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Oz says Gilbert to Shockers

8893 said:
Yeah, I got that part; it was the "lapse of reason" part I was questioning.

No one here knows what all is going into this decision and I think it's crazy--especially after all the excellent reporting on Al during the past couple weeks--that so many people here are sitting in judgment of him no matter what he chooses to do.
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I think many of us want Al to finally be happy and productive, and to showcase his talents in order to land a good pro spot somewhere.

Given both the on court and off court happenings involving both Al and WSU this season, it's only natural to wonder if WSU is a real good fit for him. With 7 outgoing transfers the cupboard is bound to be a bit bare, and the coach is known to be much less nurturing than Dan Hurley. I for one hope Oz is wrong and Al finds a better situation. Just my opinion.
 
YearoftheHusky said:
.... because, well, it’s Wichita, and Connecticut people should never had to travel that far in the first place to see him play.

yup, now we get to travel to much closer spots, like Nebraska and Missouri, which are nowhere near Kansas!
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intlzncster said:
Because he's a KO fan, first and foremost. That's his boy. He'd take KO over the university 100 out of 100.
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Understood, but would also be a foolish move to implicate yourself for such a reason...which he didn't do. He only bragged that he played a part in it, which could have been anything. Speculating further about his meaning has no upside, IMO.
 
CL82 said:
Agree, but it's not the least bit surprising. That is what we do here. I don't think any of it is intended to be mean spirited. It think the vast majority of us (if not all of us) wish him well. The question is what is the best choice for him. I'm not sure that WSU is, but then again I take anything that Oz posts these days with a healthy helping of salt.
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Huskybass said:
I think many of us want Al to finally be happy and productive, and to showcase his talents in order to land a good pro spot somewhere.

Given both the on court and off court happenings involving both Al and WSU this season, it's only natural to wonder if WSU is a real good fit for him. With 7 outgoing transfers the cupboard is bound to be a bit bare, and the coach is known to be much less nurturing than Dan Hurley. I for one hope Oz is wrong and Al finds a better situation. Just my opinion.
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I get it; I just have a hard time believing that Al and those with whom he is consulting, including Hurley, aren't very well aware of everything we know and more. I trust that they are in a much better position than we are to weigh the factors and come to a decision about what they think is best for him.

After all he's been through, and what a great guy--and great Husky--he seems to be, it just sticks in my craw to see so many people question his judgment for deciding to transfer; while so many others claim he had no choice and was shown the door; while still others question the wisdom of every single team that has been mentioned as a potential landing place for him. It's exhausting.

I just want the kid to do what makes him happy.
 
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Inyatkin said:
A little weird how everyone is willing to write off Wichita based on not a whole lot. They were a Final Four team and national contender in the very recent past.
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But for the latest ish, I maintained the same sentiments.
 
2Infinity said:
Understood, but would also be a foolish move to implicate yourself for such a reason...which he didn't do. He only bragged that he played a part in it, which could have been anything. Speculating further about his meaning has no upside, IMO.
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Speculating on just about anything on here has no upside if we are being honest.
 
CL82 said:
Agree, but it's not the least bit surprising. That is what we do here. I don't think any of it is intended to be mean spirited. It think the vast majority of us (if not all of us) wish him well. The question is what is the best choice for him. I'm not sure that WSU is, but then again I take anything that Oz posts these days with a healthy helping of salt.
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Not mean spirited at all. The discussion here has certainly questioned the sensibility of such a transfer. After all, AG, with his notable development under Dan Hurley, could play an inportant part on the team next year - or as some might assert, maybe not. So as per parts of the thread, if ur going to transfer with that amazing set of skills, why go to a potential dumpster fire next door? Why not a complete change of scenary (ie, different conference) to a spot that provides the visiblity he deserves??

That said, no one wahas been a bigger supporter for the kid that I. I recomended (I think), and hoo-rahed, the fact that he finally went to Steadman Hawkins at Vail after 2 disappointmnet surgeries. I went to S-H for an orthopaedic issue year ago, and while many local hospitals talked a good game, SH delivered. Seems like that finally worked. Hope for the season seemed unlimited. Same for AG!

So, if true, transfer to WS seems bizzare.

Also, if true, begs my Q of what's next for UConn? a needed 5??
 
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8893 said:
I get it; I just have a hard time believing that Al and those with whom he is consulting, including Hurley, aren't very well aware of everything we know and more. I trust that they are in a much better position than we are to weigh the factors and come to a decision about what they think is best for him.

