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PAC-12 Chaos

Not saying it’s going to happen, or that it’s in the works.
But a Pac/AcC merger or alliance would be interesting. The academics are good enough for Pac and the East-west line up could make for interesting tv line ups.

How much could that league garner, and could it stave off poaching from Big 12?

Nothing will stop Big or Sec from grabbing teams it wants
 
Brock Huard just buried that conference:

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

Brock Huard Calls Pac-12 TV Situation 'Very Dire'

The college football world is awaiting the next move for the Pac-12 Conference, as the entire sport is waiting to see what kind of TV contract offer the league may ultimately land. That will determine the future of the conference, and ultimately the sport. On Friday during his radio show in...
www.heartlandcollegesports.com www.heartlandcollegesports.com
 
The PAC really should’ve gone all out on getting into the central time zone in some capacity over the last 12-15 years. They had multiple chances to take teams from the Big 12 and never pulled the trigger. This is their own doing- and should’ve been pretty obvious to anyone paying attention, especially when you realized the numbers Big Noon Kickoff was getting.

The PAC‘s academic component is getting in the way here IMO. Adding 4 schools in the central time zone would really help them.. even mountain time zone could work. But when teams like UNLV, Boise, Memphis are all off the radar because of academics, that means you’re looking at adding just to add with schools like Rice, SMU, Tulane, etc that nobody cares about.

The PAC could do themselves some serious favors by doing what the Big 12 is doing and stretching across multiple time zones to serve multiple roles for their network partners. Instead, they’re trapped in their own regionalist minds, indifferent on football and propping up academics to deter any major football candidates that could help them succeed
 
Drew said:
The PAC really should’ve gone all out on getting into the central time zone in some capacity over the last 12-15 years. They had multiple chances to take teams from the Big 12 and never pulled the trigger. This is their own doing- and should’ve been pretty obvious to anyone paying attention, especially when you realized the numbers Big Noon Kickoff was getting.

The PAC‘s academic component is getting in the way here IMO. Adding 4 schools in the central time zone would really help them.. even mountain time zone could work. But when teams like UNLV, Boise, Memphis are all off the radar because of academics, that means you’re looking at adding just to add with schools like Rice, SMU, Tulane, etc that nobody cares about.

The PAC could do themselves some serious favors by doing what the Big 12 is doing and stretching across multiple time zones to serve multiple roles for their network partners. Instead, they’re trapped in their own regionalist minds, indifferent on football and propping up academics to deter any major football candidates that could help them succeed
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In the Bay Area, there are just way too many sports entertaining options.

We got the following,:

SF Giants
SF 49ers
Warriors
San Jose Sharks
San Jose Earthquakes
Oakland A's (soon to be Las Vegas)

For colleges, we got:

Stanford
Santa Clara University
USF
San José State
UC Berkeley
San Mary's

We also got great weather so people are out all the time doing outdoor stuff.

People only care to watch college football when they have time. Most Stanford and UC Berkeley fans are fair weather fans. Half of them don't even know their schools are playing most of the time.

Then there is that academic elitism. I can't picture these school alums hanging out with alums of OKST, Baylor, BYU, Cincy, and just about all the B12 schools. The only one they might stomach might be Kansas.

If PAC-12 is smart, they should have added SDSU, Boise ST, UNLV, and SMU. They also got other options like Fresno St, Colorado State, and even Hawaii. Those snobby presidents just won't pull the trigger though.

This conference reminds of the old Big East to a certain extend. They just react vs. doing whatever is necessary to survive.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
Brock Huard just buried that conference:

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

Brock Huard Calls Pac-12 TV Situation 'Very Dire'

The college football world is awaiting the next move for the Pac-12 Conference, as the entire sport is waiting to see what kind of TV contract offer the league may ultimately land. That will determine the future of the conference, and ultimately the sport. On Friday during his radio show in...
www.heartlandcollegesports.com www.heartlandcollegesports.com
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I can't understand the reactions to this, as though the fans owe these players something.

As more and more players get paid, there's going to be a disconnect between the fanbase and the players, because the students will stop looking at the players as students.

This is only natural.

I suppose in Manhattan Kansas where there's absolutely nothing else to do, it will never change.

But Marshawn looking surprised? Come on. What did he expect?
 



