she took ZERO FTs. Part of that is because 13 of her 20 shots were from the 3 pt line (Where she shot a pretty good 38%), as compared to going 3/7 from 2pt range. You'll take 5/13 from 3pt range, but to be more effective i'm sure the Wings want her drawing more fouls.
 
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Well... I just bought a ticket to see Paige and the Wings play at Chase Center v. the Valkyries! July 25...

It'll be my first time seeing Paige in person, first time going to a WNBA game, and my first time getting inside the Chase Center.

Nice trifecta. :)
 
AidanFan20 said:
Well... I just bought a ticket to see Paige and the Wings play at Chase Center v. the Valkyries! July 25...

It'll be my first time seeing Paige in person, first time going to a WNBA game, and my first time getting inside the Chase Center.

Nice trifecta. :)
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Definitely came out a winner here. Awesome and enjoy! I'm patiently waiting for 2026 to do the same when the Tempo starts playing. Season tickets aren't in my budget, but I hope to see the Lynx and Mystics at minimum.
 
Poor Paige on that crummy Dallas team. Another loss today.
 
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