After all he's been through, and what a great guy--and great Husky--he seems to be, it just sticks in my craw to see so many people question his judgment for deciding to transfer; while so many others claim he had no choice and was shown the door; while still others question the wisdom of every single team that has been mentioned as a potential landing place for him. It's exhausting.

I just want the kid to do what makes him happy.
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Agree, and a wild Chief speak guess, AG ending up at WSU wasn’t something Hurley wasn’t involved in. Both with AG and with Marshall.
 
I hope they give AG some shooters. I think he'll do well at WSU and I'll certainly root for them next year. Oddly enough I used to root for them before they were in the AAC, I would like to see them continue to make the tournament. I've always enjoyed their style of play. I feel like it's ok to say that now. I certainly like them more than Cincinnati and Memphis.
 
Burnsbros23 said:
Marshall has a reputation for being a bit over the top with his players. Verbally. Don’t think that fits with Alterique.
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I know Calhoun liked Al and Al liked him, so maybe somehow it might work? But, Al didn’t have to play for Jim nor did Jim have to coach Al.
 
bfs3 said:
I hope they give AG some shooters. I think he'll do well at WSU and I'll certainly root for them next year. Oddly enough I used to root for them before they were in the AAC, I would like to see them continue to make the tournament. I've always enjoyed their style of play. I feel like it's ok to say that now. I certainly like them more than Cincinnati and Memphis.
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From an X and O perspective, Marshall is a great coach. Chief enjoys watching WSU run his stuff.
 
Chief00 said:
Yeah, a non coach shouldn’t brag about bringing someone to UConn. That shows a lack of understanding about the NCAA rules. There are reasons for vagueness. It serves us well.
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He is bragging because it total bs. He bragged a lot but was wrong most of the time. He wanted to be recognized as an insider for some reason
 
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Re Oz I never got sense it was bag thing - just a guy that went to UConn & loved his school. I think he coaches some so he would be at events and had some connections to Rique. Let’s not assume it was nefarious. Oz bleeds blue although I know Ollie thing is tough like so many former Huskies.
Glad this staff doesn’t need help is the main thing to be happy about!
 
WSU fan here.

Tyson Etienne is all in for next year and he's a shooter/maker. Around 40% from 3. Two players who transferred wanted to be "the guy". If Etienne was actually going to be "the guy" if he had his hands on the ball, that might explain why we had a lot of guards (no longer on the roster) whose first thought was to get a shot off if they got their hands on the ball.

To give some perspective, in one close game where the Shox were trying to hold on to a lead late in the game, Stevenson shot every time he got his hands on the ball in the last 3 minutes. He never made a pass. No one else took a shot in the last 3 minutes. Stevenson made 0 shots in those 3 minutes. Marshall had several "hero ball" conversations with the team.

Stevenson's game went completely off the rails after his antics in your gym. I'm confident he got an ass-chewing for disrespecting an opponent's fans and gym. He went into a major pout and had incredibly bad body language for weeks.

Dexter Dennis was a good shooter his Fr year, but struggled this year. If that was due to the locker room issues and he returns to form, he can hit from deep. Trey wade is "adequate" at 32% as a PF.

Then we have a mystery man. 6'10" Fr who took a redshirt due to being raw and some injuries. He can shoot 3's. He's shown a crossover going to a step-back 3 that he can hit. The question is whether he actually "knows" how to play ball at the level needed.

We had two perimeter guys with daddy issues. One of the daddys was in regular contact with Marshall providing guidance on how to best use his son. The other daddy was on social media going on and on about how Marshall was mistreating his son.

Too many players stacked in the same positions in classes too close together and too many players who were the self-appointed go to guy caused some locker room factions. It's pretty easy to see which players were in which factions.
 
rip7774 said:
Re Oz I never got sense it was bag thing - just a guy that went to UConn & loved his school. I think he coaches some so he would be at events and had some connections to Rique. Let’s not assume it was nefarious. Oz bleeds blue although I know Ollie thing is tough like so many former Huskies.
Glad this staff doesn’t need help is the main thing to be happy about!
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Unfortunately, OZ aligned with KO at the expense of anything else and that train went off the tracks. He did not appear to have any core principles of his own as far as UConn was concerned.
 
Chief00 said:
Unfortunately, OZ aligned with KO at the expense of anything else and that train went off the tracks. He did not appear to have any core principles of his own as far as UConn was concerned.
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KO or OZ?
 