-> The Pac-12’s long-delayed media rights deal will not be announced at Friday’s football media day, a conference source told The Athletic, in part because of recent developments in the negotiations.

“We’ve seen folks come to the table that were not at the table six months ago,” the person said. “The patience that the presidents and chancellors are showing is paying off, because waiting is going to result in better deals than the league would have gotten three, six, nine months ago.”

The person said there remains no specific timetable for an announcement beyond the “near future.” <-

Farouk and Sportskeeda must have made a call…

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“We’ve seen folks come to the table that were not at the table six months ago,”

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nelsonmuntz said:
www.espn.com

Source: Pac-12 media rights deal expected in 'near future'

The Pac-12 will not announce a new media rights deal Friday, a source told ESPN, but the conference's patience "is about to pay off" in the "near future."
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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"The 10 schools in the conference have prenegotiated the grant of rights deal and agreed on the terms, including how the revenue would be split"

This is big news if true, now we'll find if the B12 ever really wanted us. If they are serious about being the top basketball brand they need us.

ESPN continuing to be the gatekeeper in all of this scares me. I fear rule #1 is alive and well, and very real.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
"The 10 schools in the conference have prenegotiated the grant of rights deal and agreed on the terms, including how the revenue would be split"

This is big news if true, now we'll find if the B12 ever really wanted us. If they are serious about being the top basketball brand they need us.

ESPN continuing to be the gatekeeper in all of this scares me. I fear rule #1 is alive and well, and very real.
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It was previously reported that they had agreed to the language of the GOR contingent upon agreeing to the media rights. This is not binding and the schools still have an out.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
In the Bay Area, there are just way too many sports entertaining options.

We got the following,:

SF Giants
SF 49ers
Warriors
San Jose Sharks
San Jose Earthquakes
Oakland A's (soon to be Las Vegas)

For colleges, we got:

Stanford
Santa Clara University
USF
San José State
UC Berkeley
San Mary's

We also got great weather so people are out all the time doing outdoor stuff.

People only care to watch college football when they have time. Most Stanford and UC Berkeley fans are fair weather fans. Half of them don't even know their schools are playing most of the time.

Then there is that academic elitism. I can't picture these school alums hanging out with alums of OKST, Baylor, BYU, Cincy, and just about all the B12 schools. The only one they might stomach might be Kansas.

If PAC-12 is smart, they should have added SDSU, Boise ST, UNLV, and SMU. They also got other options like Fresno St, Colorado State, and even Hawaii. Those snobby presidents just won't pull the trigger though.

This conference reminds of the old Big East to a certain extend. They just react vs. doing whatever is necessary to survive.
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Nothing at all unique about the Bay Area sports entertainment options.
 
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superjohn said:
Nothing at all unique about the Bay Area sports entertainment options.
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I know, but people here don't have the greatest interest in college football. They will go to pro games though especially for 49ers, Warriors, and Giants. Stanford and Cal? Not so much.
 
Fishy said:
The PAC12 has a time zone issue, but it also has something far worse than a time zone issue.

If they go head to head to other conferences, people in the midwest and east coast are simply going to chose not to watch.

Nobody on the east coast is going to pick Stanford-Cal at noon on Saturday.
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Agreed. And that problem extends to the people in the west as well. Stanford-Cal is a big game in the Bay Area. But very few other games are. Those markets are just not really big college sports markets. Part of that is that people are outdoors because of weather and part of it is a heavy mix of immigrants that aren't even familiar with these sports. I worked with a guy in San Jose from China who became a huge football fan. He's in our fantasy football league, loves it. For every one of him there are a lot that never watched a football or basketball game.

Oregon and Washington game would be watched. As would USC-UCLA, or Arizona basketball. But otherwise it's pretty weak. Colorado probably has appeal again now.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Walk me through what you think this means.
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I have no idea what Huskymedic thinks it means and I imagine that he can speak for himself but I will throw in my opinion as I was about to post the article.

This is bad optics for Stanford as they pride themselves on being primarily an academic institution and those who care deeply about these things will most likely view the move as damage control.

As far as realignment goes, the only way this has any impact at all is that it may make Stanford less inclined to agree with adding a member who isn't held in some academic regard (hurts California state university schools; SDSU, Fresno St etc.).
 
