Paige #2???? [merged thread]

[Bone Dog]

So, how much have you helped espn increase their click count?

A memo comes down from the executive suites on the top floor and it consists of three words: “Stir the pot.”

 

[sun]

The reason why I don't buy into comparing each player's efficiency stats is because it's quite possible that USC played an overall tougher schedule because of all of the cupcakes in the BE. And yet Paige still didn't score anywhere near as many points. Juju needed to work harder than Paige to score that many points. Why didn't Paige do it against easier teams & she even admitted that she performed at less than 100% of her ability against Iowa.
Someone who is putting in max effort to win all season long is going to get more credit & more of the spotlight than Paige who wasn't exerting 100%.
So to talk about efficiency, perhaps ESPN is rewarding personal effort as being the highest form of efficiency.
Paige has gotten plenty fo accolades, and perhaps she'll get many more by the end of the year.
But in this pre-season ESPN poll, I don't see anything wrong with recognizing Juju for being the 2nd highest scorer in the nation last year,
And this year she's playing in the Big 10. while last year the Pac 12 was more competitive than the Big East.
Juju is a workhorse on the court, there's no doubt about it.
ESPN jpurnalists are like referees, they score punches, vote & add up the scores.
That doesn't mean that it was a unanimous decision, but the pre-season edge was given to Juju based on her personal effort & success last year for putting the ball in the hoop more than Paige.
She manufactured many more points.
It's as simple as scoring punches in a boxing match & Juju landed more punches.

 

[Rowdy831]

I am a huge Paige fan and always have been one. To me she is clearly the best offensive player in the game and I say that because of her efficiency when shooting. She gets a lot of points without having to shoot every time down the floor. This year with more players healthy around her I would expect her game to be equal to last year without having to over work for stats.

JuJu I only watched about 5 times last year and her game is quite a bit different than Paige's, at least in the small sample size I had. She is a player who takes a lot of bad shots to get her points and gets a friendly whistle when she jumps into the defender. I do think with a season under her belt she will be a better all around player even if her points per game go down. He biggest advantage from my POV is she has much more size than Paige and that should help her down the road.

Both are great and I expect both to exceptional seasons. All you can really hope for both of them is to have a season where they get to play at 100% health and to have a healthy team around them.

 

[Bone Dog]

Juju looked good in a real game against Ole Miss. This is tougher competition than many of the top programs have scheduled for November, and they barely pulled out a 68-66 win.

Juju's stat line for 40 mins was 29 pts (8-19) 10 rebounds 4 assists 3 steals 5 blocks and 9 turnovers.

Other than the turnovers, this is a really good line for a game against quality competition.

For contrast, Paige's stat line against much lesser competition:

For 27 minutes -- 27 pts (12-14) 9 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 1 steal and zero turnovers.

This is a really good, even a near flawless line, albeit against lesser competition. I can hardly wait to see how this comparison grows over the season.

PS: one other bright spot for Juju is that she scored going to her left a couple times.

 

[Zarathustra]

Juju looked good in a real game against Ole Miss. This is tougher competition than many of the top programs have scheduled for November, and they barely pulled out a 68-66 win.

Juju's stat line for 40 mins was 29 pts (8-19) 10 rebounds 4 assists 3 steals 5 blocks and 9 turnovers.

Other than the turnovers, this is a really good line for a game against quality competition.

For contrast, Paige's stat line against much lesser competition:

For 27 minutes -- 27 pts (12-14) 9 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 1 steal and zero turnovers.

This is a really good, even a near flawless line, albeit against lesser competition. I can hardly wait to see how this comparison grows over the season.

PS: one other bright spot for Juju is that she scored going to her left a couple times.

As I recall JuJu got 10 points from the free-throw line (10/12). Ole Miss was ranked #20, I believe.
JuJu was also 1/4 from three-point land. Overall, the Ole Miss guards and Ole Miss's three-point shooting
made the upset doable... It just did not quite happen. If USC is susceptible to good guard play and
three-point shooting, I like our chances even more than earlier.... But, much too early to prognosticate that game!

 

[Skeets]

I'm not a big fan of using stats to compare 2 players, Paige and JuJu included. They don't play against the same teams, in the same situations, with the same program philosophies, with the same supporting staffs, etc.

Having said that, Paige is better

 

[Alydar]

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[Kaizen]

Juju looked good in a real game against Ole Miss. This is tougher competition than many of the top programs have scheduled for November, and they barely pulled out a 68-66 win.

Juju's stat line for 40 mins was 29 pts (8-19) 10 rebounds 4 assists 3 steals 5 blocks and 9 turnovers.

Other than the turnovers, this is a really good line for a game against quality competition.

For contrast, Paige's stat line against much lesser competition:

For 27 minutes -- 27 pts (12-14) 9 rebounds 2 assists 1 block 1 steal and zero turnovers.

This is a really good, even a near flawless line, albeit against lesser competition. I can hardly wait to see how this comparison grows over the season.

PS: one other bright spot for Juju is that she scored going to her left a couple times.

JuJu has 40 mins and Paige has only 27 mins playing time. So comparison is not in the same base.

 

[visitingcock]

JuJu has 40 mins and Paige has only 27 mins playing time. So comparison is not in the same base.

Juju has 40 minutes pt. Paige has zero.

 

[Kaizen]

Juju has 40 minutes pt. Paige has zero.

What is "pt.? Please use the symbol we all know.

From Google,
pt can be,
playable teaser,
physical therapy,
part time,
point,
post down

 

[Tonyc]

Not having number 1 is silly. She is at a level that no other player is even close to. There are alot of very good players. Paige is above that.

 

[visitingcock]

What is "pt.? Please use the symbol we all know.

From Google,
pt can be,
playable teaser,
physical therapy,
part time,
point,
post down

40 minutes playable teaser?
40 minutes physical therapy?
40 minutes part time?
Hmmm, what a puzzle! I wonder what the context suggests? Especially since I’m quoting and replying to somebody who uses the words “playing time.” Whatever can it mean?

 

[Alydar]

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