Aargh said:
WSU fan here.

Tyson Etienne is all in for next year and he's a shooter/maker. Around 40% from 3. Two players who transferred wanted to be "the guy". If Etienne was actually going to be "the guy" if he had his hands on the ball, that might explain why we had a lot of guards (no longer on the roster) whose first thought was to get a shot off if they got their hands on the ball.

To give some perspective, in one close game where the Shox were trying to hold on to a lead late in the game, Stevenson shot every time he got his hands on the ball in the last 3 minutes. He never made a pass. No one else took a shot in the last 3 minutes. Stevenson made 0 shots in those 3 minutes. Marshall had several "hero ball" conversations with the team.

Stevenson's game went completely off the rails after his antics in your gym. I'm confident he got an ass-chewing for disrespecting an opponent's fans and gym. He went into a major pout and had incredibly bad body language for weeks.

Dexter Dennis was a good shooter his Fr year, but struggled this year. If that was due to the locker room issues and he returns to form, he can hit from deep. Trey wade is "adequate" at 32% as a PF.

Then we have a mystery man. 6'10" Fr who took a redshirt due to being raw and some injuries. He can shoot 3's. He's shown a crossover going to a step-back 3 that he can hit. The question is whether he actually "knows" how to play ball at the level needed.

We had two perimeter guys with daddy issues. One of the daddys was in regular contact with Marshall providing guidance on how to best use his son. The other daddy was on social media going on and on about how Marshall was mistreating his son.

Too many players stacked in the same positions in classes too close together and too many players who were the self-appointed go to guy caused some locker room factions. It's pretty easy to see which players were in which factions.
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Thank you.
 
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Aargh said:
WSU fan here.

Tyson Etienne is all in for next year and he's a shooter/maker. Around 40% from 3. Two players who transferred wanted to be "the guy". If Etienne was actually going to be "the guy" if he had his hands on the ball, that might explain why we had a lot of guards (no longer on the roster) whose first thought was to get a shot off if they got their hands on the ball.

To give some perspective, in one close game where the Shox were trying to hold on to a lead late in the game, Stevenson shot every time he got his hands on the ball in the last 3 minutes. He never made a pass. No one else took a shot in the last 3 minutes. Stevenson made 0 shots in those 3 minutes. Marshall had several "hero ball" conversations with the team.

Stevenson's game went completely off the rails after his antics in your gym. I'm confident he got an ass-chewing for disrespecting an opponent's fans and gym. He went into a major pout and had incredibly bad body language for weeks.

Dexter Dennis was a good shooter his Fr year, but struggled this year. If that was due to the locker room issues and he returns to form, he can hit from deep. Trey wade is "adequate" at 32% as a PF.

Then we have a mystery man. 6'10" Fr who took a redshirt due to being raw and some injuries. He can shoot 3's. He's shown a crossover going to a step-back 3 that he can hit. The question is whether he actually "knows" how to play ball at the level needed.

We had two perimeter guys with daddy issues. One of the daddys was in regular contact with Marshall providing guidance on how to best use his son. The other daddy was on social media going on and on about how Marshall was mistreating his son.

Too many players stacked in the same positions in classes too close together and too many players who were the self-appointed go to guy caused some locker room factions. It's pretty easy to see which players were in which factions.
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If you went on Stevenson’s Instagram live feed after the Hartford game he was running his mouth about UConn, the fans, the city, and how he was THE guy for the Shockers.

Toxic behavior!
 
CTBasketball said:
If you went on Stevenson’s Instagram live feed after the Hartford game he was running his mouth about UConn, the fans, the city, and how he was THE guy for the Shockers.

Toxic behavior!
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Stevenson really came off as a jerk after that game. Seemed to be in total contrast to how respectful Marshall was after the game in the press conference, etc.

I really, really wanted UConn to stomp WSU in the AAC tournament. Would have been great revenge for that heartbreaker. I'm sure the team would have been fired up for it.

That said, I will have absolutely no issues rooting for Wichita next year if AG goes there.
 
CTBasketball said:
If you went on Stevenson’s Instagram live feed after the Hartford game he was running his mouth about UConn, the fans, the city, and how he was THE guy for the Shockers.

Toxic behavior!
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Happen to have a link to this or does Instagram live mean it’s only live? Serious question.
 
bfs3 said:
Happen to have a link to this or does Instagram live mean it’s only live? Serious question.
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It was live and viewable up to 24 hours after he posted it back in January. It’s since deleted.
 
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