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Conspiracy Theory: Deion scheduled his surgery around PAC 12 Media Day on purpose because he wants Colorado to leave the PAC 12.
 
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#headfake :p




-> …But the university’s commitment to the conference it joined a dozen years ago could depend, in part, on a long-awaited Pac-12 broadcast rights deal. DiStefano said clarity on the new media partnerships is expected to be presented to league chancellors and presidents Thursday by conference commissioner George Kliavkoff.

“I’m eagerly awaiting to hear what the commissioner has to say (Thursday),” DiStefano told The Post in a phone interview Wednesday afternoon. “But at this point, the 10 (Pac-12) schools are staying together and awaiting a message from the commissioner.”<-

-> “(CU’s) goal is to stay within the Pac-12 and have a media deal coming up shortly,” the chancellor continued. “That’s our goal. And I believe the presidents and chancellors of the Pac-12 are together on that.” <-

->When asked if there was a target payout number that CU would like to see from the Pac-12, DiStefano replied:

“You’d like to see it at — I think all along, we’ve talked about (and have been) looking at, what the ACC and the Big 12 (have received) and what the SEC and the Big Ten are getting, and wanting to be kind of in the middle of the pack — probably to be third, behind the SEC. That’s been the goal for such a long time.”

DiStefano added that he had yet to see a “final number on media rights (from Kliavkoff) … that’s why we’re meeting tomorrow.” <-
 
huskymedic said:
#headfake :p




-> …But the university’s commitment to the conference it joined a dozen years ago could depend, in part, on a long-awaited Pac-12 broadcast rights deal. DiStefano said clarity on the new media partnerships is expected to be presented to league chancellors and presidents Thursday by conference commissioner George Kliavkoff.

“I’m eagerly awaiting to hear what the commissioner has to say (Thursday),” DiStefano told The Post in a phone interview Wednesday afternoon. “But at this point, the 10 (Pac-12) schools are staying together and awaiting a message from the commissioner.”<-

-> “(CU’s) goal is to stay within the Pac-12 and have a media deal coming up shortly,” the chancellor continued. “That’s our goal. And I believe the presidents and chancellors of the Pac-12 are together on that.” <-

->When asked if there was a target payout number that CU would like to see from the Pac-12, DiStefano replied:

“You’d like to see it at — I think all along, we’ve talked about (and have been) looking at, what the ACC and the Big 12 (have received) and what the SEC and the Big Ten are getting, and wanting to be kind of in the middle of the pack — probably to be third, behind the SEC. That’s been the goal for such a long time.”

DiStefano added that he had yet to see a “final number on media rights (from Kliavkoff) … that’s why we’re meeting tomorrow.” <-
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It will come down to that media deal number. If it is low, I do believe Colorado will be going to the B12. If it is close, it will be a tough decision for Colorado since they get so many kids from CA.

At this point, B12 should just invite UCONN if there isn't a partner. It makes no sense for the B12 to wait since there are no divisions so even number of teams isn't required.
 
Fishy said:
The PAC12 has a time zone issue, but it also has something far worse than a time zone issue.

If they go head to head to other conferences, people in the midwest and east coast are simply going to chose not to watch.

Nobody on the east coast is going to pick Stanford-Cal at noon on Saturday.
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Easy solution, schedule UConn every year.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I know, but people here don't have the greatest interest in college football. They will go to pro games though especially for 49ers, Warriors, and Giants. Stanford and Cal? Not so much.
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We could say the exact same thing about the Northeast, specifically NYC and Boston.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
It will come down to that media deal number. If it is low, I do believe Colorado will be going to the B12. If it is close, it will be a tough decision for Colorado since they get so many kids from CA.

At this point, B12 should just invite UCONN if there isn't a partner. It makes no sense for the B12 to wait since there are no divisions so even number of teams isn't required.
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It may be a close and a difficult decision, but it doesn't hinge on a connection to California as a source of students or on the prevalence of west coast alumni. CU-Boulder has been attracting kids from California since forever. Kids from there, and from everywhere else, are attracted by what they perceive to be a lifestyle thing. Attitudes don't hinge upon conference affiliation. It was like that when my daughter was a student there during CU's glory days in the Big12. Back then, McCartney attracted a lot of football talent from Texas, California, and American Samoa.
 
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